3d pdf

[thaddeus]

When will Inventor be able to output to a 3D pdf?

Solidworks already has this feature in their 2009 version.

[mcgyvr]

That would be GREAT!!!! Especially with the fact that Adobe Acrobat only supports the latest version of Inventor for about 3 months out of the year then your SOL. Like I said in another post we bought multiple seats of Acrobat 3d only to find out it doesn't support the latest version of Inventor from about March when the newest version of Inventor comes out till about December when they finally release a patch for Acrobat to allow native opening of Inventor files.
http://www.augi.com/inventor/submitwish.asp?page=1083

[Anonymous]

I thought I remembered Autodesk or someone releasing a preliminary
3d pdf output program that was supposed to work like a 3d printer
a year or 2 ago? Anyone else remember that? Is it still around?

Bob S.

mcgyvr wrote:
> That would be GREAT!!!! Especially with the fact that Adobe Acrobat only
> supports the latest version of Inventor for about 3 months out of the
> year then your SOL. Like I said in another post we bought multiple seats
> of Acrobat 3d only to find out it doesn't support the latest version of
> Inventor from about March when the newest version of Inventor comes out
> till about December when they finally release a patch for Acrobat to
> allow native opening of Inventor files.
> http://www.augi.com/inventor/submitwish.asp?page=1083

[ralfwalter]

Hello,

I recommend that you export to DWF. You can download the DWF viewer from:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?id=12423405&siteID=123112

Regards,

Ralf Walter (Autodesk)

[Anonymous]

Ralf,

Do you now provide a dwf viewer for linux/unix/macOS systems?
3d pdf is available for all these, I believe. Same as acrobat
reader is available for all these systems.

ralfwalter wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I recommend that you export to DWF. You can download the DWF viewer from:
>
> http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?id=12423405&siteID=123112
>
> Regards,
>
> Ralf Walter (Autodesk)

[thaddeus]

Ralf thanks for your response.

But this isn't about utilizing Autodesk DWF output, this is about exporting an industry standard file type.

The problem is most computer users do not have or want a dwf viewer, almost all public documents are pdf, therefore adobe reader is required on any computer that utilizes public documents.

Thaddeus

[mcgyvr]

Yes but we like PDF better 🙂 I've never gotten on the DWF bandwagon. Mainly because no one outside of the Autodesk world knows what it is. It's almost guaranteed that anyone I send a pdf file to can open it. I don't think that I could say that for DWF.
I just had one customer that I tried to be all high tech and send a dwf so they could view/rotate,etc.. my 3d model.. Autodesk says that DWF can be view with Internet Explorer (they say it like anyone with Internet Explorer can view it..WRONG). I felt stupid when my customer came back and said they cannot view this DWF file and could I send a pdf instead.

[charegb]

Autodesk's Freewheel project allows you to upload a DWF file and anyone with a web browser can then view it without having to download any additional software.

http://labs.autodesk.com/technologies/freewheel/

Regards,
Bankim
(Autodesk) Edited by: charegb on Oct 5, 2009 11:30 AM

[Anonymous]

Keyword: "anyone with a web beowser can view it"! Where's the security?

charegb wrote:
> Autodesk's Freewheel project allows you to upload a DWF file and anyone with a web browser can then view it without having to download any additional software.
>
> http://labs.autodesk.com/technologies/freewheel/
>
> Regards,
> Bankim
> (Autodesk)
>
> Edited by: charegb on Oct 5, 2009 11:30 AM

[scottmoyse]

other than for markups, dwf viewer is truely crap!! And i have found that even the mark up facilities are seriously lacking. 3D Pdf's ROCK, and you can also use it as a file translator quite successfully. You can do so much with 3D pdf's and its cross platform to boot. They are really onto something there, autodesk take note.

[thaddeus]

Here is something to think about.
Solidworks has E-Drawings which are similar to DWFs, Solidworks thought it was important enough to also have a 3D pdf output.

[ToddHarris7556]

For what it's worth.... I (and others) have voiced this before, but it's been a while, so I'll toss it out again:

DWF is a pretty nifty format. I like being able to combine sheets, 3D, BOM, markups, etc. All very cool.
It doesn't do me a bit of good when dealing with Mac-based clients, though. There are a fair number of these users out there in the industrial design, architecture and art worlds. MacDWF never materialized, though it was discussed for years.

Not DWF-bashing by any stretch. Just suggesting that until DWF can equal (or surpass) PDF in terms of accessibility, it will continue to be a (steep) uphill battle to get people to adopt it. A fair number of my review cycles involve Mac users, so this is a showstopper for me.

Freewheel? Also very cool, but not likely to be useful (IMHO) for anything other than posting designs of the new treefort I'm building for my kids, or a picnic table. Home projects, sure, but engineering designs? I suspect that almost all of our professional work has some privacy concern attached. I'm not likely to post any of my client's files in a public space, nor my own internal manufacturing data. Again, very nice tool, just not one that's likely to be adopted widely for professional use.

[scottmoyse]

The thing is you can combine sheets, have a BOM and markups in 3D pdf's too.

For sure, for people who don't have a 3D acrobat license DWF viewer is great.

[chad.smith]

I am currently having to create an STL, move it to Solidworks, and then I can create a 3D pdf for others to view. I think it is a little crazy to do this.

I would really like the oportunity to do it directly from Inventor.

[sylvaindussault4118]

Question for Autodesk:
3d pdf generation from Inventor would make a really cool subjet for your next Autodesk University!
PDF are universal, known everywhere.
DWF are Adesk-user-versal, unknown elsewhere.

Now that you know it, correct it!

[JDMather]

>I am currently having to create an STL, move it to Solidworks

Why would you use a faceted stl rather than a stp file?

[Anonymous]

JD, I'm speculating here but I think that if you looked at the raw data of
the PDF you;ll find it to be a course mesh that the viewer smooths. Chad's
stl should create faster, open much faster
in Solidworks and create a much lower file creation overhead. And probably
looses nothing in the translation except colors. (if memory serves,
Solidworks pdf's don't contain naming, structure or material information)


wrote in message news:6284060@discussion.autodesk.com...
>I am currently having to create an STL, move it to Solidworks

Why would you use a faceted stl rather than a stp file?

[wmgray]

Hi all,

I just joined the forum this week because my company, I-Cubed, has developed an add-on called ChainLink for another CAD client which extracts into PDF various 3d views, supporting documents (bom, surface specs, etc.), and a 3D PDF into one technical data package, viewable by Reader, and we're gauging interest in the AutoDesk community. The package can be used for design reviews, internal stakeholders without CAD licenses, and even externally for manufacturing purposes. The package can optionally be secured through dynamically configurable rights management if you have access to a LiveCycle server, and we're investigating other, more lightweight methods.

We'd love to bring ChainLink to Inventor if it's a feature that adds value to your work. If anyone is interested in signing up as a beta tester we can work with you to understand your requirements and how you use exported 3D PDF's and incorporate that into the final product, and we would only ask for some testing and user feedback in return.

Here's a link to a product demo: http://www.i-cubed.com/chainlink/video/ChainLinkDemo.html

Contact me at william.gray at i-cubedcom if you're interested.

Thanks,
Billy, I-Cubed

[delineryan]

If I remember correctly, SW2007 had save as 3D PDF.

Ryan

[petercharles]

Please don't stick your head in the sand on this subject. When you're outside the DWG format the world does not revolve around Autodesk, take off the blinkers and start taking the wider view.