Black IDW dimensions turn to "color 250" when converted to DWG?

[Anonymous]

Is there a way to have black dims in my IDW stay black (i.e. white) when
converting to DWG?

Thanks,

Brad

[Anonymous]

No.
You have to "wash" everything in ACAD, part of this can be done via
list/scriptpro/macro.
It's a shame that that the dwg compatibility is that poor in IV.

Regards,
--
Leo Laimer
Maschinen- und Fertigungstechnik
A-4820 Bad Ischl - Austria


"Bradley Bruns" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Is there a way to have black dims in my IDW stay black (i.e. white) when
> converting to DWG?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brad
>
>

[Anonymous]

This has been a major gripe of mine since day one. With Inventor being an
Autodesk product and all the hype about .dwg compatibility you would think
it would be alot better.

"Leo Laimer" wrote in message
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> No.
> You have to "wash" everything in ACAD, part of this can be done via
> list/scriptpro/macro.
> It's a shame that that the dwg compatibility is that poor in IV.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Leo Laimer
> Maschinen- und Fertigungstechnik
> A-4820 Bad Ischl - Austria
>
>
> "Bradley Bruns" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:D206BFD653B456A93885CD3F62E03D90@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Is there a way to have black dims in my IDW stay black (i.e. white) when
> > converting to DWG?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

Today is the first time I've had to translate to dwg.

I have to say, as much as I really like Inventor, this translation is
PATHETIC.

I'd bet 80% of the Inventor sales are based on the assumption that since
they are both Autodesk products, the conversion to ACAD would be
fabulous. If Autodesk wanted to kill IV sales, all they have to do is
list the steps required to make a passable ACAD drawing in their
literature and watch their sales prospects run for the exits.

Richard

[Anonymous]

Another killer is importing a Mechanical Desktop file into Inventor. You
have to go through and redimension quite a bit. It will live out equal
constraints and you have to redimension all your hole placements. This is
another big selling point for Inventor.

"Richard Hintehoeller" wrote in message
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> Today is the first time I've had to translate to dwg.
>
> I have to say, as much as I really like Inventor, this translation is
> PATHETIC.
>
> I'd bet 80% of the Inventor sales are based on the assumption that since
> they are both Autodesk products, the conversion to ACAD would be
> fabulous. If Autodesk wanted to kill IV sales, all they have to do is
> list the steps required to make a passable ACAD drawing in their
> literature and watch their sales prospects run for the exits.
>
> Richard
>

[Anonymous]

OK folks, I have a confession to make. When I said the translation from
IV to ACAD was pathetic, the comment was based on IV5.3.

While browsing the web today, I saw an article about how IV6 has
improved the translation. Fully prepared to eat crow on the issue, I
decided to try a translation in IV6.

So I tried it. It now requires even more steps to make a usable drawing
than it used to! I now have to worm my way through groups and I have to
re-define the title block to get some semblance of a usable drawing file.

Why? One word - ByLayer. If, instead of hard coding that the colour be
black (assuming a white background), it would be ByLayer, most of my,
and I hope I speak for many of us, problems would be gone.

I know that later versions of AutoCAD have introduced the concept of
line weight, but that's not practical for everyone. For example, I'm
currently working with a company that is using an old pen plotter.
Their only way of controlling line weights is by assigning colours to pens.

Now, and I address this to the IV developers, imagine the steps one has
to go through to explode every group and redefine every block just
because a colour is assigned to every entity, instead of following
standard ACAD practice of assigning ByLayer.

Please, I'll bet that modifying one line of code, you could save us from
eternal purgatory.

Richard

[Anonymous]

Have you had time to explore the functionality of exploding your dimensions
during conversion?

I use the dwg standards layer translator to convert layers. It forces color
and linetype bylayer. Then just select everything on screen, and change
the lineweight to , while everything is still selected, I run the
express tool: Express>Modify>delete duplicate objects. (overkill at the
command prompt)

That should get you going in the right direction. Still alot of steps, but
once you get on to it you can make some pretty useable dwgs.

--
Cory McConnell
BJ Pipeline Inspection
"Richard Hintehoeller" wrote in message
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> OK folks, I have a confession to make. When I said the translation from
> IV to ACAD was pathetic, the comment was based on IV5.3.
>
> While browsing the web today, I saw an article about how IV6 has
> improved the translation. Fully prepared to eat crow on the issue, I
> decided to try a translation in IV6.
>
> So I tried it. It now requires even more steps to make a usable drawing
> than it used to! I now have to worm my way through groups and I have to
> re-define the title block to get some semblance of a usable drawing file.
>
> Why? One word - ByLayer. If, instead of hard coding that the colour be
> black (assuming a white background), it would be ByLayer, most of my,
> and I hope I speak for many of us, problems would be gone.
>
> I know that later versions of AutoCAD have introduced the concept of
> line weight, but that's not practical for everyone. For example, I'm
> currently working with a company that is using an old pen plotter.
> Their only way of controlling line weights is by assigning colours to
pens.
>
> Now, and I address this to the IV developers, imagine the steps one has
> to go through to explode every group and redefine every block just
> because a colour is assigned to every entity, instead of following
> standard ACAD practice of assigning ByLayer.
>
> Please, I'll bet that modifying one line of code, you could save us from
> eternal purgatory.
>
> Richard
>

[Anonymous]

Cory:

Thanks for the suggestions. They are truly welcome during a time of
frustration.

It just blows me away that the default is to assign colours. I suppose
it's just my style, but when I managed a group of ACAD designers I'd
have them hanging by the thumbs if I ever caught them hard-assigning a
colour. It's just so much more flexible to use ByLayer.

I suppose I can't fault the developers. What they are doing may be good
practice in ACAD 2002. They just don't realize that 80-90% of the
places out there have not updated their practices since ACAD 10. Go to
the ACAD newsgroup and suggest paperspace and watch the reaction.
Suggest using a white background and you'll be banished.

Richard

[Anonymous]

It is interesting that many designers are loathe to use paper space. I
always thought it was much easier/faster than using model space, but what do
I know.
~Larry

"Richard Hintehoeller" wrote in message
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> Cory:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. They are truly welcome during a time of
> frustration.
>
> It just blows me away that the default is to assign colours. I suppose
> it's just my style, but when I managed a group of ACAD designers I'd
> have them hanging by the thumbs if I ever caught them hard-assigning a
> colour. It's just so much more flexible to use ByLayer.
>
> I suppose I can't fault the developers. What they are doing may be good
> practice in ACAD 2002. They just don't realize that 80-90% of the
> places out there have not updated their practices since ACAD 10. Go to
> the ACAD newsgroup and suggest paperspace and watch the reaction.
> Suggest using a white background and you'll be banished.
>
> Richard
>

[Anonymous]

Larry:

I'm with you all the way. Paper space was a very sensible addition, but
then I also bucked the trend and switched to a white background because
my colour choices were good when I imported the drawings into other
software such as Word.

If I were using ACAD to any extent today, no doubt I'd be using
linewidths as exported by IV. Unfortunately, that and $1.25 will get
you a cup of coffee with my clients and they're the ones paying the bills.

Richard

[Anonymous]

Famous last words "... why is there no border and titleblock!".
~Larry


"Richard Hinterhoeller" wrote in message
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> Larry:
>
> I'm with you all the way. Paper space was a very sensible addition, but
> then I also bucked the trend and switched to a white background because
> my colour choices were good when I imported the drawings into other
> software such as Word.
>
> If I were using ACAD to any extent today, no doubt I'd be using
> linewidths as exported by IV. Unfortunately, that and $1.25 will get
> you a cup of coffee with my clients and they're the ones paying the bills.
>
> Richard
>