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Autodesk Responds to R6

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DJSpaceMouse
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Autodesk Responds to R6

I have been reading messages from some disgruntled R6 users (most notably, the "Silence" thread) about Autodesk not owning up to issues with R6. Read below the email I received today from Robert "Buzz" Kross from Autodesk.





All,



I have heard a number of issues from your customers concerning Inventor 6 quality. Most of these issues have focused on drawing manager. My team has met with a key members of our technical sales team and with customers to define the scope of the problem. In response to this we are producing an Inventor 6 service pack. The service pack will be available for download on November 15. Code development work for the service pack is largely completed and it is currently under final test and being qualified for release. Over 600 customer issues spanning the entire product have been resolved. I will forward a separate detail list of fixes to MCAD TECH FAM later this week. Following is a high level summary:




Parts



Around 90 issues have been resolved that deal specifically with parts, most of the issues are priority 2 and 3. Memory leaks which lead to capacity issues have been fixed. Issues with features failing to update which are dependent on loft, thicken and delete face operations have been fixed. Some key Autodesk Shape Manager fixes have also been incorporated including fixes for specific fillet and loft crashes. A bug that limited emboss functionality has been removed.




Assemblies



In assemblies we have resolved around 80 issues, most having to do with constraints. This includes several issues with transitional constraints and adaptive assemblies. Limitations with constraining adaptive assemblies to non-adaptive assemblies have been fixed. Certain iMate fixes have been introduced. In addition, a large set of special weldment cases has been resolved. Specifically, weld symbols jumping, failing fillet welds, issues with creating welds have been fixed.




Drawings



Over 200 fixes for the service pack have been in drawings. Issues related to specific migration problems, holes and hole tables, and performance and capacity for view creation of very large assemblies have been fixed. Over 30 crashes have been fixed. Some specific issues that have been resolved include:



- Crash getting all dimensions from a derived part with a pattern.



- Crash after save when copy/paste a sheet with projected view.



- Crash when cursor crosses the section arrow during section view creation.



- Crash annotating to some legacy section views.



- Annotations do not stay attached to view geometry on assembly update.



- Weld annotations not recovered in a specific drawing view.



- Assembly demote causes part list numbering to jump.



- Drawing cannot be opened after deleting a component from .ipn’s assembly.



- Breakout view causes crosshatch to be wrong.




Other



A relatively small number of issues have been fixed in Data Exchange, Content Library, API, Sheet Metal and Surfacing.





Best Regards,



-buzz
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Message 2 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

That sounds great......but......I certainly hope
general stability, spreadsheet linking, parts list editing etc. is part of the
200+80+60 fixes that Buzz mentions.  I'm also rather surprised he didn't
mention graphic related bugs as a major point.  That seems to be a common
problem among all (well most) R6 users.

 

Nov.15th...cool!


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

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I
have been reading messages from some disgruntled R6 users (most notably, the
"Silence" thread) about Autodesk not owning up to issues with R6. Read below
the email I received today from Robert "Buzz" Kross from Autodesk.



All,

I have heard a number of issues from your customers concerning
Inventor 6 quality. Most of these issues have focused on drawing manager. My
team has met with a key members of our technical sales team and with customers
to define the scope of the problem. In response to this we are producing an
Inventor 6 service pack. The service pack will be available for download on
November 15. Code development work for the service pack is largely completed
and it is currently under final test and being qualified for release. Over 600
customer issues spanning the entire product have been resolved. I will forward
a separate detail list of fixes to MCAD TECH FAM later this week. Following is
a high level summary:


Parts

Around 90 issues have been
resolved that deal specifically with parts, most of the issues are priority 2
and 3. Memory leaks which lead to capacity issues have been fixed. Issues with
features failing to update which are dependent on loft, thicken and delete
face operations have been fixed. Some key Autodesk Shape Manager fixes have
also been incorporated including fixes for specific fillet and loft crashes. A
bug that limited emboss functionality has been removed.


Assemblies


In assemblies we have resolved around 80 issues, most having to do
with constraints. This includes several issues with transitional constraints
and adaptive assemblies. Limitations with constraining adaptive assemblies to
non-adaptive assemblies have been fixed. Certain iMate fixes have been
introduced. In addition, a large set of special weldment cases has been
resolved. Specifically, weld symbols jumping, failing fillet welds, issues
with creating welds have been fixed.


Drawings

Over 200
fixes for the service pack have been in drawings. Issues related to specific
migration problems, holes and hole tables, and performance and capacity for
view creation of very large assemblies have been fixed. Over 30 crashes have
been fixed. Some specific issues that have been resolved include:


  - Crash getting all dimensions from a derived part with a
pattern.

  - Crash after save when copy/paste a sheet with
projected view.

  - Crash when cursor crosses the section
arrow during section view creation.

  - Crash annotating to
some legacy section views.

  - Annotations do not stay
attached to view geometry on assembly update.

  - Weld
annotations not recovered in a specific drawing view.

  -
Assembly demote causes part list numbering to jump.

  -
Drawing cannot be opened after deleting a component from .ipn’s assembly.


  - Breakout view causes crosshatch to be wrong.



Other

A relatively small number of issues have been fixed
in Data Exchange, Content Library, API, Sheet Metal and Surfacing.




Best Regards,

-buzz

Message 3 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

oh and what is
size=3>"MCAD TECH FAM"   ?


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

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That sounds great......but......I certainly hope
general stability, spreadsheet linking, parts list editing etc. is part of the
200+80+60 fixes that Buzz mentions.  I'm also rather surprised he didn't
mention graphic related bugs as a major point.  That seems to be a common
problem among all (well most) R6 users.

 

Nov.15th...cool!


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

remove all #s from
email
-----------------------------------------


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I
have been reading messages from some disgruntled R6 users (most notably, the
"Silence" thread) about Autodesk not owning up to issues with R6. Read below
the email I received today from Robert "Buzz" Kross from Autodesk.



All,

I have heard a number of issues from your customers
concerning Inventor 6 quality. Most of these issues have focused on drawing
manager. My team has met with a key members of our technical sales team and
with customers to define the scope of the problem. In response to this we
are producing an Inventor 6 service pack. The service pack will be available
for download on November 15. Code development work for the service pack is
largely completed and it is currently under final test and being qualified
for release. Over 600 customer issues spanning the entire product have been
resolved. I will forward a separate detail list of fixes to MCAD TECH FAM
later this week. Following is a high level summary:


Parts


Around 90 issues have been resolved that deal specifically with
parts, most of the issues are priority 2 and 3. Memory leaks which lead to
capacity issues have been fixed. Issues with features failing to update
which are dependent on loft, thicken and delete face operations have been
fixed. Some key Autodesk Shape Manager fixes have also been incorporated
including fixes for specific fillet and loft crashes. A bug that limited
emboss functionality has been removed.


Assemblies

In
assemblies we have resolved around 80 issues, most having to do with
constraints. This includes several issues with transitional constraints and
adaptive assemblies. Limitations with constraining adaptive assemblies to
non-adaptive assemblies have been fixed. Certain iMate fixes have been
introduced. In addition, a large set of special weldment cases has been
resolved. Specifically, weld symbols jumping, failing fillet welds, issues
with creating welds have been fixed.


Drawings

Over 200
fixes for the service pack have been in drawings. Issues related to specific
migration problems, holes and hole tables, and performance and capacity for
view creation of very large assemblies have been fixed. Over 30 crashes have
been fixed. Some specific issues that have been resolved include:


  - Crash getting all dimensions from a derived part with
a pattern.

  - Crash after save when copy/paste a sheet
with projected view.

  - Crash when cursor crosses the
section arrow during section view creation.

  - Crash
annotating to some legacy section views.

  - Annotations
do not stay attached to view geometry on assembly update.


  - Weld annotations not recovered in a specific drawing
view.

  - Assembly demote causes part list numbering to
jump.

  - Drawing cannot be opened after deleting a
component from .ipn’s assembly.

  - Breakout view causes
crosshatch to be wrong.


Other

A relatively small number
of issues have been fixed in Data Exchange, Content Library, API, Sheet
Metal and Surfacing.



Best Regards,

-buzz

Message 4 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

Great. I can be patient for 15 days...


--
Mark A. Bystry
Engineer
Ziggity Systems, Inc.

href="mailto:mbystry@ziggity.com">mbystry@ziggity.com


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Message 5 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

I was with an Autodesk rep Yesterday (UK), and he
also confirmed Nov 15th.

 

Jon Kay
Message 6 of 30
cadsysmgr
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

Not trying to be too over critical here, I assume Robert gave you the okay to post his E-mails....
Message 7 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

The issues you listed above are probably what he referred to as "memory leaks". Mike
Message 8 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

you are probably correct...


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

remove all #s from
email
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The
issues you listed above are probably what he referred to as "memory leaks".
Mike
Message 9 of 30
jmartzig
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

my first thought was...how could they put a release date on a patch? shouldn't it be released when the major bugs are fixed, instead of saying, "whatever is fixed by nov 15th is when this SP will be released." ??? -Joe
Message 10 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

My memory is leaking too!  They say that's the
second thing to go when you get older - I forgot the first thing! (LOL - groan -
old joke - had to get it in!  Sorry!!)

 

Mark


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The
issues you listed above are probably what he referred to as "memory leaks".
Mike
Message 11 of 30
DJSpaceMouse
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

No... the message said that the service pack is basically done already and is "currently under final test and being qualified for release." It looks probable that we, as an Autodesk ASC, will receive SP1 on CD before it is available for download.
Message 12 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

Think he said the code is pretty-much done and
their testing it, right? I'd say that might mean that they'll be testing it
until then unless they find a major problem, in which case, the date could slip.
That's the reason they don't reveal target dates; like everyone else I know,
their crystal balls are probably filled with smoke or maybe other
unmentionables similar to what seem to be in mine.

~Larry

 


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my
first thought was...how could they put a release date on a patch? shouldn't it
be released when the major bugs are fixed, instead of saying, "whatever is
fixed by nov 15th is when this SP will be released." ???
-Joe
Message 13 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

Is it just a coincidence or has Autodesk planned
the SP release on the same day as the second Harry Potter move is
released

Sincerely,

Voldemor

I'm ready with the unforgivable
size=2>Cruciatus Curse


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I
have been reading messages from some disgruntled R6 users (most notably, the
"Silence" thread) about Autodesk not owning up to issues with R6. Read below
the email I received today from Robert "Buzz" Kross from Autodesk.



All,

I have heard a number of issues from your customers concerning
Inventor 6 quality. Most of these issues have focused on drawing manager. My
team has met with a key members of our technical sales team and with customers
to define the scope of the problem. In response to this we are producing an
Inventor 6 service pack. The service pack will be available for download on
November 15. Code development work for the service pack is largely completed
and it is currently under final test and being qualified for release. Over 600
customer issues spanning the entire product have been resolved. I will forward
a separate detail list of fixes to MCAD TECH FAM later this week. Following is
a high level summary:


Parts

Around 90 issues have been
resolved that deal specifically with parts, most of the issues are priority 2
and 3. Memory leaks which lead to capacity issues have been fixed. Issues with
features failing to update which are dependent on loft, thicken and delete
face operations have been fixed. Some key Autodesk Shape Manager fixes have
also been incorporated including fixes for specific fillet and loft crashes. A
bug that limited emboss functionality has been removed.


Assemblies


In assemblies we have resolved around 80 issues, most having to do
with constraints. This includes several issues with transitional constraints
and adaptive assemblies. Limitations with constraining adaptive assemblies to
non-adaptive assemblies have been fixed. Certain iMate fixes have been
introduced. In addition, a large set of special weldment cases has been
resolved. Specifically, weld symbols jumping, failing fillet welds, issues
with creating welds have been fixed.


Drawings

Over 200
fixes for the service pack have been in drawings. Issues related to specific
migration problems, holes and hole tables, and performance and capacity for
view creation of very large assemblies have been fixed. Over 30 crashes have
been fixed. Some specific issues that have been resolved include:


  - Crash getting all dimensions from a derived part with a
pattern.

  - Crash after save when copy/paste a sheet with
projected view.

  - Crash when cursor crosses the section
arrow during section view creation.

  - Crash annotating to
some legacy section views.

  - Annotations do not stay
attached to view geometry on assembly update.

  - Weld
annotations not recovered in a specific drawing view.

  -
Assembly demote causes part list numbering to jump.

  -
Drawing cannot be opened after deleting a component from .ipn’s assembly.


  - Breakout view causes crosshatch to be wrong.



Other

A relatively small number of issues have been fixed
in Data Exchange, Content Library, API, Sheet Metal and Surfacing.




Best Regards,

-buzz

Message 14 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

dude...i was thinking the same thing...weird, ain't
it.


--
Mark A. Bystry
Engineer
Ziggity Systems, Inc.

href="mailto:mbystry@ziggity.com">mbystry@ziggity.com


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Message 15 of 30
jiml
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

dude buy dell
Message 16 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

It's in final QC..... this one is done....

jmartzig wrote:

> my first thought was...how could they put a release date on a patch?
> shouldn't it be released when the major bugs are fixed, instead of
> saying, "whatever is fixed by nov 15th is when this SP will be
> released." ??? -Joe

--
Dennis Jeffrey
CAD Associates - Fort Wayne
Autodesk ASC
(260-432-9695 x 221
Message 17 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

Good to hear, but I've got to wonder; how did this happen?
How many beta testers were there? A dozen?
Or, were all the issues known at shipping time?

Jeff
==================

"DJSpaceMouse" wrote in message
news:f11eaa7.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
...........
......from Robert "Buzz" Kross from Autodesk.
......
Over 600 customer issues spanning the entire product have been resolved.
......
Message 18 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

jeff,

    Remember 5.3? Most had the
SP downloaded before the box was at the door.

darvin
Message 19 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

Beta testing is a double edged sword. You never find the critical bugs
until you use it in a production environment - but - you never use beta in a
production environment because the files aren't guaranteed to work with the
released code.

"Jeff Howard" wrote in message
news:C7AEEEC1E42BF7E63F41798E53676781@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Good to hear, but I've got to wonder; how did this happen?
> How many beta testers were there? A dozen?
> Or, were all the issues known at shipping time?
>
> Jeff
> ==================
>
> "DJSpaceMouse" wrote in message
> news:f11eaa7.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> ...........
> ......from Robert "Buzz" Kross from Autodesk.
> ......
> Over 600 customer issues spanning the entire product have been resolved.
> ......
>
>
>
>
>
Message 20 of 30
Anonymous
in reply to: DJSpaceMouse

amen brother!

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
remove all #s from email
-----------------------------------------
"Ron Crain" wrote in message
news:4F12C20A1A0C7BFBB88637B68264DAEC@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Beta testing is a double edged sword. You never find the critical bugs
> until you use it in a production environment - but - you never use beta in
a
> production environment because the files aren't guaranteed to work with
the
> released code.
>
> "Jeff Howard" wrote in message
> news:C7AEEEC1E42BF7E63F41798E53676781@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Good to hear, but I've got to wonder; how did this happen?
> > How many beta testers were there? A dozen?
> > Or, were all the issues known at shipping time?
> >
> > Jeff
> > ==================
> >
> > "DJSpaceMouse" wrote in message
> > news:f11eaa7.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > ...........
> > ......from Robert "Buzz" Kross from Autodesk.
> > ......
> > Over 600 customer issues spanning the entire product have been resolved.
> > ......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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