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*Young, Darren J.
Message 1 of 10 (191 Views)

Anyone use Inventor for Architectural stuff?

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11-21-2002 07:00 AM
I'm curious if anyone here uses Inventor for things that cross over into
the Architectural fields, perhaps like structural steel, precast
concrete, arcitechtural stone, etc.

I've got a number of clients the do architectural precast concrete or
stone fabrication. While these products go on buildings and are designed
based on architectural blueprints, the end drawings are more mechanical
in nature, piece parts to fabricate stone or piece parts that forms are
fabricated from to pour the stone.

Aside from what's referd to as the shop drawing, which are usually
elevations andor pland, sections of the product in the location thay's
go on the building, the remaining drawings are all piece parts.

I've been thinking of playing around in this area a little with Inventor
to see how it works up. Modeling the pieces in 3d would be a snap,
changes resulting form field conditions or design changes could easily
be done.

Even the shop drawings (plans/elevations) I'd imagine could be done like
an assembly.

Anyone else doing anything like this that want's to share their results?

--

Darren J. Young
dyoung@mcwi.com

Autodesk Developer Network
AUGI Inventor Product Chair

Minnesota CADWorks, Inc.
PO Box 1172
Monticello, Minnesota 55362-1172
(763) 295-4433
http://www.mcwi.com
ftp://ftp.mcwi.com
*Keller, Kent
Message 2 of 10 (191 Views)

Re: Anyone use Inventor for Architectural stuff?

11-21-2002 07:13 AM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
I Know Dennis Shinn played around with Inventor for a while and he does precast stuff.
Never got a chance to talk to him much about it, and I haven't seen him on Alt.cad.AutoCAD
lately but he used to hang out there all the time. You might be able to pull up his
address from a old post or something.

--
Kent
Member of the Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program


"Darren J. Young" wrote in message
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> I'm curious if anyone here uses Inventor for things that cross over into
> the Architectural fields, perhaps like structural steel, precast
> concrete, arcitechtural stone, etc.
*Jolley, Alfred C.
Message 3 of 10 (191 Views)

Re: Anyone use Inventor for Architectural stuff?

11-21-2002 07:20 AM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
I have used Inventor in combination with AutoCAD for commercial stone
facades, precast, PGRG, GFRC, etc. The end product was always AutoCAD. As an
example I modeled a classic portico for a 40,000 spft house in inventor then
saved as dwg. Inventor was the fastest way to draw and great for
presentations to the client but I find Inventor is to cumbersome when
compiling and annotating Architectural drawing sets (including shop
drawings). Also classical stuff is spline intensive which taxes Inventor. I
would not use Inventor for flat stone work. I can create joint layouts and
piece tickets much much faster in AutoCAD.

Al Jolley
ACJ Enterprises, Inc.


"Darren J. Young" wrote in message
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> I'm curious if anyone here uses Inventor for things that cross over into
> the Architectural fields, perhaps like structural steel, precast
> concrete, arcitechtural stone, etc.
>
> I've got a number of clients the do architectural precast concrete or
> stone fabrication. While these products go on buildings and are designed
> based on architectural blueprints, the end drawings are more mechanical
> in nature, piece parts to fabricate stone or piece parts that forms are
> fabricated from to pour the stone.
>
> Aside from what's referd to as the shop drawing, which are usually
> elevations andor pland, sections of the product in the location thay's
> go on the building, the remaining drawings are all piece parts.
>
> I've been thinking of playing around in this area a little with Inventor
> to see how it works up. Modeling the pieces in 3d would be a snap,
> changes resulting form field conditions or design changes could easily
> be done.
>
> Even the shop drawings (plans/elevations) I'd imagine could be done like
> an assembly.
>
> Anyone else doing anything like this that want's to share their results?
>
> --
>
> Darren J. Young
> dyoung@mcwi.com
>
> Autodesk Developer Network
> AUGI Inventor Product Chair
>
> Minnesota CADWorks, Inc.
> PO Box 1172
> Monticello, Minnesota 55362-1172
> (763) 295-4433
> http://www.mcwi.com
> ftp://ftp.mcwi.com
*Young, Darren J.
Message 4 of 10 (191 Views)

Re:

11-21-2002 12:31 PM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
> I have used Inventor in combination with AutoCAD for commercial stone
> facades, precast, PGRG, GFRC, etc. The end product was always AutoCAD. As an
> example I modeled a classic portico for a 40,000 spft house in inventor then
> saved as dwg. Inventor was the fastest way to draw and great for
> presentations to the client but I find Inventor is to cumbersome when
> compiling and annotating Architectural drawing sets (including shop
> drawings). Also classical stuff is spline intensive which taxes Inventor. I
> would not use Inventor for flat stone work. I can create joint layouts and
> piece tickets much much faster in AutoCAD.

I guess that's nothing I ever really considered, generating a lot of the
stuff in Inventor, and exporting it to AutoCADto annotate the shop
drawings. Might work.

I don't so that much flat stone work but one of my clients does. But I
do a fair amount of arch precast, sills, caps, lintels, banding, etc. I
figured Inventor would work well for that type of work. There's only a
limited number of shapes to generate then you'd have all the template
drawings you'd need. Just modify dimensions. Perhaps iFeatures would
even work well for things like quirk miters, etc. You could even put
this stuff into iParts fairly easy. With a little programming, it could
even build all your layouts calculating the number of pieces within a
size range, etc.

Might have to look into it if I ever get any free time.

--

Darren J. Young
dyoung@mcwi.com

Autodesk Developer Network
AUGI Inventor Product Chair

Minnesota CADWorks, Inc.
PO Box 1172
Monticello, Minnesota 55362-1172
(763) 295-4433
http://www.mcwi.com
ftp://ftp.mcwi.com
*Young, Darren J.
Message 5 of 10 (191 Views)

Re:

11-21-2002 12:39 PM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
> I Know Dennis Shinn played around with Inventor for a while and he does precast stuff.
> Never got a chance to talk to him much about it, and I haven't seen him on Alt.cad.AutoCAD
> lately but he used to hang out there all the time. You might be able to pull up his
> address from a old post or something.

I didn't even think of asking him. Most of the precast he does are tilt-
up panels as well as structural steel if I recall correctly. I know he
use to have a bit of automation in AutoCAD years ago than recall he
played with MDT for a spell. I'll have to see if he's played with
Inventor at all.

I've know Dennis for about 12 years although I haven't talked with him
in a year or two. Years ago when he ran the Seattle AutoCAD Users Group
BBS, his system was part of the PCG-Net (PRofessional CAD & Graphics
Network) mail relay system. Him and a number of other folks are the ones
that got me into and taught me AutoLisp initialy when I just started out
in AutoCAD.

--

Darren J. Young
dyoung@mcwi.com

Autodesk Developer Network
AUGI Inventor Product Chair

Minnesota CADWorks, Inc.
PO Box 1172
Monticello, Minnesota 55362-1172
(763) 295-4433
http://www.mcwi.com
ftp://ftp.mcwi.com
*Keller, Kent
Message 6 of 10 (191 Views)

Re:

11-21-2002 01:15 PM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
Yup, I used to go to the SAUG when it was alive. Pretty dead out in this
neck of the woods now days for stuff like this.

I know for a fact that Dennis played with it. Don't know for how long
though, and I don't think he still is using it.

--
Kent Keller
Member of the Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program

http://www.MyMcad.com/KWiK/Mcad.htm

"Darren J. Young" wrote in message
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Years ago when he ran the Seattle AutoCAD Users Group
> BBS, his system was part of the PCG-Net (PRofessional CAD & Graphics
> Network) mail relay system.
*Frodason, Finnur P.
Message 7 of 10 (191 Views)

Re: Anyone use Inventor for Architectural stuff?

11-21-2002 03:21 PM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
Daren,
I have used IV for some architectural projects. One customer is inventing
(no pun intended) pre-cast elements -walls, floors and roof elements.
As an exercise for myself to learn IV I made a mountain cabin with every
roof rafter, window, door and each and every board of the outside cladding.
I even made corrugated iron panels for the roof. Great fun and some nice
drawings with booms and all.

Finnur

"Darren J. Young" wrote in message
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> I'm curious if anyone here uses Inventor for things that cross over into
> the Architectural fields, perhaps like structural steel, precast
> concrete, arcitechtural stone, etc.
>
> I've got a number of clients the do architectural precast concrete or
> stone fabrication. While these products go on buildings and are designed
> based on architectural blueprints, the end drawings are more mechanical
> in nature, piece parts to fabricate stone or piece parts that forms are
> fabricated from to pour the stone.
>
> Aside from what's referd to as the shop drawing, which are usually
> elevations andor pland, sections of the product in the location thay's
> go on the building, the remaining drawings are all piece parts.
>
> I've been thinking of playing around in this area a little with Inventor
> to see how it works up. Modeling the pieces in 3d would be a snap,
> changes resulting form field conditions or design changes could easily
> be done.
>
> Even the shop drawings (plans/elevations) I'd imagine could be done like
> an assembly.
>
> Anyone else doing anything like this that want's to share their results?
>
> --
>
> Darren J. Young
> dyoung@mcwi.com
>
> Autodesk Developer Network
> AUGI Inventor Product Chair
>
> Minnesota CADWorks, Inc.
> PO Box 1172
> Monticello, Minnesota 55362-1172
> (763) 295-4433
> http://www.mcwi.com
> ftp://ftp.mcwi.com
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Message 8 of 10 (191 Views)

Re: Anyone use Inventor for Architectural stuff?

11-25-2002 03:36 AM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
Pretty progressive thinking for Architects. I thought they were all fighting to get their pencil and paper back! - Rich Thomas
*Caldwell, Larry
Message 9 of 10 (191 Views)

Re:

11-25-2002 06:03 AM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
But for Architects, Engineers/Designers would
have a time keeping our computers dry! <G>

~Larry


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Pretty
progressive thinking for Architects. I thought they were all fighting to get
their pencil and paper back! - Rich Thomas
*Frodason, Finnur P.
Message 10 of 10 (191 Views)

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11-25-2002 03:33 PM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
We are progressive up here <g>.

I started out with AutoCAD 2.16 in 1985, light
years ago and I have never looked back. I look forward to every new version,
AutoCAd Designer, MDT, Inventor even an SP 0. You just try to find ways around
the "new features" (bugs) and you'll learn a lot.

A big thanks to this group.

 

Finnur


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Pretty
progressive thinking for Architects. I thought they were all fighting to get
their pencil and paper back! - Rich Thomas
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