Blank message when editing a feature

[karthur1]

When I try to edit a feature, I get the attached blank message. I don't know what to make of the message, but I can't continue with the edits unless this is cleared.

R2008, sp1

[Anonymous]

Never seen this before.... I would reboot the computer.

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wrote in message news:5692931@discussion.autodesk.com...
When I try to edit a feature, I get the attached blank message. I don't
know what to make of the message, but I can't continue with the edits unless
this is cleared.

R2008, sp1

[karthur1]

How about a different computer? I first saw this on my home puter. Brought this with me to work and I see the same thing here.

Here is the part. Try to edit the "Extrusion2" in 203-14.ipt.

[Anonymous]

Interesting, I get the same blank box. I'll look at the problem more closely

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wrote in message news:5692938@discussion.autodesk.com...
How about a different computer? I first saw this on my home puter. Brought
this with me to work and I see the same thing here.

Here is the part. Try to edit the "Extrusion2" in 203-14.ipt.

[JDMather]

I deleted your features and tried to create a new Extruded feature. It defaulted to Surface. I changed to Solid and it selected the loop but then it returns error that it is not closed.
Went back to the original from which it was derived and it extruded OK. Something going on here but not sure what.

[Anonymous]

The sketch for this extrusion is in your derived part 203--01. Is that what
you intended? In 213-14, I can edit the other features, and create new ones.



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wrote in message news:5692938@discussion.autodesk.com...
How about a different computer? I first saw this on my home puter. Brought
this with me to work and I see the same thing here.

Here is the part. Try to edit the "Extrusion2" in 203-14.ipt.

[karthur1]

That was my intent.

[Anonymous]

Try placing a workpoint at that location in the layout, then create the
sketch in the part file, anchored to the workpoint

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wrote in message news:5693021@discussion.autodesk.com...
That was my intent.

[JDMather]

Shouldn't be necessary. I can create a new derived part from the sketch with no trouble. I use this technique all the time and never saw this problem before. Although I usually change my derived sketches to construction and sketch my own close boundary overtop the derived or projected geometry.

[Anonymous]

That might be the difference we see.....

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wrote in message news:5693158@discussion.autodesk.com...
Shouldn't be necessary. I can create a new derived part from the sketch
with no trouble. I use this technique all the time and never saw this
problem before. Although I usually change my derived sketches to
construction and sketch my own close boundary overtop the derived or
projected geometry.

[Anonymous]

If I delete his part features, then create a workplane from the two vertical
edges, use that WP as the sketch plane, I can create the extrude feature
correctly. See attached...

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Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
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Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185, 2GB RAM
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wrote in message news:5693158@discussion.autodesk.com...
Shouldn't be necessary. I can create a new derived part from the sketch
with no trouble. I use this technique all the time and never saw this
problem before. Although I usually change my derived sketches to
construction and sketch my own close boundary overtop the derived or
projected geometry.

[Anonymous]

Here's another way to do it...... see attached.

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"Dennis Jeffrey" wrote in message
news:5693189@discussion.autodesk.com...
If I delete his part features, then create a workplane from the two vertical
edges, use that WP as the sketch plane, I can create the extrude feature
correctly. See attached...

--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
260-399-6615
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
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HP zv5000 AMD64 ( modified)
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185, 2GB RAM
XP Pro SP2, Windows Classic Theme


wrote in message news:5693158@discussion.autodesk.com...
Shouldn't be necessary. I can create a new derived part from the sketch
with no trouble. I use this technique all the time and never saw this
problem before. Although I usually change my derived sketches to
construction and sketch my own close boundary overtop the derived or
projected geometry.

[karthur1]

I don't think there is an issue with either of the two parts.... if there is, Inventor would let us know. If there was something sick in the derived part, I would have fixed it and never wasted anyone elses time. But that is not the case.

The issue is that Inventor is confused and for some reason it throws up an error without ANY explanation.

This is similar to the "RED CROSS" issue on migrated assemblies that did not show any explanation.

[Shiva_Sundaram]

Hi,

The problem seems to be inside the Derived Part's sketch "End Guard Mounting". If you diagnose the sketch using Sketch doctor it will complain about overlapping curves. The overlapping curves is a problem and should be rectified. Perhaps you can delete the line (as indicated in picture) and update both the components and then try editing Extrusion2. That should work.

In anycase, Inventor should not be throwing up blank messages and should properly alert the user of bad loops in sketch.

I have logged a defect against the blank message: #965582.

Thanks
-Shiva Sundaram
Inventor Development

[karthur1]

Thanks...

This was fixed in R2009. Message was edited by: karthur