Bend angles in IDW

[Anonymous]

When I put a flat pattern on a drawing (idw), I attach a leader with some
text like "Bend 27° up". I have measured the bend angle to 27° in the part
environment. This leader will of course not update if I change the part.

I have been looking for a "Bend Notes" command - similar to the "Holes /
Thread Notes" command...



Is it possible to get the bend angle?



Poul Skadborg

[Anonymous]

One way to have an updating bend angle in your note is to insert a Model or
User Parameter as part of the note text.

Allen


"Poul Skadborg" wrote in message
news:5066812@discussion.autodesk.com...
When I put a flat pattern on a drawing (idw), I attach a leader with some
text like "Bend 27° up". I have measured the bend angle to 27° in the part
environment. This leader will of course not update if I change the part.

I have been looking for a "Bend Notes" command - similar to the "Holes /
Thread Notes" command...



Is it possible to get the bend angle?



Poul Skadborg

[Anonymous]

I know this has been requested, but there is no way of doing it right now.

Troy

Poul Skadborg wrote:
> When I put a flat pattern on a drawing (idw), I attach a leader with some
> text like "Bend 27° up". I have measured the bend angle to 27° in the part
> environment. This leader will of course not update if I change the part.
>
> I have been looking for a "Bend Notes" command - similar to the "Holes /
> Thread Notes" command...
>
>
>
> Is it possible to get the bend angle?
>
>
>
> Poul Skadborg

[Anonymous]

I was going to say "easy automatic" way of doing this, but as Allen has
mentioned it can be done, just requires a little workaround.

Troy

Troy Grose
> I know this has been requested, but there is no way of doing it right now.
>
> Troy
>
> Poul Skadborg wrote:
>> When I put a flat pattern on a drawing (idw), I attach a leader with some
>> text like "Bend 27° up". I have measured the bend angle to 27° in the part
>> environment. This leader will of course not update if I change the part.
>>
>> I have been looking for a "Bend Notes" command - similar to the "Holes /
>> Thread Notes" command...
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it possible to get the bend angle?
>>
>>
>>
>> Poul Skadborg

[Anonymous]

We are aware of the desirability of a new annotation type for bends.

When this is implemented I would expect it to work much the same way as hole
notes and be fully associative.

--
Steven Dennis
Software Engineer - Tech Lead
Autodesk Inventor Drawing Manager
MSD

"Troy Grose >" <"mount_mordor ATbITTmEsPAM Hotmail DOT com">
wrote in message news:5066879@discussion.autodesk.com...
I was going to say "easy automatic" way of doing this, but as Allen has
mentioned it can be done, just requires a little workaround.

Troy

Troy Grose
> I know this has been requested, but there is no way of doing it right now.
>
> Troy
>
> Poul Skadborg wrote:
>> When I put a flat pattern on a drawing (idw), I attach a leader with some
>> text like "Bend 27° up". I have measured the bend angle to 27° in the
>> part
>> environment. This leader will of course not update if I change the part.
>>
>> I have been looking for a "Bend Notes" command - similar to the "Holes /
>> Thread Notes" command...
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it possible to get the bend angle?
>>
>>
>>
>> Poul Skadborg

[Anonymous]

Inserting Model or User Parameters in a note just moves the problem from the
idw to the part.
If the bends are made with the Flange command then the angle is a known
input. But if it is made by creating faces on a lofted, sloped, part, then
the angle is unknown to the designer.
You could say that the bend angle is an output from the design i stead of an
input.

As I read the answer from Steve Dennis (Autodesk) I just have to wait for a
new version.

Thanks for input!
Poul Skadborg

[Anonymous]

A couple of years back we used this trick.

1) Create an dummy part with an undercontraint sketch of a triangle. Create
a driven dimension which indicates the angel. Check this dimension for
export.
2) Insert this part into your assembly, make it adaptive and constrain it to
your "fold". Make sure that the dummy-part is correctly orientated.
3) Inside your IDW: Use a leader to extract the value of the driven angel
dimension of your dummy-part.

Voila!

--
T. Ham
Mechanical Engineer
CDS Engineering BV

Dual Pentium XEON 2.2 Ghz
2 GB SDRAM
NVIDIA QUADRO4 700 XGL (Driver = 77.18)
18 GB SEAGATE SCSI Hard Disc
3Com Gigabit NIC

Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 9 SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 10 SP3a
--

"Steve Dennis (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:5067167@discussion.autodesk.com...
We are aware of the desirability of a new annotation type for bends.

When this is implemented I would expect it to work much the same way as hole
notes and be fully associative.

--
Steven Dennis
Software Engineer - Tech Lead
Autodesk Inventor Drawing Manager
MSD

"Troy Grose >" <"mount_mordor ATbITTmEsPAM Hotmail DOT com">
wrote in message news:5066879@discussion.autodesk.com...
I was going to say "easy automatic" way of doing this, but as Allen has
mentioned it can be done, just requires a little workaround.

Troy

Troy Grose
> I know this has been requested, but there is no way of doing it right now.
>
> Troy
>
> Poul Skadborg wrote:
>> When I put a flat pattern on a drawing (idw), I attach a leader with some
>> text like "Bend 27° up". I have measured the bend angle to 27° in the
>> part
>> environment. This leader will of course not update if I change the part.
>>
>> I have been looking for a "Bend Notes" command - similar to the "Holes /
>> Thread Notes" command...
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it possible to get the bend angle?
>>
>>
>>
>> Poul Skadborg

[Anonymous]

Read my reply to Troy, that should get you started...

--
T. Ham
Mechanical Engineer
CDS Engineering BV

Dual Pentium XEON 2.2 Ghz
2 GB SDRAM
NVIDIA QUADRO4 700 XGL (Driver = 77.18)
18 GB SEAGATE SCSI Hard Disc
3Com Gigabit NIC

Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 9 SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 10 SP3a
--

"Poul Skadborg" wrote in message
news:5067883@discussion.autodesk.com...
Inserting Model or User Parameters in a note just moves the problem from the
idw to the part.
If the bends are made with the Flange command then the angle is a known
input. But if it is made by creating faces on a lofted, sloped, part, then
the angle is unknown to the designer.
You could say that the bend angle is an output from the design i stead of an
input.

As I read the answer from Steve Dennis (Autodesk) I just have to wait for a
new version.

Thanks for input!
Poul Skadborg