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2013 Appearances - Bleh. Give me back my 2012 colors!

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Message 1 of 16
RayNeudorf
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2013 Appearances - Bleh. Give me back my 2012 colors!

I migrated my 2012 materials into a new library - (what a pain).

 

I would LIKE TO migrate the colors that are stored in the colors.xml in Design Data to the 2013, but I cannot seem to do so.

To clarify what colors I am after they are the ones like: Red (Chili), Red (Flat), etc...

 

How do I do this?

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Message 2 of 16
JohnK_TEDCF
in reply to: RayNeudorf

A lot of our customers have been calling us about this same issue.  These links might help you out:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKKZMNa0EjU

 

http://www.trainingtutorial.com/TAT38_Custom_Autodesk_Inventor_2013_Material_Library.htm

 

Hope this helps!

 

 

John Koop
Software Engineer/ Inventor Specialist
TEDCF Publishing
www.trainingtutorial.com
Message 3 of 16
RayNeudorf
in reply to: JohnK_TEDCF

Thanks, but this brings across material styles but not any of the color styles.

 

I don't want any my customized styles, I want the default Inventor 2012 colors.

 

Autodesk do you have an answer for me? How do I do this?

Message 4 of 16
sam_m
in reply to: RayNeudorf

tbh m8, a LOT of the default 2012 (and prior) colours are wrong and needed updating anyway - especially if you're wanting to do any rendering.  The majority of reflective materials have an emissive value which means it's giving off light (emitting it) - no matter how much I clean a ball bearing I'm pretty sure it doesn't start giving off light...

 

(note - not had a chance to upgrade to 2013 yet, so not checked if these incorrect emissive settings are still there). 



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Message 5 of 16
RayNeudorf
in reply to: sam_m

Don't care if they were "wrong" they were what I had been using for years.

I don't really care about the photorealistic 2012 colors, I want the reds, blues, greens, purples, yellows, whites, etc.

 

These colours were very important to properly display complex assemblies with contrast between components.

These became the basis of how we display products to customers.

Message 6 of 16
sam_m
in reply to: RayNeudorf

And they (basic colours/materials with any highly reflective setting like polished metals) have been wrong for years - the colours were setup with emissive values before Studio was introduced and tbh they should have been addressed then, but nope.  So I guess they have finally got round to trying to fixing the bugs/issues they had with the colours/materials in the hope to improve them in the long term (and really hope they've removed all the erroneous emissive values)



Sam M.
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Message 7 of 16
Closterman
in reply to: RayNeudorf

I also need to have the 2012 color...  The welder in the shop doesn't need a realistic view, he want to see the difference between the different assembly.. !! 

Message 8 of 16
Bill_Bogan1
in reply to: Closterman

  1. If you still have 2012 installed, check the color styles (use Style Editor) and see if the check box for Realistic Appearance is checked. If so, uncheck it. Save changes. Repeat for every color style you want to migrate. Exit 2012,
  2.  Start Inventor 2013 and start a new part (new part or open part required for working with libraries)
  3.  In the QAT click the Appearance Browser, and at the bottom of the browser, click Manage (gear icon) and Migrate Inventor Styles.
  4. Select the 2012 Inventor Material Library as your From library.
  5. Select the 2013 Inventor Material Library as your To library. Or, you can create a custom library and use that as the To target.
  6. Click OK.
  7. In the Project Editor, right-click the Appearances Libraries node and Add Library - navigate to and select the custom library. If you used the 2013 Inventor Material Library as your target this step is unnecessary.
  8.  In a part file (new or opened), click the Appearance Browser (QAT) and select the library (lower left section).  To the right you should see the list of contents. Are your styles there? If so, apply some and see how they look.

Check back in and let me know if this worked for you.

Hope this helped.

 

Bill Bogan

 



Bill Bogan
Principal Content Experience Designer
CXD
PDMS-DiD-Digital Manufacturing
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 9 of 16
WHolzwarth
in reply to: RayNeudorf

No success here, Bill.

I've tried to import one of my favorites Gelb(dunkel) = Yellow(dark) from 2012 to 2013. I noticed a date change in InventorMaterialLibrary.adsklib, but I didn't find the color.

Instead, most of my colors now seem duplicated in the library.

 

What to do now? Thanks

Walter

Walter Holzwarth

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Message 10 of 16
IsomaAde
in reply to: RayNeudorf

Hello Bill

 

I'm having this rather frustrating problem as well. However my predicament is compounded by coming from 2009 to 2013. There does not appear to be the check box that you are referring to in 2009. I am now frustratingly in possession of a stainless steel framework assembly made up of two differing colours (colors) of stainless steel. Some parts derived from 2009 parts are the colour I want yet others are not. I don't care what colour (color) they are just as long as they are the same. How do I fix this issue.

 

Many Thanks

 

Ade

Message 11 of 16
Bill_Bogan1
in reply to: IsomaAde

Hi IsomaAde,

You are correct about the predicament being compounded by being in 2009. The Realistic style setting had not been instituted at that point in time.

 

I can do some background checking, but may need to ask you to send the dataset so we can determine what is happening. Is that an option, sending the dataset to Autodesk?

 

Thanks,

Bill



Bill Bogan
Principal Content Experience Designer
CXD
PDMS-DiD-Digital Manufacturing
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 12 of 16
Bill_Bogan1
in reply to: WHolzwarth

Walter, can you email me the .styxml file so I can attempt to import it?

 

Thanks,

Bill

 

 



Bill Bogan
Principal Content Experience Designer
CXD
PDMS-DiD-Digital Manufacturing
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 13 of 16
WHolzwarth
in reply to: Bill_Bogan1

Good evening, Bill

Perhaps it's too late now, 2 months have passed since my last post.

Which Styxml file do you need? What has to be done for creation?

Thanks for hints

Walter

Walter Holzwarth

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Message 14 of 16
C.Geerts6948
in reply to: Bill_Bogan1

Glad that there are more people how want the 2012 colors back. I do not have the time to play arround with colors. I also want to set a yellow red or green etc. Instead of those fancy textures and shiny colors.

If I've got time for that I am going to play with show case.

 

 

Message 15 of 16
guido_66
in reply to: C.Geerts6948

Because I skipped Inventor 2013, I now come across the same issue in 2014.

 

Autodesk, please give us a set of simple, distinctive and plain colors like it used to be.

Message 16 of 16
ChrisMitchell01
in reply to: guido_66

If you set InvCM_ForceConvertToGeneric=1 as a system env variable before migrating colors/materials.xml &/or migrating data in Inventor (or with Task Scheduler), then :

 

1. A generic appearance will be created for each color style, instead of using the new categories

2. It will look like the appearance of the old color style in 2012 shaded view.

3. The appearance will keep the same display name that the old color style was migrated from.

 

This is a useful newsgroup thread that you might want to read if you haven’t already done so:

 

Inventor 2013 projects over networks

 

Basically you set the env variable, start Inventor, go to the appearance browser, use the Migrate Inventor Syles command (bottom left corner of Ui), select your legacy location for colors.xml files, specify the name of your new appearance library. This will create a new .adsklib file.

 

Put that file in your Design Data\Materials folder & then edit your project definition & add that library for appearances.

 

Obviously not the answer you're looking for but unfortunately that's how it currently is, (or you use the as-shipped appearances).

 

Hope this helps,

Chris



Chris Mitchell
PDMS Customer Engagment Team
Autodesk, Inc.

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