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Anonymous
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Redundant server

Franck -

Autodesk did not delete you post (at least on purpose). The news server has been eating itself over the last few days.

Below is my original response. It's not much help, but it's a response????

Very good question, and unfortunately I don't have a definitive answer, but here's my best guess:

Okay, my initial guess was that No, you can't do this.
My current opinion is "Well, Idunno".

When I first saw your question I didn't remember there being any type of a "distributed" server model supported by Flex, but after
checking the documentation again I've found that you can get "Redundancy via License File List". Now, what I'm not sure about is
whether or not the adlm will even support this since they are using the license using services rather than license using file
implementation of the FlexLM.

I don't know how exactly the License file list reacts to different situations either. The Elan adlm asked the first adlm server that
it found if it could have a license. If the server said No, then it quit asking for licenses. Even if there was another server
sitting right next to it with 100 license available, if the first one said I don't have one, the license query fails. Does the
FlexLM act similarly??? I don't know. It could try the next server on the list on an initial failure, or it could report failure and
die.

It is possible to do at least part of what you want with Flex, but I don't know if Autodesk supports it.

Sorry I'm not more help. Maybe one of the 'desk guys will jump in here and help me out???


jason martin
frankfurt-short-bruza


> Excuse me to send you directly this message but i want to
> know if i'm the
> only that can't see a message that i posted the 18/10. You
> reply to this
> message.
> Did autodesk delete message or have they problem with some servers?
>
> Is it possible to have in the licpath.lic redundant server
> and distributed
> server.
> First the client goes search licence in the redundant server
> and if it can't
> have a licence it goes on the distributed server.
>
> Can i have this type of licpath.lic :
>
> SERVER PC54321 210987654321 27005
> SERVER PC12345 123456789012 27005
> SERVER PC54321 321543210981 27005
> SERVER PC24512 567890123456
> USE_SERVER
> VENDOR adskflex port=2080
> INCREMENT 41100ACD_2002_0F adskflex 1.000 permanent 3 \
> VENDOR_STRING=commercial:permanent SUPERSEDE DUP_GROUP=H \
> ISSUED=22-jan-2001 ck=346 SN=399-99999999 SIGN=FE311B4A0B40
>
>
> Thanks for all.
> Best regards.
>
> Franck Hervet
> Responsable Informatique



"Franck Hervet" wrote in message news:84E9F7F35711EA8F16BB7ACA07BAFFBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Is it possible to have in the licpath.lic redundant server and distributed
> server.
> First the client goes search licence in the redundant server and if it can't
> have a licence it goes on the distributed server.
>
> Can i have this type of licpath.lic :
>
> SERVER PC54321 210987654321 27005
> SERVER PC12345 123456789012 27005
> SERVER PC54321 321543210981 27005
> SERVER PC24512 567890123456
> USE_SERVER
> VENDOR adskflex port=2080
> INCREMENT 41100ACD_2002_0F adskflex 1.000 permanent 3 \
> VENDOR_STRING=commercial:permanent SUPERSEDE DUP_GROUP=H \
> ISSUED=22-jan-2001 ck=346 SN=399-99999999 SIGN=FE311B4A0B40
>
>
>
>
>
5 REPLIES 5
Message 2 of 6
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Jason, Franck,

See my post from 10/19/2001 on this thread.

jerry (one of the 'desk guys)


"jason martin" wrote in message
news:11204AFEF6E4B249F88693E51BB1D58A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Franck -
>
> Autodesk did not delete you post (at least on purpose). The news server
has been eating itself over the last few days.
>
> Below is my original response. It's not much help, but it's a response????
>
> Very good question, and unfortunately I don't have a definitive answer,
but here's my best guess:
>
> Okay, my initial guess was that No, you can't do this.
> My current opinion is "Well, Idunno".
>
> When I first saw your question I didn't remember there being any type of a
"distributed" server model supported by Flex, but after
> checking the documentation again I've found that you can get "Redundancy
via License File List". Now, what I'm not sure about is
> whether or not the adlm will even support this since they are using the
license using services rather than license using file
> implementation of the FlexLM.
>
> I don't know how exactly the License file list reacts to different
situations either. The Elan adlm asked the first adlm server that
> it found if it could have a license. If the server said No, then it quit
asking for licenses. Even if there was another server
> sitting right next to it with 100 license available, if the first one said
I don't have one, the license query fails. Does the
> FlexLM act similarly??? I don't know. It could try the next server on the
list on an initial failure, or it could report failure and
> die.
>
> It is possible to do at least part of what you want with Flex, but I don't
know if Autodesk supports it.
>
> Sorry I'm not more help. Maybe one of the 'desk guys will jump in here and
help me out???
>
>
> jason martin
> frankfurt-short-bruza
>
>
> > Excuse me to send you directly this message but i want to
> > know if i'm the
> > only that can't see a message that i posted the 18/10. You
> > reply to this
> > message.
> > Did autodesk delete message or have they problem with some servers?
> >
> > Is it possible to have in the licpath.lic redundant server
> > and distributed
> > server.
> > First the client goes search licence in the redundant server
> > and if it can't
> > have a licence it goes on the distributed server.
> >
> > Can i have this type of licpath.lic :
> >
> > SERVER PC54321 210987654321 27005
> > SERVER PC12345 123456789012 27005
> > SERVER PC54321 321543210981 27005
> > SERVER PC24512 567890123456
> > USE_SERVER
> > VENDOR adskflex port=2080
> > INCREMENT 41100ACD_2002_0F adskflex 1.000 permanent 3 \
> > VENDOR_STRING=commercial:permanent SUPERSEDE DUP_GROUP=H \
> > ISSUED=22-jan-2001 ck=346 SN=399-99999999 SIGN=FE311B4A0B40
> >
> >
> > Thanks for all.
> > Best regards.
> >
> > Franck Hervet
> > Responsable Informatique
>

>
>
> "Franck Hervet" wrote in message
news:84E9F7F35711EA8F16BB7ACA07BAFFBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Is it possible to have in the licpath.lic redundant server and
distributed
> > server.
> > First the client goes search licence in the redundant server and if it
can't
> > have a licence it goes on the distributed server.
> >
> > Can i have this type of licpath.lic :
> >
> > SERVER PC54321 210987654321 27005
> > SERVER PC12345 123456789012 27005
> > SERVER PC54321 321543210981 27005
> > SERVER PC24512 567890123456
> > USE_SERVER
> > VENDOR adskflex port=2080
> > INCREMENT 41100ACD_2002_0F adskflex 1.000 permanent 3 \
> > VENDOR_STRING=commercial:permanent SUPERSEDE DUP_GROUP=H \
> > ISSUED=22-jan-2001 ck=346 SN=399-99999999 SIGN=FE311B4A0B40
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 3 of 6
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Jerry -
Very good to hear from you again.

I've unsubscribed / re-subscribed from the ng and I can't see your response to the thread that titled "Redundant server" started by
Franck on the 18th. I see a response on a thread titled "Redundant servers" by Bono (started the 17th), but nothing of this original
thread seems to exist.

I think that Franck's original post was "lost" in the server mishap. There are a few posts in my sent items folder that are not
showing up here as well.

jason martin
frankfurt-short-bruza

"jerry milana" wrote in message news:CA2C4160EB99F9AA6DB40ABD620B3B79@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Jason, Franck,
>
> See my post from 10/19/2001 on this thread.
>
> jerry (one of the 'desk guys)
>
>
> "jason martin" wrote in message
> news:11204AFEF6E4B249F88693E51BB1D58A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Franck -
> >
> > Autodesk did not delete you post (at least on purpose). The news server
> has been eating itself over the last few days.
> >
> > Below is my original response. It's not much help, but it's a response????
> >
> > Very good question, and unfortunately I don't have a definitive answer,
> but here's my best guess:
> >
> > Okay, my initial guess was that No, you can't do this.
> > My current opinion is "Well, Idunno".
> >
> > When I first saw your question I didn't remember there being any type of a
> "distributed" server model supported by Flex, but after
> > checking the documentation again I've found that you can get "Redundancy
> via License File List". Now, what I'm not sure about is
> > whether or not the adlm will even support this since they are using the
> license using services rather than license using file
> > implementation of the FlexLM.
> >
> > I don't know how exactly the License file list reacts to different
> situations either. The Elan adlm asked the first adlm server that
> > it found if it could have a license. If the server said No, then it quit
> asking for licenses. Even if there was another server
> > sitting right next to it with 100 license available, if the first one said
> I don't have one, the license query fails. Does the
> > FlexLM act similarly??? I don't know. It could try the next server on the
> list on an initial failure, or it could report failure and
> > die.
> >
> > It is possible to do at least part of what you want with Flex, but I don't
> know if Autodesk supports it.
> >
> > Sorry I'm not more help. Maybe one of the 'desk guys will jump in here and
> help me out???
> >
> >
> > jason martin
> > frankfurt-short-bruza
> >
> >
> > > Excuse me to send you directly this message but i want to
> > > know if i'm the
> > > only that can't see a message that i posted the 18/10. You
> > > reply to this
> > > message.
> > > Did autodesk delete message or have they problem with some servers?
> > >
> > > Is it possible to have in the licpath.lic redundant server
> > > and distributed
> > > server.
> > > First the client goes search licence in the redundant server
> > > and if it can't
> > > have a licence it goes on the distributed server.
> > >
> > > Can i have this type of licpath.lic :
> > >
> > > SERVER PC54321 210987654321 27005
> > > SERVER PC12345 123456789012 27005
> > > SERVER PC54321 321543210981 27005
> > > SERVER PC24512 567890123456
> > > USE_SERVER
> > > VENDOR adskflex port=2080
> > > INCREMENT 41100ACD_2002_0F adskflex 1.000 permanent 3 \
> > > VENDOR_STRING=commercial:permanent SUPERSEDE DUP_GROUP=H \
> > > ISSUED=22-jan-2001 ck=346 SN=399-99999999 SIGN=FE311B4A0B40
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for all.
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > > Franck Hervet
> > > Responsable Informatique
> >

> >
> >
> > "Franck Hervet" wrote in message
> news:84E9F7F35711EA8F16BB7ACA07BAFFBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Is it possible to have in the licpath.lic redundant server and
> distributed
> > > server.
> > > First the client goes search licence in the redundant server and if it
> can't
> > > have a licence it goes on the distributed server.
> > >
> > > Can i have this type of licpath.lic :
> > >
> > > SERVER PC54321 210987654321 27005
> > > SERVER PC12345 123456789012 27005
> > > SERVER PC54321 321543210981 27005
> > > SERVER PC24512 567890123456
> > > USE_SERVER
> > > VENDOR adskflex port=2080
> > > INCREMENT 41100ACD_2002_0F adskflex 1.000 permanent 3 \
> > > VENDOR_STRING=commercial:permanent SUPERSEDE DUP_GROUP=H \
> > > ISSUED=22-jan-2001 ck=346 SN=399-99999999 SIGN=FE311B4A0B40
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 4 of 6
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hi jerry,

I'd like to see your post but it didn't exist.
Can you post your answer again on this thread.

Thanks.

"jerry milana" a écrit dans le message news:
CA2C4160EB99F9AA6DB40ABD620B3B79@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Jason, Franck,
>
> See my post from 10/19/2001 on this thread.
>
> jerry (one of the 'desk guys)
>
>
> "jason martin" wrote in message
> news:11204AFEF6E4B249F88693E51BB1D58A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Franck -
> >
> > Autodesk did not delete you post (at least on purpose). The news server
> has been eating itself over the last few days.
> >
> > Below is my original response. It's not much help, but it's a
response????
> >
> > Very good question, and unfortunately I don't have a definitive answer,
> but here's my best guess:
> >
> > Okay, my initial guess was that No, you can't do this.
> > My current opinion is "Well, Idunno".
> >
> > When I first saw your question I didn't remember there being any type of
a
> "distributed" server model supported by Flex, but after
> > checking the documentation again I've found that you can get "Redundancy
> via License File List". Now, what I'm not sure about is
> > whether or not the adlm will even support this since they are using the
> license using services rather than license using file
> > implementation of the FlexLM.
> >
> > I don't know how exactly the License file list reacts to different
> situations either. The Elan adlm asked the first adlm server that
> > it found if it could have a license. If the server said No, then it quit
> asking for licenses. Even if there was another server
> > sitting right next to it with 100 license available, if the first one
said
> I don't have one, the license query fails. Does the
> > FlexLM act similarly??? I don't know. It could try the next server on
the
> list on an initial failure, or it could report failure and
> > die.
> >
> > It is possible to do at least part of what you want with Flex, but I
don't
> know if Autodesk supports it.
> >
> > Sorry I'm not more help. Maybe one of the 'desk guys will jump in here
and
> help me out???
> >
> >
> > jason martin
> > frankfurt-short-bruza
> >
> >
> > > Excuse me to send you directly this message but i want to
> > > know if i'm the
> > > only that can't see a message that i posted the 18/10. You
> > > reply to this
> > > message.
> > > Did autodesk delete message or have they problem with some servers?
> > >
> > > Is it possible to have in the licpath.lic redundant server
> > > and distributed
> > > server.
> > > First the client goes search licence in the redundant server
> > > and if it can't
> > > have a licence it goes on the distributed server.
> > >
> > > Can i have this type of licpath.lic :
> > >
> > > SERVER PC54321 210987654321 27005
> > > SERVER PC12345 123456789012 27005
> > > SERVER PC54321 321543210981 27005
> > > SERVER PC24512 567890123456
> > > USE_SERVER
> > > VENDOR adskflex port=2080
> > > INCREMENT 41100ACD_2002_0F adskflex 1.000 permanent 3 \
> > > VENDOR_STRING=commercial:permanent SUPERSEDE DUP_GROUP=H \
> > > ISSUED=22-jan-2001 ck=346 SN=399-99999999 SIGN=FE311B4A0B40
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for all.
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > > Franck Hervet
> > > Responsable Informatique
> >

> >
> >
> > "Franck Hervet" wrote in message
> news:84E9F7F35711EA8F16BB7ACA07BAFFBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Is it possible to have in the licpath.lic redundant server and
> distributed
> > > server.
> > > First the client goes search licence in the redundant server and if it
> can't
> > > have a licence it goes on the distributed server.
> > >
> > > Can i have this type of licpath.lic :
> > >
> > > SERVER PC54321 210987654321 27005
> > > SERVER PC12345 123456789012 27005
> > > SERVER PC54321 321543210981 27005
> > > SERVER PC24512 567890123456
> > > USE_SERVER
> > > VENDOR adskflex port=2080
> > > INCREMENT 41100ACD_2002_0F adskflex 1.000 permanent 3 \
> > > VENDOR_STRING=commercial:permanent SUPERSEDE DUP_GROUP=H \
> > > ISSUED=22-jan-2001 ck=346 SN=399-99999999 SIGN=FE311B4A0B40
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 5 of 6
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Franck,

Sorry, I had posts of the same name confused. I had never seen or replied
to your message, but I will now.

This will not work. You have to decide between redundant and distributed
models. This is because FLEXlm will behave differently depending on how you
point to multiple servers. If you use LICPATH.LIC, the first denial of a
license will end the search for a license server. This is why it is used in
redundant server model. When you set the multi server list in the
LM_LICENSE_FILE variable each request will be allowed to time out and then
try the next server, this delay can cause problems in redundant models.

I strongly encourage you to go the distributed route. The distributed model
is easier to maintain and offers fault tolerance of some network problems.
Redundant server operation relies on flawless communication among all the
servers.

jerry

"Franck Hervet" wrote in message
news:C422F3921745AF3651A61997B226FC39@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi jerry,
>
> I'd like to see your post but it didn't exist.
> Can you post your answer again on this thread.
>
> Thanks.
>
> "jerry milana" a écrit dans le message news:
> CA2C4160EB99F9AA6DB40ABD620B3B79@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Jason, Franck,
> >
> > See my post from 10/19/2001 on this thread.
> >
> > jerry (one of the 'desk guys)
> >
> >
> > "jason martin" wrote in message
> > news:11204AFEF6E4B249F88693E51BB1D58A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Franck -
> > >
> > > Autodesk did not delete you post (at least on purpose). The news
server
> > has been eating itself over the last few days.
> > >
> > > Below is my original response. It's not much help, but it's a
> response????
> > >
> > > Very good question, and unfortunately I don't have a definitive
answer,
> > but here's my best guess:
> > >
> > > Okay, my initial guess was that No, you can't do this.
> > > My current opinion is "Well, Idunno".
> > >
> > > When I first saw your question I didn't remember there being any type
of
> a
> > "distributed" server model supported by Flex, but after
> > > checking the documentation again I've found that you can get
"Redundancy
> > via License File List". Now, what I'm not sure about is
> > > whether or not the adlm will even support this since they are using
the
> > license using services rather than license using file
> > > implementation of the FlexLM.
> > >
> > > I don't know how exactly the License file list reacts to different
> > situations either. The Elan adlm asked the first adlm server that
> > > it found if it could have a license. If the server said No, then it
quit
> > asking for licenses. Even if there was another server
> > > sitting right next to it with 100 license available, if the first one
> said
> > I don't have one, the license query fails. Does the
> > > FlexLM act similarly??? I don't know. It could try the next server on
> the
> > list on an initial failure, or it could report failure and
> > > die.
> > >
> > > It is possible to do at least part of what you want with Flex, but I
> don't
> > know if Autodesk supports it.
> > >
> > > Sorry I'm not more help. Maybe one of the 'desk guys will jump in here
> and
> > help me out???
> > >
> > >
> > > jason martin
> > > frankfurt-short-bruza
> > >
> > >
> > > > Excuse me to send you directly this message but i want to
> > > > know if i'm the
> > > > only that can't see a message that i posted the 18/10. You
> > > > reply to this
> > > > message.
> > > > Did autodesk delete message or have they problem with some servers?
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible to have in the licpath.lic redundant server
> > > > and distributed
> > > > server.
> > > > First the client goes search licence in the redundant server
> > > > and if it can't
> > > > have a licence it goes on the distributed server.
> > > >
> > > > Can i have this type of licpath.lic :
> > > >
> > > > SERVER PC54321 210987654321 27005
> > > > SERVER PC12345 123456789012 27005
> > > > SERVER PC54321 321543210981 27005
> > > > SERVER PC24512 567890123456
> > > > USE_SERVER
> > > > VENDOR adskflex port=2080
> > > > INCREMENT 41100ACD_2002_0F adskflex 1.000 permanent 3 \
> > > > VENDOR_STRING=commercial:permanent SUPERSEDE DUP_GROUP=H \
> > > > ISSUED=22-jan-2001 ck=346 SN=399-99999999 SIGN=FE311B4A0B40
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for all.
> > > > Best regards.
> > > >
> > > > Franck Hervet
> > > > Responsable Informatique
> > >

> > >
> > >
> > > "Franck Hervet" wrote in message
> > news:84E9F7F35711EA8F16BB7ACA07BAFFBF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Is it possible to have in the licpath.lic redundant server and
> > distributed
> > > > server.
> > > > First the client goes search licence in the redundant server and if
it
> > can't
> > > > have a licence it goes on the distributed server.
> > > >
> > > > Can i have this type of licpath.lic :
> > > >
> > > > SERVER PC54321 210987654321 27005
> > > > SERVER PC12345 123456789012 27005
> > > > SERVER PC54321 321543210981 27005
> > > > SERVER PC24512 567890123456
> > > > USE_SERVER
> > > > VENDOR adskflex port=2080
> > > > INCREMENT 41100ACD_2002_0F adskflex 1.000 permanent 3 \
> > > > VENDOR_STRING=commercial:permanent SUPERSEDE DUP_GROUP=H \
> > > > ISSUED=22-jan-2001 ck=346 SN=399-99999999 SIGN=FE311B4A0B40
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 6 of 6
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Jerry -

Great to see you here! There were posts lost from the 17th and
18th during this week's server outage. I doubt they will or can
be restored.

Anne

jerry milana wrote:
>
> Jason, Franck,
>
> See my post from 10/19/2001 on this thread.(snip)

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