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Anyone drawing actual thread pitches?

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Anonymous
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Anyone drawing actual thread pitches?

Hello,

We are working on a very precise assembly that we need to see actual thread
pitches on shafts and mating holes.

We have run into a problem with this. If we do 1-10 pitches of a thead
profile, IV is fine. We need to run about 400 pitches on a long rod, and we
have not been able to accomplish this, or rather, we "end task" thru windows
manager to stop IV from working. The longest we have let a machine crunch
is 50 minutes.

We have duplicated this on 2 different machines, a laptop and a desktop,
both equipped very similarly, and have had the same results, so we don't
feel it is a hardware glitch.

Has anyone else run across a similar problem, or have a solution for this?
By the way we are running IV8.

Thanks,

Bill
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Message 2 of 7
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Did you try arraying a small "easy" pitch of thread?

QBZ


"Bill Henry" wrote in message
news:62B5A77394FB37DE858B7A11F5C017C5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hello,
>
> We are working on a very precise assembly that we need to see actual
thread
> pitches on shafts and mating holes.
>
> We have run into a problem with this. If we do 1-10 pitches of a
thead
> profile, IV is fine. We need to run about 400 pitches on a long rod,
and we
> have not been able to accomplish this, or rather, we "end task" thru
windows
> manager to stop IV from working. The longest we have let a machine
crunch
> is 50 minutes.
>
> We have duplicated this on 2 different machines, a laptop and a
desktop,
> both equipped very similarly, and have had the same results, so we
don't
> feel it is a hardware glitch.
>
> Has anyone else run across a similar problem, or have a solution for
this?
> By the way we are running IV8.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
Message 3 of 7
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

We have been using the "coil" command to do this. We build the profile of
the thread, and then revolve it with the coil command. we have done bolts
as small as about an 8-32 over 1/2 inch in length (takes about a minute to
finish), and the largest, which we've never let run to completion - 3/4 Dia
Acme thread over about 24"

The steps we use are as follows:

1- create a shaft
2- build the thread profile
3- Align the shaft and thread profile properly, and apply the coil command
4- wait
5- finish or crash

In running MD in the past, I used to "work around" this by creating
"representational" threads, but I was hoping IV had enough horsepower to
give me the real thing.

Thanks again,

Bill

"Quinn Zander" wrote in message
news:514DC167B370B4B74ABB255F7221413A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Did you try arraying a small "easy" pitch of thread?
>
> QBZ
>
>
> "Bill Henry" wrote in message
> news:62B5A77394FB37DE858B7A11F5C017C5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Hello,
> >
> > We are working on a very precise assembly that we need to see actual
> thread
> > pitches on shafts and mating holes.
> >
> > We have run into a problem with this. If we do 1-10 pitches of a
> thead
> > profile, IV is fine. We need to run about 400 pitches on a long rod,
> and we
> > have not been able to accomplish this, or rather, we "end task" thru
> windows
> > manager to stop IV from working. The longest we have let a machine
> crunch
> > is 50 minutes.
> >
> > We have duplicated this on 2 different machines, a laptop and a
> desktop,
> > both equipped very similarly, and have had the same results, so we
> don't
> > feel it is a hardware glitch.
> >
> > Has anyone else run across a similar problem, or have a solution for
> this?
> > By the way we are running IV8.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
>
Message 4 of 7
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Sounds good, Bill.

Now, try a small section of thread and array it to see if you can get
something you can work with (a minute or 2 for creation)

QBZ


"Bill Henry" wrote in message
news:392F2A7AD5F15070E20E0BF98CFC9952@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We have been using the "coil" command to do this. We build the
profile of
> the thread, and then revolve it with the coil command. we have done
bolts
> as small as about an 8-32 over 1/2 inch in length (takes about a
minute to
> finish), and the largest, which we've never let run to completion -
3/4 Dia
> Acme thread over about 24"
>
> The steps we use are as follows:
>
> 1- create a shaft
> 2- build the thread profile
> 3- Align the shaft and thread profile properly, and apply the coil
command
> 4- wait
> 5- finish or crash
>
> In running MD in the past, I used to "work around" this by creating
> "representational" threads, but I was hoping IV had enough horsepower
to
> give me the real thing.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Bill
>
> "Quinn Zander" wrote in message
> news:514DC167B370B4B74ABB255F7221413A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Did you try arraying a small "easy" pitch of thread?
> >
> > QBZ
> >
> >
> > "Bill Henry" wrote in message
> > news:62B5A77394FB37DE858B7A11F5C017C5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > We are working on a very precise assembly that we need to see
actual
> > thread
> > > pitches on shafts and mating holes.
> > >
> > > We have run into a problem with this. If we do 1-10 pitches of a
> > thead
> > > profile, IV is fine. We need to run about 400 pitches on a long
rod,
> > and we
> > > have not been able to accomplish this, or rather, we "end task"
thru
> > windows
> > > manager to stop IV from working. The longest we have let a
machine
> > crunch
> > > is 50 minutes.
> > >
> > > We have duplicated this on 2 different machines, a laptop and a
> > desktop,
> > > both equipped very similarly, and have had the same results, so we
> > don't
> > > feel it is a hardware glitch.
> > >
> > > Has anyone else run across a similar problem, or have a solution
for
> > this?
> > > By the way we are running IV8.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 5 of 7
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

thanks...we'll give it a shot. In the past we have tried working our way up
to the desired thread pitches. It seems to really bog down after 100
pitches.


"Quinn Zander" wrote in message
news:AAA1A3F9E8C08B99D96AB7ED87542BE8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Sounds good, Bill.
>
> Now, try a small section of thread and array it to see if you can get
> something you can work with (a minute or 2 for creation)
>
> QBZ
>
>
> "Bill Henry" wrote in message
> news:392F2A7AD5F15070E20E0BF98CFC9952@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > We have been using the "coil" command to do this. We build the
> profile of
> > the thread, and then revolve it with the coil command. we have done
> bolts
> > as small as about an 8-32 over 1/2 inch in length (takes about a
> minute to
> > finish), and the largest, which we've never let run to completion -
> 3/4 Dia
> > Acme thread over about 24"
> >
> > The steps we use are as follows:
> >
> > 1- create a shaft
> > 2- build the thread profile
> > 3- Align the shaft and thread profile properly, and apply the coil
> command
> > 4- wait
> > 5- finish or crash
> >
> > In running MD in the past, I used to "work around" this by creating
> > "representational" threads, but I was hoping IV had enough horsepower
> to
> > give me the real thing.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > "Quinn Zander" wrote in message
> > news:514DC167B370B4B74ABB255F7221413A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Did you try arraying a small "easy" pitch of thread?
> > >
> > > QBZ
> > >
> > >
> > > "Bill Henry" wrote in message
> > > news:62B5A77394FB37DE858B7A11F5C017C5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > We are working on a very precise assembly that we need to see
> actual
> > > thread
> > > > pitches on shafts and mating holes.
> > > >
> > > > We have run into a problem with this. If we do 1-10 pitches of a
> > > thead
> > > > profile, IV is fine. We need to run about 400 pitches on a long
> rod,
> > > and we
> > > > have not been able to accomplish this, or rather, we "end task"
> thru
> > > windows
> > > > manager to stop IV from working. The longest we have let a
> machine
> > > crunch
> > > > is 50 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > We have duplicated this on 2 different machines, a laptop and a
> > > desktop,
> > > > both equipped very similarly, and have had the same results, so we
> > > don't
> > > > feel it is a hardware glitch.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone else run across a similar problem, or have a solution
> for
> > > this?
> > > > By the way we are running IV8.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 6 of 7
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Even further back circa MDT3 there was a ?14? rev limit where the helix
would wack itself.

I would think a 100 rev helix would be quite massive regardless.

QBZ


"Bill Henry" wrote in message
news:C8A27EC49DDF32DAC76355B23623059F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> thanks...we'll give it a shot. In the past we have tried working our
way up
> to the desired thread pitches. It seems to really bog down after 100
> pitches.
>
>
> "Quinn Zander" wrote in message
> news:AAA1A3F9E8C08B99D96AB7ED87542BE8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Sounds good, Bill.
> >
> > Now, try a small section of thread and array it to see if you can
get
> > something you can work with (a minute or 2 for creation)
> >
> > QBZ
> >
> >
> > "Bill Henry" wrote in message
> > news:392F2A7AD5F15070E20E0BF98CFC9952@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > We have been using the "coil" command to do this. We build the
> > profile of
> > > the thread, and then revolve it with the coil command. we have
done
> > bolts
> > > as small as about an 8-32 over 1/2 inch in length (takes about a
> > minute to
> > > finish), and the largest, which we've never let run to
completion -
> > 3/4 Dia
> > > Acme thread over about 24"
> > >
> > > The steps we use are as follows:
> > >
> > > 1- create a shaft
> > > 2- build the thread profile
> > > 3- Align the shaft and thread profile properly, and apply the coil
> > command
> > > 4- wait
> > > 5- finish or crash
> > >
> > > In running MD in the past, I used to "work around" this by
creating
> > > "representational" threads, but I was hoping IV had enough
horsepower
> > to
> > > give me the real thing.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > "Quinn Zander" wrote in message
> > > news:514DC167B370B4B74ABB255F7221413A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Did you try arraying a small "easy" pitch of thread?
> > > >
> > > > QBZ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Bill Henry" wrote in message
> > > > news:62B5A77394FB37DE858B7A11F5C017C5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > We are working on a very precise assembly that we need to see
> > actual
> > > > thread
> > > > > pitches on shafts and mating holes.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have run into a problem with this. If we do 1-10 pitches
of a
> > > > thead
> > > > > profile, IV is fine. We need to run about 400 pitches on a
long
> > rod,
> > > > and we
> > > > > have not been able to accomplish this, or rather, we "end
task"
> > thru
> > > > windows
> > > > > manager to stop IV from working. The longest we have let a
> > machine
> > > > crunch
> > > > > is 50 minutes.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have duplicated this on 2 different machines, a laptop and
a
> > > > desktop,
> > > > > both equipped very similarly, and have had the same results,
so we
> > > > don't
> > > > > feel it is a hardware glitch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone else run across a similar problem, or have a
solution
> > for
> > > > this?
> > > > > By the way we are running IV8.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 7 of 7
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Using the coil command will produce VERY POOR performance.

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