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msklein
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Re: Balloon quanity question...

06-05-2012 08:27 AM in reply to: 34mark713

 Do it this way text is not attached to Balloon, try this instead us leader text attach arrow to far side of balloon, keep leader completely inside of balloon. Add desired text, next edit arrow type to none then text is at least attached to the associated item number always.

MSK

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Standing1
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Message 12 of 20 (283 Views)

Re: Balloon quanity question...

06-05-2012 08:42 AM in reply to: joncdem
joncdem,
Could you please explain your steps and what the results were?
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harco
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Message 13 of 20 (269 Views)

Re: Balloon quanity question...

06-06-2012 11:06 AM in reply to: msklein

Sorry to jump in but as I originally suggested the workaround and you mentioned it didn't work I was concerned that I had given poor advice or that Inventor had been rewritten to remove the ability.

 

I tried it again in Inv 2011 and still works as I hoped.

Joncdem seems to be happy it works in Inv 2013.

 

I'll have a stab at where it might be falling down with you.

 

1. Copy standard balloon style with 2 properties, item & qty.
2. New balloon style only has qty property. ( make sure the item property is removed to leave only qty)
3. Place balloon, set to new balloon style.
4. Edit balloon, edit override to your qty. (make sure it is only override cell that is edited, not the qty cell as this will be reflected in the part list)
5. Now set balloon back to standard style.

 

Steps 2 and 3 are possible problem areas.

If it still doesn't work come back and we'll try to find out why.

 

mskleins leader text is another good way to keep things sticking to balloons.

Always keep in mind that neither solution is going to update with any bom so the leader text might be handy and more noticeable that there is an override you need to look out for.

 

Hope this helps.

 

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Standing1
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Message 14 of 20 (263 Views)

Re: Balloon quanity question...

06-06-2012 11:33 AM in reply to: harco

 harco,

Thank you for explaining this very well. Your idea and method works great.

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swallowsc
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Re: Balloon quanity question...

08-22-2012 12:12 PM in reply to: 34mark713
Here's my solution to the fix. Unfortunately, it's the fix for a lot of other random things I can't do with this program.
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Standing1
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Message 16 of 20 (225 Views)

Re: Balloon quantity question...

08-22-2012 12:33 PM in reply to: swallowsc
swallowsc,
What you are doing with the 1X is what we used to do for quantity. Until we started using harco's idea. The problem we found with the 1X is that if you add a part to an assembly or moved the view the 1X did not line up with the balloon.
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swallowsc
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Message 17 of 20 (217 Views)

Re: Balloon quantity question...

08-22-2012 12:54 PM in reply to: msklein

Yes, his idea did work.  But it's so labor extensive if you have to do it multiple times. My smart-**** remark makes awareness that this should be an out of the box solution like any other CAD program.  Problem I run into A LOT with this software.

 

The text will follow the balloon because it's a feature in SolidWorks.  Don't know if you got the program I was showing in the picture.  It's kind of a common sense feature that people are going to put a qty...ref...ect....by the balloons. Why would you even want to put a total qty by every balloon if you already have it in the BOM anyway?  Espically when you have to reference back to see the item number.

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swallowsc
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Message 18 of 20 (186 Views)

Re: Balloon quantity question...

08-27-2012 11:08 AM in reply to: Standing1

Standing1,

 

Other than my smart **** solution to the problem...this is my best workaround.  This applies if you are entering a "hand-jammed" entry text to follow the balloon.

 

  1. Create a sketch symbol with just text.  You can make the text a specific entry if it will be redundant such as REF or specify it as a prompted entry option if you are throwing in random qty's.
  2. Insert the sketch symbol from the Annotations>User Symbols ribbon icon.  You can't just pick it out of the folder in the feature tree because there are some options that you need to set before bringing it into your drawing.  First option in the Symbols options window you need to check leader for the symbol in the box. Then below that you will want to un-check the visible option box.
  3. Hover your cursor over the balloon.  Note it's very important you select the lines on the balloon.  You will know because you will get a particular symbol showing your leader is snapping to the balloon.

And that's it.  The sketch symbol will have a leader, but you just say to make it invisible.  So when you move the balloon the text will follow it.  Hope that helps.  It's the best workaround for me so far.

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Standing1
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Message 19 of 20 (179 Views)

Re: Balloon quantity question...

08-27-2012 11:52 AM in reply to: msklein

swallowsc,
Your method is a very good idea. We used your idea for our REF balloons. We have everyone trained in harco's method that I hate to change now. Our Engineers will change if needed, but really don't like changing much.

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Cadbear
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Message 20 of 20 (47 Views)

Re: Balloon quanity question...

06-12-2014 10:52 AM in reply to: harco
Thanks for this tip. It is much faster doing it this way rather than fiddling with the parts list. But Autodesk should have made provisions for the qty. override. Maybe next release???
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