Inventor General Discussion

Inventor General Discussion

*Sean Dotson
Post 1 of 33

10+ years

1369 Views, 32 Replies
06-03-2010 01:40 PM
Wanted to get in one last post via NNTP. After more than 10 years it's sad
to think it's going away. I'll reserve judgment on the new web interface
until it's up and running. Fingers crossed (but breath not being held).

See you (maybe) on the flip side.

Sean Dotson, PE
Post 2 of 33

Re: 10+ years

06-03-2010 01:42 PM in reply to: *Sean Dotson
feels like 11:30PM, Dec 31st, 1999 around here right about now....
*Dennis Jeffrey
Post 3 of 33

Re: 10+ years

06-03-2010 02:05 PM in reply to: *Sean Dotson
Probably not very often if anytime here....
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert

Subscribe to the free "The Creative Inventor Magazine now available at:
*Walt Jaquith
Post 4 of 33

Re: 10+ years

06-03-2010 03:32 PM in reply to: *Sean Dotson
Don't think I'll go there. I just looked at the web-side interface. It's
awful. On the nntp side, even without OE maximized, I can view 35 threads
at once; enough to see a couple normal day's worth of original posts at a
glance, and the rest (literally thousands of them) are just a quick scroll
down. I can also quickly overview all but the longest threads, seeing the
headers for all nested replies at the same time. I've got 77,000 messages
loaded; enough to quickly search back to May of 2008. On the web side....15
visible, and I have to load another page to get another 15. It's slow,
clunky, a huge waste of screen real estate, doesn't decode attached
pictures, and makes it really hard to see the continuity of any thread.

A screenshot of each, in the same-sized window. It's scary that there are
people in Autodesk who think this represents progress.

Good luck, everyone.

*Dennis Jeffrey
Post 5 of 33

Re: 10+ years

06-03-2010 03:56 PM in reply to: *Sean Dotson
Ditto... :smileyhappy:
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert

Subscribe to the free "The Creative Inventor Magazine now available at:
88 Posts
2 Kudos
Registered: ‎06-07-2004
Post 6 of 33

Re: 10+ years

06-04-2010 05:23 PM in reply to: *Dennis Jeffrey

Sean, folks,


What about RSS? 



(let's see what my new sig looks like...) 


Peter Maxfield
Principal User Experience Designer
Digital Simulation
Autodesk, Inc.

1,369 Posts
40 Kudos
Registered: ‎12-15-2003
Post 7 of 33

Re: 10+ years

06-04-2010 07:01 PM in reply to: Peter_Maxfield_Autodesk

It has taken me 5 minutes to login, and access the Inventor NG. It took one minute to access this page so that I could post this message.  It would have taken 5 seconds via NNTP. Congratulations Autodesk, you have managed to kill the Golden Calf.


As to RSS. I have absolutely no reason to get useless replies cluttering my inbox. I get enough of those already from adobe's site. I can't even get an administrator there to kill the one feed that I foolishly selected.


This discussion group has lost all the value it once had.


Dennis Jeffrey

Please mark this response as "Accept as Solution" if it answers your question.
Dennis Jeffrey, Author and Manufacturing Trainer, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert
Autodesk Silver Manufacturing Partner

Subscribe to the free digital "The Creative Inventor Magazine" now available at: http://teknigroup....

XP64 SP2, GeForce 9800GT-1GB, Driver:, 8GB Ram, AMD Athlon II 3.2 Ghz
Laptop: Win7-64 Pro, 4GB, ATI Graphics on board, 2012 Ultimate, IV2011 or 2010 Pro, all SP's
*Expert Elite*
217 Posts
22 Kudos
Registered: ‎09-30-2008
Post 8 of 33

Re: 10+ years

06-04-2010 07:34 PM in reply to: Peter_Maxfield_Autodesk

RSS is good for reading, but unless I am wrong, you can't reply via RSS. So NNTP is still a better solution.

*Expert Elite*
4,353 Posts
503 Kudos
Registered: ‎04-27-2005
Post 9 of 33

Re: 10+ years

06-04-2010 08:02 PM in reply to: *Walt Jaquith

I had used the newsreader for several years, up until about 3 years ago.  When I moved over to the web based reader, I did not really like it at first... but I have gotten used to it.  I agree with all of the issues that you bring up.  It is nice to be able to scroll thru all the messages.

If you are only seeing 15 or so posts on one page, you can change that.  Go to the "My Settings" link on the upper right.  There  you will find the Preference tab.  Go to the linear layout and you can change the number of posts per page.

One thing that I like over this new web design is the "My Subscriptions" over on the right that shows what messages I am subscribed to.  You had to jump thru hoops to find it in the old version.

They also made it so we could add a signature to our posts.  Another welcomed improvement is that we can now post more than one attachment.  This may not mean much to the NTTP user because they could already do both of them.


I remember reading your posts over the years, and I hope we don't loose you over this.  Give the web side a little time, hopefully you will grow to like it.

Valued Contributor
89 Posts
2 Kudos
Registered: ‎09-23-2008
Post 10 of 33

Re: 10+ years

06-05-2010 10:11 AM in reply to: *Sean Dotson

I am trying to keep an open mind, but have to agree with everything Walt said.  I can understand that online forums give better control to the administrators, but I have yet to see one hold a candle to NNTP for user functionality. 

I don't get here as often as I used to, and I just cant see clicking through 15 to 20 pages of posts just to see if any topics peak my interest. These forums have grown so big (of course they may start to shrink now) that even with NNTP it takes a lot of time out of a day to look through all the posts.  I just can't see doubling or tripling that amount of time.


Interesting... this is one of the few places I have seen that my built in Firefox spell check doesn't work. :smileysad:

Kent Keller

Post to the Community

Have questions about Autodesk products? Ask the community.

New Post