Another NEW IV8 Bug

[Anonymous]

Inserting a subassembly into a new assembly, IV seems to
completely ignore the visibility settings for the components
in that assembly, turning every components visibility to on,
thereby forcing me to add 15 minutes to my time to go through
and turn off the ones I wish to remain hidden. I don't remember
IV7 ever doing this. Please fix this in the next service pack!

Bob S.

[Anonymous]

Have you tried RMB'ing on the sub and selecting import Design view, and then applying the
subs design view you want?
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"Bob" wrote in message
news:46E7B379954E58FE1DB52F1647F97928@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Inserting a subassembly into a new assembly, IV seems to
> completely ignore the visibility settings for the components
> in that assembly, turning every components visibility to on,
> thereby forcing me to add 15 minutes to my time to go through
> and turn off the ones I wish to remain hidden. I don't remember
> IV7 ever doing this. Please fix this in the next service pack!
>
> Bob S.
>
>

[Anonymous]

Inventor supports the placement of subassemblies using previously named
design views as well as two system design views (all visible/all hidden).

By default, subassemblies are placed with everything visible.

If you want to place a sub using a previously saved design view, select the
OPTIONS button from the PLACE COMPONENT dialog.

- G

[Anonymous]

Does the subasm have a named design view for the currently defined
component visibility or do I have to create one. I certainly have no need
for the 2 system ones. This is all making work MORE difficult. I thought
things were supposed to get easier. I never had this problem before.

While I'm ranting, I have complaints about the New Project wizard too.
(Single User Mode) Before, IV7 would remember the top level dir where
I placed all my projects, but now everytime it default to some ridiculously
long path under my user directory (My Documents). I also notice it no
longer adds the "Workgroup" directory which I have grown accustomed
to in previous releases. There are other items that also seem to require more
work than before, but I can't recall them right now.

B.S.

"Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message news:CC129AE5CE3A41366A85DD202F7318AD@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Inventor supports the placement of subassemblies using previously named
> design views as well as two system design views (all visible/all hidden).
>
> By default, subassemblies are placed with everything visible.
>
> If you want to place a sub using a previously saved design view, select the
> OPTIONS button from the PLACE COMPONENT dialog.
>
> - G
>
>

[Anonymous]

Did you assign a directory in "app options>files tab"?
darvin

"Bob" wrote in message
news:6A629178364D01989C71A77B71C30691@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Does the subasm have a named design view for the currently defined
> component visibility or do I have to create one. I certainly have no
need
> for the 2 system ones. This is all making work MORE difficult. I
thought
> things were supposed to get easier. I never had this problem before.
>
> While I'm ranting, I have complaints about the New Project wizard too.
> (Single User Mode) Before, IV7 would remember the top level dir where
> I placed all my projects, but now everytime it default to some
ridiculously
> long path under my user directory (My Documents). I also notice it no
> longer adds the "Workgroup" directory which I have grown accustomed
> to in previous releases. There are other items that also seem to
require more
> work than before, but I can't recall them right now.
>
> B.S.
>
> "Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:CC129AE5CE3A41366A85DD202F7318AD@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Inventor supports the placement of subassemblies using previously
named
> > design views as well as two system design views (all visible/all
hidden).
> >
> > By default, subassemblies are placed with everything visible.
> >
> > If you want to place a sub using a previously saved design view,
select the
> > OPTIONS button from the PLACE COMPONENT dialog.
> >
> > - G
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

> While I'm ranting, I have complaints about the New Project wizard too.
> (Single User Mode) Before, IV7 would remember the top level dir where
> I placed all my projects, but now everytime it default to some
ridiculously
> long path under my user directory (My Documents).

TOOLS, APPLICATION OPTIONS, PROJECTS FOLDER path

Is that it?

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"Bob" wrote in message
news:6A629178364D01989C71A77B71C30691@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Does the subasm have a named design view for the currently defined
> component visibility or do I have to create one. I certainly have no need
> for the 2 system ones. This is all making work MORE difficult. I thought
> things were supposed to get easier. I never had this problem before.
>
> While I'm ranting, I have complaints about the New Project wizard too.
> (Single User Mode) Before, IV7 would remember the top level dir where
> I placed all my projects, but now everytime it default to some
ridiculously
> long path under my user directory (My Documents). I also notice it no
> longer adds the "Workgroup" directory which I have grown accustomed
> to in previous releases. There are other items that also seem to require
more
> work than before, but I can't recall them right now.
>
> B.S.
>
> "Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:CC129AE5CE3A41366A85DD202F7318AD@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Inventor supports the placement of subassemblies using previously named
> > design views as well as two system design views (all visible/all
hidden).
> >
> > By default, subassemblies are placed with everything visible.
> >
> > If you want to place a sub using a previously saved design view, select
the
> > OPTIONS button from the PLACE COMPONENT dialog.
> >
> > - G
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

Inventor always saves the last state of your assembly to a design view
called: .default

So, you should always be able to use that.

I'm not sure why you say you have no need for the two system design views.
All visible lets you turn everything on quite easily. Nothing visible is
hugely useful in manually managing performance in very large assemblies.

[Anonymous]

>Nothing visible is hugely useful in manually managing performance
>in very large assemblies.

Can you elaborate on this....

Dave

[Anonymous]

You can turn everything off, then turn on only the parts you want.

It would be great if you could select the parts you want to keep visible,
then have IV turn everything else off. Like MDT.

[Anonymous]

Another issue I just remembered. When you edit a library part in
order to do a Save Copy As, you usually want this copy to be
local to your Workgroup, not the Library. Well, now IV8 assumed
you want to copy the file to the same place it was, in this case, the
Library dir, so now I have to click on Workgroup before saving it!

B.S.

[Anonymous]

> Can you elaborate on this....

Absolutely... 😉

Inventor does not (currently) provide a manual method to unload memory.

However, Inventor does use segmented loading. This allows us to only use
memory for what is needed.

Components that are not displayed do not load their graphic segments when
they are opened or placed.

So, if you have strategically created design views of very large assemblies
which you use as subassemblies you can help yourself (capacity-wise).

The ability to place a subassembly with nothing visible means that you won't
load any of the graphic segments into memory (of course, it also makes the
subsequent positioning a bit difficult, but it is available).

My suggestion is to create meaningfully named design views and use them.

If you are working in a team design environment, let your team members know
what the design views are so they can benefit as well.

- G

[Anonymous]

I'm not talking about the Projects folder where the "SHORTCUTS" to
the projects are stored. I have that set the way I want. I'm talking about the
actual file directory where the real Project file is kept. What I am referring
to is apparently now called the Project (Workspace) Folder. I am used to the
way IV5.3-7 did projects. Now they expect me to change all that? Why?


"darvinv" wrote in message news:27387B3190C320B07D0AF467C70D8D05@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Did you assign a directory in "app options>files tab"?
> darvin
>

[Anonymous]

Within Autodesk Inventor 8, select the parts that you want to keep visibile,
select the Invert Selection option from the "Select" drop down list, RMB,
select Visibility
-jeremy

"Jack Spray" <--> wrote in message
news:BAC6B6ADA71C3131A6F2E91D7A8CDA25@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> You can turn everything off, then turn on only the parts you want.
>
> It would be great if you could select the parts you want to keep visible,
> then have IV turn everything else off. Like MDT.
>
>

[Anonymous]

But you can also turn off the whole assembly just as easily as a part, RMB->Visibility.

"Jack Spray" <--> wrote in message news:BAC6B6ADA71C3131A6F2E91D7A8CDA25@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> You can turn everything off, then turn on only the parts you want.
>
> It would be great if you could select the parts you want to keep visible,
> then have IV turn everything else off. Like MDT.
>
>

[Anonymous]

Select the parts you want to see.

RMB, INVERT SELECTION

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"Jack Spray" <--> wrote in message
news:BAC6B6ADA71C3131A6F2E91D7A8CDA25@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> You can turn everything off, then turn on only the parts you want.
>
> It would be great if you could select the parts you want to keep visible,
> then have IV turn everything else off. Like MDT.
>
>

[Anonymous]

Then doesn't it make sense that .default should be the design
view used BY DEFAULT when placing a subasm? Makes more sense to me!

Bob

"Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message news:784D268FBDB5CD042E3263EC1AB2CD79@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Inventor always saves the last state of your assembly to a design view
> called: .default
>
> So, you should always be able to use that.
>
> I'm not sure why you say you have no need for the two system design views.
> All visible lets you turn everything on quite easily. Nothing visible is
> hugely useful in manually managing performance in very large assemblies.
>
>

[Anonymous]

No thanks. I don't want to remember if I saved in a particular view.

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"Bob" wrote in message
news:7132D48E092D8E553AD21B0B797EB062@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Then doesn't it make sense that .default should be the design
> view used BY DEFAULT when placing a subasm? Makes more sense to me!
>
> Bob
>
> "Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:784D268FBDB5CD042E3263EC1AB2CD79@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Inventor always saves the last state of your assembly to a design view
> > called: .default
> >
> > So, you should always be able to use that.
> >
> > I'm not sure why you say you have no need for the two system design
views.
> > All visible lets you turn everything on quite easily. Nothing visible is
> > hugely useful in manually managing performance in very large assemblies.
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

Is there a way to save different design views in a part file? If you
could save and restore suppression and end of part properties you
would have a simple form of configurations. ----------



>Inventor supports the placement of subassemblies using previously named
>design views as well as two system design views (all visible/all hidden).
>

[Anonymous]

Did you notice that .default is the DEFAULT design view
when placing base views in drawings. Maybe Autodesk will be changing
that so the default is system.all. Have to be consistent, right?

Bob

"Rui" wrote in message news:AA860234A37AFEEB94C247646679C193@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> No thanks. I don't want to remember if I saved in a particular view.
>
> --
> ______________
> Rui
> ruivaz@cadmais.pt
> www.cadmais.pt
>
>
> "Bob" wrote in message
> news:7132D48E092D8E553AD21B0B797EB062@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Then doesn't it make sense that .default should be the design
> > view used BY DEFAULT when placing a subasm? Makes more sense to me!
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > "Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message
> news:784D268FBDB5CD042E3263EC1AB2CD79@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Inventor always saves the last state of your assembly to a design view
> > > called: .default
> > >
> > > So, you should always be able to use that.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure why you say you have no need for the two system design
> views.
> > > All visible lets you turn everything on quite easily. Nothing visible is
> > > hugely useful in manually managing performance in very large assemblies.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

Nope never had - don't do enough 2D.

I agree, should be consistent.

Since I've been using another software until a few months ago, I'm used to
placing and configuring or selecting my options beforehand, so I've never
payed that much attention to it.

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"Bob" wrote in message
news:2B14156AD88D44C855152586A10850C6@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Did you notice that .default is the DEFAULT design view
> when placing base views in drawings. Maybe Autodesk will be changing
> that so the default is system.all. Have to be consistent, right?
>
> Bob
>
> "Rui" wrote in message
news:AA860234A37AFEEB94C247646679C193@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > No thanks. I don't want to remember if I saved in a particular view.
> >
> > --
> > ______________
> > Rui
> > ruivaz@cadmais.pt
> > www.cadmais.pt
> >
> >
> > "Bob" wrote in message
> > news:7132D48E092D8E553AD21B0B797EB062@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Then doesn't it make sense that .default should be the
design
> > > view used BY DEFAULT when placing a subasm? Makes more sense to me!
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > "Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message
> > news:784D268FBDB5CD042E3263EC1AB2CD79@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Inventor always saves the last state of your assembly to a design
view
> > > > called: .default
> > > >
> > > > So, you should always be able to use that.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure why you say you have no need for the two system design
> > views.
> > > > All visible lets you turn everything on quite easily. Nothing
visible is
> > > > hugely useful in manually managing performance in very large
assemblies.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>