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*Witkop-Staub, Robin
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unable to save intermittent error

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01-12-2000 09:39 PM
I have 4 acad2000 users (all autocad installs are local) sharing files on a
Novell 5.0 mapped drive. Windows 95 B on Compaq PII 300 networked desktops.

On occasion they will receive a error stating they cant save because the
drawing is in use by another session. It creates a *.ac$ file and procedes.
Sometimes they perform a SAVE AS command to get out of this but it does not
always work.

All users have proper rights and access to the mapped drives. No other
programs give access errors. The problem comes and goes and there are no
other users in these drawing files. What is causing this error and is there
a fix.
*Milana, Jerry
Message 2 of 7 (146 Views)

Re: unable to save intermittent error

01-14-2000 02:18 PM in reply to: *Witkop-Staub, Robin
Robin,

This is a known issue with Netware , you will find lots of postings in this site
regarding this problem. This problem has been identifyed as being caused by
some versions of Novell's Client 32. You should contact your Novell support
resource to obtain the latest version of Client 32 and try it.

Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Product Support

Robin Witkop-Staub wrote:

> I have 4 acad2000 users (all autocad installs are local) sharing files on a
> Novell 5.0 mapped drive. Windows 95 B on Compaq PII 300 networked desktops.
>
> On occasion they will receive a error stating they cant save because the
> drawing is in use by another session. It creates a *.ac$ file and procedes.
> Sometimes they perform a SAVE AS command to get out of this but it does not
> always work.
>
> All users have proper rights and access to the mapped drives. No other
> programs give access errors. The problem comes and goes and there are no
> other users in these drawing files. What is causing this error and is there
> a fix.
*Witkop-Staub, Robin
Message 3 of 7 (146 Views)

Re:

01-17-2000 07:44 PM in reply to: *Witkop-Staub, Robin
I have been able to dramatically reduce the saving error by changing the
ISAVEPERCENT variable from 50 to 100. This is going to increase the size of
our drawings I assume though. I looked up Novell client data and they just
released a new client32 on 1/13/00. I will download, install, and let you
know if this helps.

Jerry Milana wrote in message <387FA09E.95DD3E51@autodesk.com>...
>Robin,
>
>This is a known issue with Netware , you will find lots of postings in this
site
>regarding this problem. This problem has been identifyed as being caused
by
>some versions of Novell's Client 32. You should contact your Novell
support
>resource to obtain the latest version of Client 32 and try it.
>
>Jerry Milana,
>Autodesk Product Support
>
>Robin Witkop-Staub wrote:
>
>> I have 4 acad2000 users (all autocad installs are local) sharing files on
a
>> Novell 5.0 mapped drive. Windows 95 B on Compaq PII 300 networked
desktops.
>>
>> On occasion they will receive a error stating they cant save because the
>> drawing is in use by another session. It creates a *.ac$ file and
procedes.
>> Sometimes they perform a SAVE AS command to get out of this but it does
not
>> always work.
>>
>> All users have proper rights and access to the mapped drives. No other
>> programs give access errors. The problem comes and goes and there are no
>> other users in these drawing files. What is causing this error and is
there
>> a fix.
>
*Hanson, Tore
Message 4 of 7 (146 Views)

Re:

01-24-2000 08:23 AM in reply to: *Witkop-Staub, Robin
Don't believe that it is just a Netware problem. I get the same problem and
I don't use Netware! I use the MS networking functions. I had the problem in
Win98 and now in Win98SE (second edition). I was told that I needed to
update everything, remove all the network cards and then see if I had the
problem, ya right! I just have to keep renaming the drawing until I'm
finished a session, then go back and rename the final drawing to the correct
name....what a hassle, but at least I get to save my changes.

I did purchase and install Win98SE to see if the problem would dissappear,
but it didn't. I don't intend to remove the network cards for the sake of
this bug. If I get paid by Autodesk for my downtime, I will be glad to try
it. I'm sorry that the problem hasn't been resolved yet!

Tore Hanson

Jerry Milana wrote in message
news:387FA09E.95DD3E51@autodesk.com...
> Robin,
>
> This is a known issue with Netware , you will find lots of postings in
this site
> regarding this problem. This problem has been identifyed as being caused
by
> some versions of Novell's Client 32. You should contact your Novell
support
> resource to obtain the latest version of Client 32 and try it.
>
> Jerry Milana,
> Autodesk Product Support
>
> Robin Witkop-Staub wrote:
>
> > I have 4 acad2000 users (all autocad installs are local) sharing files
on a
> > Novell 5.0 mapped drive. Windows 95 B on Compaq PII 300 networked
desktops.
> >
> > On occasion they will receive a error stating they cant save because the
> > drawing is in use by another session. It creates a *.ac$ file and
procedes.
> > Sometimes they perform a SAVE AS command to get out of this but it does
not
> > always work.
> >
> > All users have proper rights and access to the mapped drives. No other
> > programs give access errors. The problem comes and goes and there are
no
> > other users in these drawing files. What is causing this error and is
there
> > a fix.
>
*Schroeder, Bud
Message 5 of 7 (146 Views)

Re:

01-25-2000 10:14 PM in reply to: *Witkop-Staub, Robin
Hi Tore,

I hit this today... Win98 SE on my DELL Laptop I had saved the file 4 or 5
times and it was going fine. Then I get a read only message. The only
difference here was I was working In Word 2000 and not AutoCAD. I have seen
some strange stuff in 98 SE, but nothing reproducible yet. AutoCAD doesn't
handle the file locking, the Operating System does. So you may be having
problems but it is most likely Microsoft here.

What Jerry is talking about is a very well known problem with the Novell
Client. I ran nothing but Novell servers for many year and was bit by Novell
Client problems way too many times;-)...

Take care.

Bud

PS I just ran the live update off of the Microsoft site, so I do have all the
latest patches on my system.

Tore Hanson wrote:

> Don't believe that it is just a Netware problem. I get the same problem and
> I don't use Netware! I use the MS networking functions. I had the problem in
> Win98 and now in Win98SE (second edition). I was told that I needed to
> update everything, remove all the network cards and then see if I had the
> problem, ya right! I just have to keep renaming the drawing until I'm
> finished a session, then go back and rename the final drawing to the correct
> name....what a hassle, but at least I get to save my changes.
>
> I did purchase and install Win98SE to see if the problem would dissappear,
> but it didn't. I don't intend to remove the network cards for the sake of
> this bug. If I get paid by Autodesk for my downtime, I will be glad to try
> it. I'm sorry that the problem hasn't been resolved yet!
>
> Tore Hanson
>
> Jerry Milana wrote in message
> news:387FA09E.95DD3E51@autodesk.com...
> > Robin,
> >
> > This is a known issue with Netware , you will find lots of postings in
> this site
> > regarding this problem. This problem has been identifyed as being caused
> by
> > some versions of Novell's Client 32. You should contact your Novell
> support
> > resource to obtain the latest version of Client 32 and try it.
> >
> > Jerry Milana,
> > Autodesk Product Support
> >
> > Robin Witkop-Staub wrote:
> >
> > > I have 4 acad2000 users (all autocad installs are local) sharing files
> on a
> > > Novell 5.0 mapped drive. Windows 95 B on Compaq PII 300 networked
> desktops.
> > >
> > > On occasion they will receive a error stating they cant save because the
> > > drawing is in use by another session. It creates a *.ac$ file and
> procedes.
> > > Sometimes they perform a SAVE AS command to get out of this but it does
> not
> > > always work.
> > >
> > > All users have proper rights and access to the mapped drives. No other
> > > programs give access errors. The problem comes and goes and there are
> no
> > > other users in these drawing files. What is causing this error and is
> there
> > > a fix.
> >
*Hanson, Tore
Message 6 of 7 (146 Views)

Re:

01-26-2000 05:09 PM in reply to: *Witkop-Staub, Robin
Thanks for a second opinion. I appreciate knowing this from a "third" party.
So now I have to find "where" the file locking is handled. I've done "live"
updates too, but still no change. Win98 is in a constant state of needing an
update.

Tore

Bud Schroeder wrote in message
news:388E90CB.41BE2AAF@sonic.net...
> Hi Tore,
>
> I hit this today... Win98 SE on my DELL Laptop I had saved the file 4 or
5
> times and it was going fine. Then I get a read only message. The only
> difference here was I was working In Word 2000 and not AutoCAD. I have
seen
> some strange stuff in 98 SE, but nothing reproducible yet. AutoCAD
doesn't
> handle the file locking, the Operating System does. So you may be having
> problems but it is most likely Microsoft here.
>
> What Jerry is talking about is a very well known problem with the Novell
> Client. I ran nothing but Novell servers for many year and was bit by
Novell
> Client problems way too many times;-)...
>
> Take care.
>
> Bud
>
> PS I just ran the live update off of the Microsoft site, so I do have all
the
> latest patches on my system.
>
> Tore Hanson wrote:
>
> > Don't believe that it is just a Netware problem. I get the same problem
and
> > I don't use Netware! I use the MS networking functions. I had the
problem in
> > Win98 and now in Win98SE (second edition). I was told that I needed to
> > update everything, remove all the network cards and then see if I had
the
> > problem, ya right! I just have to keep renaming the drawing until I'm
> > finished a session, then go back and rename the final drawing to the
correct
> > name....what a hassle, but at least I get to save my changes.
> >
> > I did purchase and install Win98SE to see if the problem would
dissappear,
> > but it didn't. I don't intend to remove the network cards for the sake
of
> > this bug. If I get paid by Autodesk for my downtime, I will be glad to
try
> > it. I'm sorry that the problem hasn't been resolved yet!
> >
> > Tore Hanson
> >
> > Jerry Milana wrote in message
> > news:387FA09E.95DD3E51@autodesk.com...
> > > Robin,
> > >
> > > This is a known issue with Netware , you will find lots of postings in
> > this site
> > > regarding this problem. This problem has been identifyed as being
caused
> > by
> > > some versions of Novell's Client 32. You should contact your Novell
> > support
> > > resource to obtain the latest version of Client 32 and try it.
> > >
> > > Jerry Milana,
> > > Autodesk Product Support
> > >
> > > Robin Witkop-Staub wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have 4 acad2000 users (all autocad installs are local) sharing
files
> > on a
> > > > Novell 5.0 mapped drive. Windows 95 B on Compaq PII 300 networked
> > desktops.
> > > >
> > > > On occasion they will receive a error stating they cant save because
the
> > > > drawing is in use by another session. It creates a *.ac$ file and
> > procedes.
> > > > Sometimes they perform a SAVE AS command to get out of this but it
does
> > not
> > > > always work.
> > > >
> > > > All users have proper rights and access to the mapped drives. No
other
> > > > programs give access errors. The problem comes and goes and there
are
> > no
> > > > other users in these drawing files. What is causing this error and
is
> > there
> > > > a fix.
> > >
>
*Witkop-Staub, Robin
Message 7 of 7 (146 Views)

Re: unable to save intermittent error

01-26-2000 08:15 PM in reply to: *Witkop-Staub, Robin
I have installed the new version of novell's client32 (3.2) and set my
ISAVEPERCENT back to 0. I have been testing for 4 days now with no errors -
knock on wood...

Robin Witkop-Staub wrote in message
<85joci$gfe16@adesknews2.autodesk.com>...
>I have 4 acad2000 users (all autocad installs are local) sharing files on a
>Novell 5.0 mapped drive. Windows 95 B on Compaq PII 300 networked
desktops.
>
>On occasion they will receive a error stating they cant save because the
>drawing is in use by another session. It creates a *.ac$ file and
procedes.
>Sometimes they perform a SAVE AS command to get out of this but it does not
>always work.
>
>All users have proper rights and access to the mapped drives. No other
>programs give access errors. The problem comes and goes and there are no
>other users in these drawing files. What is causing this error and is there
>a fix.
>
>
>
>
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