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*Skunza, Andy
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questions about network cfg

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04-12-2000 03:58 PM
Here are some (maybe stupid) questions:

Why can't all the prefences/config settings be kept in an acad.ini (or maybe
acad.ini, printers.ini, and tablet.ini) file instead of some things in the
registry and some things in profiles? This makes applying network users
settings very awkward. I would think that in a network a user should be
able to sit down at any machine, log in, start autocad and (without doing
anything) have all the same settings ie, toolbars/menus/printers/tablet...
This would be easy if all settings were stored in text files.

If profiles are for the config settings, why is pc2 information in
acad14.cfg?

In the network version, how do I get my profile of choice to be the default
profile on a new client install?

Why can't I change where the acad14.cfg variable points in the config
settings? I see that it can be changed with a command line switch, but that
doesn't work with drawings launched from explorer. I read a support article
that describes a registry change to get this to work, but it didn't. Even
if it did, this "solution" would have to be done for each client.

What is the benefit, besides floating licenses, of a network version if the
program is so heavily tied to a workstation (via windows registry)?

Thanks for any answers,
--
Andrew Skunza
Runway Sweeper
askunza@dynamix-ltd.com

--
Andrew Skunza
Runway Sweeper
askunza@dynamix-ltd.com
*Diercks, Skip
Message 2 of 4 (269 Views)

Re: questions about network cfg

04-13-2000 06:30 AM in reply to: *Skunza, Andy
Andy,
Please find some answers within the body of your message.

Andy Skunza wrote in message
news:eefee1a.-1@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> Here are some (maybe stupid) questions:
>
> Why can't all the prefences/config settings be kept in an acad.ini (or
maybe
> acad.ini, printers.ini, and tablet.ini) file instead of some things in the
> registry and some things in profiles? This makes applying network users
> settings very awkward. I would think that in a network a user should be
> able to sit down at any machine, log in, start autocad and (without doing
> anything) have all the same settings ie, toolbars/menus/printers/tablet...
> This would be easy if all settings were stored in text files.

The profiles are the information in the registry. If you use floating
profiles with NT, a user would have all his settings without needing to
import his custom .ARG everytime he uses a different machine. I have found
the use of profiles/registry entries to be very beneficial.

> If profiles are for the config settings, why is pc2 information in
> acad14.cfg?

It appears that the only thing stored in the .CFG file now is the plotter
information. Unfortunately, I have not found a way to share this file from
the server because AutoCAD tries to write to it to much.

> In the network version, how do I get my profile of choice to be the
default
> profile on a new client install?

That's a good question. I didn't even bother trying that yet. At first
thought, I am going to look into a reg hack file to accomplish this for my
users. It might be easier than the training I put together to get them
started.

> Why can't I change where the acad14.cfg variable points in the config
> settings? I see that it can be changed with a command line switch, but
that
> doesn't work with drawings launched from explorer. I read a support
article
> that describes a registry change to get this to work, but it didn't. Even
> if it did, this "solution" would have to be done for each client.

Reghack will work here.
\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\AutoCAD.Drawing.14\shell\open\command.
Set default to add the command line switch to allow where the acad14.cfg is
when you launch the drawing from explorer. Should look like this:
"C:\Program Files\ACADR14\acad.exe" /c d:\wherever "%1"

> What is the benefit, besides floating licenses, of a network version if
the
> program is so heavily tied to a workstation (via windows registry)?

The biggest benefit is definately the floating license thing in my opinion
and is a great need for my situation. Corporately, we have been able to
save a lot of money on license that get minimal use. We have been able to
load AutoCAD in offices that don't have heavy AutoCAD use and pull the
license from another office via the WAN. We have very little tied to our
workstations. Yes the registry thing is there, but with roaming profiles,
those aren't on the workstation. The only thing that I actually use from
the workstation load is the ACAD.EXE file. Just about everything else is on
the server and being pointed to via the registry.

I hope that this helps you out a bit, let me know how it goes.

--
Skip Diercks
Computer Support Specialist
Wade-Trim, Inc.
517.732.3584
sdiercks@wadetrim.com
*Skunza, Andy
Message 3 of 4 (269 Views)

Re:

04-13-2000 08:14 AM in reply to: *Skunza, Andy
Skip,

Thanks for the help! We are running win98 clients and I haven't yet tried
roaming profiles. Does the entire registry follow the user? I just wish
the registry didn't have to be involved!

Your note on the reghack worked for me... the various ways I tried all had
the switch in quotes.

Thanks again,
--
Andrew Skunza
Runway Sweeper
askunza@dynamix-ltd.com

"Skip Diercks" wrote in message
news:eefee1a.0@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> Andy,
> Please find some answers within the body of your message.
>
> Andy Skunza wrote in message
> news:eefee1a.-1@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > Here are some (maybe stupid) questions:
> >
> > Why can't all the prefences/config settings be kept in an acad.ini (or
> maybe
> > acad.ini, printers.ini, and tablet.ini) file instead of some things in
the
> > registry and some things in profiles? This makes applying network users
> > settings very awkward. I would think that in a network a user should be
> > able to sit down at any machine, log in, start autocad and (without
doing
> > anything) have all the same settings ie,
toolbars/menus/printers/tablet...
> > This would be easy if all settings were stored in text files.
>
> The profiles are the information in the registry. If you use floating
> profiles with NT, a user would have all his settings without needing to
> import his custom .ARG everytime he uses a different machine. I have
found
> the use of profiles/registry entries to be very beneficial.
>
> > If profiles are for the config settings, why is pc2 information in
> > acad14.cfg?
>
> It appears that the only thing stored in the .CFG file now is the plotter
> information. Unfortunately, I have not found a way to share this file
from
> the server because AutoCAD tries to write to it to much.
>
> > In the network version, how do I get my profile of choice to be the
> default
> > profile on a new client install?
>
> That's a good question. I didn't even bother trying that yet. At first
> thought, I am going to look into a reg hack file to accomplish this for my
> users. It might be easier than the training I put together to get them
> started.
>
> > Why can't I change where the acad14.cfg variable points in the config
> > settings? I see that it can be changed with a command line switch, but
> that
> > doesn't work with drawings launched from explorer. I read a support
> article
> > that describes a registry change to get this to work, but it didn't.
Even
> > if it did, this "solution" would have to be done for each client.
>
> Reghack will work here.
>
\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\AutoCAD.Drawing.14\shell\open\command.
> Set default to add the command line switch to allow where the acad14.cfg
is
> when you launch the drawing from explorer. Should look like this:
> "C:\Program Files\ACADR14\acad.exe" /c d:\wherever "%1"
>
> > What is the benefit, besides floating licenses, of a network version if
> the
> > program is so heavily tied to a workstation (via windows registry)?
>
> The biggest benefit is definately the floating license thing in my opinion
> and is a great need for my situation. Corporately, we have been able to
> save a lot of money on license that get minimal use. We have been able to
> load AutoCAD in offices that don't have heavy AutoCAD use and pull the
> license from another office via the WAN. We have very little tied to our
> workstations. Yes the registry thing is there, but with roaming profiles,
> those aren't on the workstation. The only thing that I actually use from
> the workstation load is the ACAD.EXE file. Just about everything else is
on
> the server and being pointed to via the registry.
>
> I hope that this helps you out a bit, let me know how it goes.
>
> --
> Skip Diercks
> Computer Support Specialist
> Wade-Trim, Inc.
> 517.732.3584
> sdiercks@wadetrim.com
>
*Diercks, Skip
Message 4 of 4 (269 Views)

Re:

04-13-2000 10:03 AM in reply to: *Skunza, Andy
Yes, the part that deals with the user.

--
Skip Diercks
Computer Support Specialist
Wade-Trim, Inc.
E-mail: sdiercks@wadetrim.com

Andy Skunza wrote in message
news:eefee1a.1@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> Skip,
>
> Thanks for the help! We are running win98 clients and I haven't yet tried
> roaming profiles. Does the entire registry follow the user? I just wish
> the registry didn't have to be involved!
>
> Your note on the reghack worked for me... the various ways I tried all had
> the switch in quotes.
>
> Thanks again,
> --
> Andrew Skunza
> Runway Sweeper
> askunza@dynamix-ltd.com
>
> "Skip Diercks" wrote in message
> news:eefee1a.0@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > Andy,
> > Please find some answers within the body of your message.
> >
> > Andy Skunza wrote in message
> > news:eefee1a.-1@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > Here are some (maybe stupid) questions:
> > >
> > > Why can't all the prefences/config settings be kept in an acad.ini (or
> > maybe
> > > acad.ini, printers.ini, and tablet.ini) file instead of some things in
> the
> > > registry and some things in profiles? This makes applying network
users
> > > settings very awkward. I would think that in a network a user should
be
> > > able to sit down at any machine, log in, start autocad and (without
> doing
> > > anything) have all the same settings ie,
> toolbars/menus/printers/tablet...
> > > This would be easy if all settings were stored in text files.
> >
> > The profiles are the information in the registry. If you use floating
> > profiles with NT, a user would have all his settings without needing to
> > import his custom .ARG everytime he uses a different machine. I have
> found
> > the use of profiles/registry entries to be very beneficial.
> >
> > > If profiles are for the config settings, why is pc2 information in
> > > acad14.cfg?
> >
> > It appears that the only thing stored in the .CFG file now is the
plotter
> > information. Unfortunately, I have not found a way to share this file
> from
> > the server because AutoCAD tries to write to it to much.
> >
> > > In the network version, how do I get my profile of choice to be the
> > default
> > > profile on a new client install?
> >
> > That's a good question. I didn't even bother trying that yet. At first
> > thought, I am going to look into a reg hack file to accomplish this for
my
> > users. It might be easier than the training I put together to get them
> > started.
> >
> > > Why can't I change where the acad14.cfg variable points in the config
> > > settings? I see that it can be changed with a command line switch, but
> > that
> > > doesn't work with drawings launched from explorer. I read a support
> > article
> > > that describes a registry change to get this to work, but it didn't.
> Even
> > > if it did, this "solution" would have to be done for each client.
> >
> > Reghack will work here.
> >
>
\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\AutoCAD.Drawing.14\shell\open\command.
> > Set default to add the command line switch to allow where the acad14.cfg
> is
> > when you launch the drawing from explorer. Should look like this:
> > "C:\Program Files\ACADR14\acad.exe" /c d:\wherever "%1"
> >
> > > What is the benefit, besides floating licenses, of a network version
if
> > the
> > > program is so heavily tied to a workstation (via windows registry)?
> >
> > The biggest benefit is definately the floating license thing in my
opinion
> > and is a great need for my situation. Corporately, we have been able to
> > save a lot of money on license that get minimal use. We have been able
to
> > load AutoCAD in offices that don't have heavy AutoCAD use and pull the
> > license from another office via the WAN. We have very little tied to
our
> > workstations. Yes the registry thing is there, but with roaming
profiles,
> > those aren't on the workstation. The only thing that I actually use
from
> > the workstation load is the ACAD.EXE file. Just about everything else
is
> on
> > the server and being pointed to via the registry.
> >
> > I hope that this helps you out a bit, let me know how it goes.
> >
> > --
> > Skip Diercks
> > Computer Support Specialist
> > Wade-Trim, Inc.
> > 517.732.3584
> > sdiercks@wadetrim.com
> >
>
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