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*Lyons, Joseph
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Servers...

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12-06-1999 03:52 PM
<<< Message <82gm3b$7b213@adesknews2.autodesk.com> was originally posted to 'autodesk.autocad.2000general' on Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:54:46 -0500.>>>

I have a question about file/print servers... What are the min. requirements
for a file/print server... I have the following computer as my file and
print server:

p166
win 98se
32 megs of ram
13 gig HD / 5 gig free
4 meg video
4 gig / 8 gig tape back up

It is storing cad files for 6 people.... with a average of 20 megs a day
being added... I will need to a a new hd soon.... Any help would be nice...
I will understand If this post gets moved... but please tell me where it got
moved to....

Thanks Alot

Joseph Lyons
*Lyons, Joseph
Message 1 of 17 (174 Views)

Re: Servers...

12-06-1999 03:52 PM in reply to: *Lyons, Joseph
<<< Message <82gm9g$7bd9@adesknews2.autodesk.com> was originally posted to 'autodesk.autocad.2000general' on Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:57:59 -0500.>>>

I forgot to put that all of us are running stand alone AutoCAD 2000...

Thank You all

Joseph Lyons

"Joseph Lyons" wrote in message
news:82gm3b$7b213@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> I have a question about file/print servers... What are the min.
requirements
> for a file/print server... I have the following computer as my file and
> print server:
>
> p166
> win 98se
> 32 megs of ram
> 13 gig HD / 5 gig free
> 4 meg video
> 4 gig / 8 gig tape back up
>
> It is storing cad files for 6 people.... with a average of 20 megs a day
> being added... I will need to a a new hd soon.... Any help would be
nice...
> I will understand If this post gets moved... but please tell me where it
got
> moved to....
>
>
> Thanks Alot
>
> Joseph Lyons
>
>
*Allaire, Yves
Message 3 of 17 (174 Views)

Re: Servers...

12-07-1999 08:54 AM in reply to: *Lyons, Joseph
We had a file/print server (Pentium 133/128Mb) up to just recently, and was working fine, I must tell that it was (and still is) Windows NT 4.0
(We have 50 users)

I would increase the memory to 64Mb though, depending of the type of prints and file size, if you go to more that 64Mb consider upgrading to NT.

For 6 people your computer can be good enough for a while, if it's just for file/print sharing

Hope this helps.

Joseph Lyons wrote:

> <<< Message <82gm3b$7b213@adesknews2.autodesk.com> was originally posted to 'autodesk.autocad.2000general' on Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:54:46 -0500.>>>
>
> I have a question about file/print servers... What are the min. requirements
> for a file/print server... I have the following computer as my file and
> print server:
>
> p166
> win 98se
> 32 megs of ram
> 13 gig HD / 5 gig free
> 4 meg video
> 4 gig / 8 gig tape back up
>
> It is storing cad files for 6 people.... with a average of 20 megs a day
> being added... I will need to a a new hd soon.... Any help would be nice...
> I will understand If this post gets moved... but please tell me where it got
> moved to....
>
> Thanks Alot
>
> Joseph Lyons
*Lyons, Joseph
Message 4 of 17 (174 Views)

Re:

12-07-1999 10:28 AM in reply to: *Lyons, Joseph
Thanks....Kinda helps... It just seems like it crashes alot....

Thank You

Joseph Lyons

"Yves Allaire" wrote in message
news:384D3BDB.9CCA0AAE@lino.com...
> We had a file/print server (Pentium 133/128Mb) up to just recently, and
was working fine, I must tell that it was (and still is) Windows NT 4.0
> (We have 50 users)
>
> I would increase the memory to 64Mb though, depending of the type of
prints and file size, if you go to more that 64Mb consider upgrading to NT.
>
> For 6 people your computer can be good enough for a while, if it's just
for file/print sharing
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Joseph Lyons wrote:
>
> > <<< Message <82gm3b$7b213@adesknews2.autodesk.com> was originally posted
to 'autodesk.autocad.2000general' on Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:54:46 -0500.>>>
> >
> > I have a question about file/print servers... What are the min.
requirements
> > for a file/print server... I have the following computer as my file and
> > print server:
> >
> > p166
> > win 98se
> > 32 megs of ram
> > 13 gig HD / 5 gig free
> > 4 meg video
> > 4 gig / 8 gig tape back up
> >
> > It is storing cad files for 6 people.... with a average of 20 megs a day
> > being added... I will need to a a new hd soon.... Any help would be
nice...
> > I will understand If this post gets moved... but please tell me where it
got
> > moved to....
> >
> > Thanks Alot
> >
> > Joseph Lyons
>
*Allaire, Yves
Message 5 of 17 (174 Views)

Re:

12-08-1999 05:43 AM in reply to: *Lyons, Joseph
I don't know what's the ability of Win98 to act as a server, I would suggest to
upgrade to NT, our server never crashes, Just made a check, it's been running
for 344 hours now.

Did you run ScanDisk?
Or you might have a memory problem with "only" 32Mb

Hope this helps.

Joseph Lyons wrote:

> Thanks....Kinda helps... It just seems like it crashes alot....
>
> Thank You
>
> Joseph Lyons
>
> "Yves Allaire" wrote in message
> news:384D3BDB.9CCA0AAE@lino.com...
> > We had a file/print server (Pentium 133/128Mb) up to just recently, and
> was working fine, I must tell that it was (and still is) Windows NT 4.0
> > (We have 50 users)
> >
> > I would increase the memory to 64Mb though, depending of the type of
> prints and file size, if you go to more that 64Mb consider upgrading to NT.
> >
> > For 6 people your computer can be good enough for a while, if it's just
> for file/print sharing
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Joseph Lyons wrote:
> >
> > > <<< Message <82gm3b$7b213@adesknews2.autodesk.com> was originally posted
> to 'autodesk.autocad.2000general' on Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:54:46 -0500.>>>
> > >
> > > I have a question about file/print servers... What are the min.
> requirements
> > > for a file/print server... I have the following computer as my file and
> > > print server:
> > >
> > > p166
> > > win 98se
> > > 32 megs of ram
> > > 13 gig HD / 5 gig free
> > > 4 meg video
> > > 4 gig / 8 gig tape back up
> > >
> > > It is storing cad files for 6 people.... with a average of 20 megs a day
> > > being added... I will need to a a new hd soon.... Any help would be
> nice...
> > > I will understand If this post gets moved... but please tell me where it
> got
> > > moved to....
> > >
> > > Thanks Alot
> > >
> > > Joseph Lyons
> >
*Lyons, Joseph
Message 6 of 17 (174 Views)

Re:

12-08-1999 05:55 AM in reply to: *Lyons, Joseph
I just think It is under powered.... I wish I could go to a more powerful
machine but my company mis says it has enough power...

Thank You all For the help

Joseph Lyons

"Yves Allaire" wrote in message
news:384E608B.9B754585@lino.com...
> I don't know what's the ability of Win98 to act as a server, I would
suggest to
> upgrade to NT, our server never crashes, Just made a check, it's been
running
> for 344 hours now.
>
> Did you run ScanDisk?
> Or you might have a memory problem with "only" 32Mb
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Joseph Lyons wrote:
>
> > Thanks....Kinda helps... It just seems like it crashes alot....
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> > Joseph Lyons
> >
> > "Yves Allaire" wrote in message
> > news:384D3BDB.9CCA0AAE@lino.com...
> > > We had a file/print server (Pentium 133/128Mb) up to just recently,
and
> > was working fine, I must tell that it was (and still is) Windows NT 4.0
> > > (We have 50 users)
> > >
> > > I would increase the memory to 64Mb though, depending of the type of
> > prints and file size, if you go to more that 64Mb consider upgrading to
NT.
> > >
> > > For 6 people your computer can be good enough for a while, if it's
just
> > for file/print sharing
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Joseph Lyons wrote:
> > >
> > > > <<< Message <82gm3b$7b213@adesknews2.autodesk.com> was originally
posted
> > to 'autodesk.autocad.2000general' on Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:54:46 -0500.>>>
> > > >
> > > > I have a question about file/print servers... What are the min.
> > requirements
> > > > for a file/print server... I have the following computer as my file
and
> > > > print server:
> > > >
> > > > p166
> > > > win 98se
> > > > 32 megs of ram
> > > > 13 gig HD / 5 gig free
> > > > 4 meg video
> > > > 4 gig / 8 gig tape back up
> > > >
> > > > It is storing cad files for 6 people.... with a average of 20 megs a
day
> > > > being added... I will need to a a new hd soon.... Any help would be
> > nice...
> > > > I will understand If this post gets moved... but please tell me
where it
> > got
> > > > moved to....
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Alot
> > > >
> > > > Joseph Lyons
> > >
>
*Allaire, Yves
Message 7 of 17 (174 Views)

Re:

12-08-1999 05:55 AM in reply to: *Lyons, Joseph
Yep, but 64Mb of memory IS cheap...

32 is really not a lot for a server!

Good Luck.

Joseph Lyons wrote:

> I just think It is under powered.... I wish I could go to a more powerful
> machine but my company mis says it has enough power...
>
> Thank You all For the help
>
> Joseph Lyons
>
> "Yves Allaire" wrote in message
> news:384E608B.9B754585@lino.com...
> > I don't know what's the ability of Win98 to act as a server, I would
> suggest to
> > upgrade to NT, our server never crashes, Just made a check, it's been
> running
> > for 344 hours now.
> >
> > Did you run ScanDisk?
> > Or you might have a memory problem with "only" 32Mb
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Joseph Lyons wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks....Kinda helps... It just seems like it crashes alot....
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > >
> > > Joseph Lyons
> > >
> > > "Yves Allaire" wrote in message
> > > news:384D3BDB.9CCA0AAE@lino.com...
> > > > We had a file/print server (Pentium 133/128Mb) up to just recently,
> and
> > > was working fine, I must tell that it was (and still is) Windows NT 4.0
> > > > (We have 50 users)
> > > >
> > > > I would increase the memory to 64Mb though, depending of the type of
> > > prints and file size, if you go to more that 64Mb consider upgrading to
> NT.
> > > >
> > > > For 6 people your computer can be good enough for a while, if it's
> just
> > > for file/print sharing
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > > Joseph Lyons wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > <<< Message <82gm3b$7b213@adesknews2.autodesk.com> was originally
> posted
> > > to 'autodesk.autocad.2000general' on Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:54:46 -0500.>>>
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a question about file/print servers... What are the min.
> > > requirements
> > > > > for a file/print server... I have the following computer as my file
> and
> > > > > print server:
> > > > >
> > > > > p166
> > > > > win 98se
> > > > > 32 megs of ram
> > > > > 13 gig HD / 5 gig free
> > > > > 4 meg video
> > > > > 4 gig / 8 gig tape back up
> > > > >
> > > > > It is storing cad files for 6 people.... with a average of 20 megs a
> day
> > > > > being added... I will need to a a new hd soon.... Any help would be
> > > nice...
> > > > > I will understand If this post gets moved... but please tell me
> where it
> > > got
> > > > > moved to....
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Alot
> > > > >
> > > > > Joseph Lyons
> > > >
> >
*Nehls, Kevin
Message 8 of 17 (174 Views)

Re:

12-08-1999 10:35 AM in reply to: *Lyons, Joseph
I don't believe that your file/print server is under powered. I'm with
Yves on this. Win98 is not designed nor is it efficient at performing
these types of activities. I would definitely add another 32 MBs of RAM
and change the Operating System to Win NT.

If you don't need a full blown server that acts as a domain controller and
you don't plan on moving away from your peer-to-peer type network, then NT
workstation would be appropriate for $300 less than server. Doing this
would give you the stability and security (if you want to implement that)
of NT. You should be able to pick up a copy of workstation for $300.
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Yves Allaire wrote in article
<384E634A.BF50806@lino.com>...
> Yep, but 64Mb of memory IS cheap...
>
> 32 is really not a lot for a server!
>
> Good Luck.
>
*Pownall, Lori Beckett
Message 9 of 17 (174 Views)

Re:

12-08-1999 10:52 AM in reply to: *Lyons, Joseph
A 166 machine is fine for a server, I have two running here now. However, an
increase in the memory seems to be needed if it's crashing regularly and also an
upgrade to NT seems a MUST for a server for the added security and management
functionality. Invest your money on those two things and you will see a vast
improvement in performance.

Regards,
Lori
----------------------------
Lori Beckett Pownall
EE CAD Group Leader
Jefferson Lab
12000 Jefferson Ave. MS5A
Newport News, VA. 23606
(757)269-7332 FAX (757) 269-5520

Joseph Lyons wrote:

> I just think It is under powered.... I wish I could go to a more powerful
> machine but my company mis says it has enough power...
>
> Thank You all For the help
>
> Joseph Lyons
>
> "Yves Allaire" wrote in message
> news:384E608B.9B754585@lino.com...
> > I don't know what's the ability of Win98 to act as a server, I would
> suggest to
> > upgrade to NT, our server never crashes, Just made a check, it's been
> running
> > for 344 hours now.
> >
> > Did you run ScanDisk?
> > Or you might have a memory problem with "only" 32Mb
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Joseph Lyons wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks....Kinda helps... It just seems like it crashes alot....
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > >
> > > Joseph Lyons
> > >
> > > "Yves Allaire" wrote in message
> > > news:384D3BDB.9CCA0AAE@lino.com...
> > > > We had a file/print server (Pentium 133/128Mb) up to just recently,
> and
> > > was working fine, I must tell that it was (and still is) Windows NT 4.0
> > > > (We have 50 users)
> > > >
> > > > I would increase the memory to 64Mb though, depending of the type of
> > > prints and file size, if you go to more that 64Mb consider upgrading to
> NT.
> > > >
> > > > For 6 people your computer can be good enough for a while, if it's
> just
> > > for file/print sharing
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > > Joseph Lyons wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > <<< Message <82gm3b$7b213@adesknews2.autodesk.com> was originally
> posted
> > > to 'autodesk.autocad.2000general' on Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:54:46 -0500.>>>
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a question about file/print servers... What are the min.
> > > requirements
> > > > > for a file/print server... I have the following computer as my file
> and
> > > > > print server:
> > > > >
> > > > > p166
> > > > > win 98se
> > > > > 32 megs of ram
> > > > > 13 gig HD / 5 gig free
> > > > > 4 meg video
> > > > > 4 gig / 8 gig tape back up
> > > > >
> > > > > It is storing cad files for 6 people.... with a average of 20 megs a
> day
> > > > > being added... I will need to a a new hd soon.... Any help would be
> > > nice...
> > > > > I will understand If this post gets moved... but please tell me
> where it
> > > got
> > > > > moved to....
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Alot
> > > > >
> > > > > Joseph Lyons
> > > >
> >
*Lyons, Joseph
Message 10 of 17 (174 Views)

Re:

12-08-1999 01:06 PM in reply to: *Lyons, Joseph
Thanks for all of the info... I doubt it will happen, but thanks for the
help... The reason I say the computer is under powered is I and my coworkers
have file sizes starting in the 5 meg size up to 20 megs.... I think I have
narrowed down the crashes to 2 things... 1) my tape backup or 2) The actual
physical network it self... The ram has somewhat to do with it.... Being
that it has a 1.2 gig swap file....

Thanks Again for all the help and input from all

Joseph Lyons

"Lori Beckett Pownall" wrote in message
news:384EA8D6.73699D4B@jlab.org...
> A 166 machine is fine for a server, I have two running here now. However,
an
> increase in the memory seems to be needed if it's crashing regularly and
also an
> upgrade to NT seems a MUST for a server for the added security and
management
> functionality. Invest your money on those two things and you will see a
vast
> improvement in performance.
>
> Regards,
> Lori
> ----------------------------
> Lori Beckett Pownall
> EE CAD Group Leader
> Jefferson Lab
> 12000 Jefferson Ave. MS5A
> Newport News, VA. 23606
> (757)269-7332 FAX (757) 269-5520
>
> Joseph Lyons wrote:
>
> > I just think It is under powered.... I wish I could go to a more
powerful
> > machine but my company mis says it has enough power...
> >
> > Thank You all For the help
> >
> > Joseph Lyons
> >
> > "Yves Allaire" wrote in message
> > news:384E608B.9B754585@lino.com...
> > > I don't know what's the ability of Win98 to act as a server, I would
> > suggest to
> > > upgrade to NT, our server never crashes, Just made a check, it's been
> > running
> > > for 344 hours now.
> > >
> > > Did you run ScanDisk?
> > > Or you might have a memory problem with "only" 32Mb
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Joseph Lyons wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks....Kinda helps... It just seems like it crashes alot....
> > > >
> > > > Thank You
> > > >
> > > > Joseph Lyons
> > > >
> > > > "Yves Allaire" wrote in message
> > > > news:384D3BDB.9CCA0AAE@lino.com...
> > > > > We had a file/print server (Pentium 133/128Mb) up to just
recently,
> > and
> > > > was working fine, I must tell that it was (and still is) Windows NT
4.0
> > > > > (We have 50 users)
> > > > >
> > > > > I would increase the memory to 64Mb though, depending of the type
of
> > > > prints and file size, if you go to more that 64Mb consider upgrading
to
> > NT.
> > > > >
> > > > > For 6 people your computer can be good enough for a while, if
it's
> > just
> > > > for file/print sharing
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joseph Lyons wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > <<< Message <82gm3b$7b213@adesknews2.autodesk.com> was
originally
> > posted
> > > > to 'autodesk.autocad.2000general' on Mon, 6 Dec 1999
10:54:46 -0500.>>>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a question about file/print servers... What are the min.
> > > > requirements
> > > > > > for a file/print server... I have the following computer as my
file
> > and
> > > > > > print server:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > p166
> > > > > > win 98se
> > > > > > 32 megs of ram
> > > > > > 13 gig HD / 5 gig free
> > > > > > 4 meg video
> > > > > > 4 gig / 8 gig tape back up
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is storing cad files for 6 people.... with a average of 20
megs a
> > day
> > > > > > being added... I will need to a a new hd soon.... Any help would
be
> > > > nice...
> > > > > > I will understand If this post gets moved... but please tell me
> > where it
> > > > got
> > > > > > moved to....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Alot
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joseph Lyons
> > > > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
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