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Liscense Manager and Linux

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Anonymous
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Liscense Manager and Linux

I read an earlier post I found on deja that said autodesk was not going to support a unix version of their liscense manager file. This file is "ADSKFLEX.EXE". So assuming you haven't ported this file over to Linux (if you have please let me know, I'd like a copy) then is it possible to run the file using WINE? Or if the file cannot be used under WINE, is it possible to be running Windows 2000 or 98, or whatever flavor I choose, using VMWare under linux. Essentially 2 OS's running at once, with Linux doing all the networking junk and Windows just running the software for dishing outthe liscense.

Thnaks for the help.
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Message 2 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I don't know about Wine or VMware, but I know it hasn't been ported to Linux
and probably won't be for some time, if ever. I don't think you'll have
much luck under Wine and probably not much under VMWare either. However, if
you have Win2K why not use it instead of trying Wine or VMware? You can use
this lic manager on Win2K (and 98 I believe), but you'll be limited to only
10 TCP connections (that's a windows limitation) so if you have more than
that you'll either need to get Win2K server or configure the clients to use
UDP to connect the lic server.

--
Kevin Nehls


"pulse301" wrote in message
news:f107644.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I read an earlier post I found on deja that said autodesk was not going to
support a unix version of their liscense manager file. This file is
"ADSKFLEX.EXE". So assuming you haven't ported this file over to Linux (if
you have please let me know, I'd like a copy) then is it possible to run the
file using WINE? Or if the file cannot be used under WINE, is it possible to
be running Windows 2000 or 98, or whatever flavor I choose, using VMWare
under linux. Essentially 2 OS's running at once, with Linux doing all the
networking junk and Windows just running the software for dishing outthe
liscense.
> Thnaks for the help.
>
>
Message 3 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

We have 20 users, and have them set up on Linux servers right now. There is no need to buy Win2000 servers + 20 certificates to conect those comptuers. Why wouldn't at least VMWare work? After all we would be running Windows 2000 on top of Linux. Although I'm not sure which OS would be taking care of TCP/IP connections.
Message 4 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Even if you run Windows 2000 through Linux, if you still want to be legal
you still have to buy those CALs, plus if you have more than 10 TCP
connections you'll have to get server as the workstation version will just
refuse all connections after all 10 are filled. If you run Win2K through
VMWare on Linux and Linux takes care of the TCP connections then FlexLM
might not even work.

Just to clarify, you don't need to purchase CALs if you are running the
workstation version, but you do if you are running server.

Right now there is no that I know of that you can run FlexLM on Linux. Of
course you can always give it a try through VMWare, but that would also be
unsupported by Autodesk.

--
Kevin Nehls
Message 5 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I don't want to run server on Linux, I want to run professional, and I was hoping Linux woul dbe taking care of all the connections. There is a version of FlexLM that runs on linux, but a version of ADSKFLEX.EXE is not availible for linux. I've never used WINE before so I don't know exactly what it would need ot run the file. I guess I'll just have ot give it a try and ee what happens, anyone else ever had any luck with this kind of setup?
Message 6 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

If you get it working under VMWare let us know. It would be interesting.
But still be aware that you'll still be breaking Microsoft's EULA if running
VMWare allows you to have more than 10 TCP connections to professional, from
reading about VMWare though I don't think it will work that way and you may
have to use UDP instead.

And since you can run Apache web server on Windows running on Linux through
VMWare I'd bet that VMWare just passes the TCP connection straight over to
Windows, so you probably won't be able to get more than 10 connections with
professional unless you configure your clients to use UDP instead.

--
Kevin Nehls


"pulse301" wrote in message
news:f107644.3@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I don't want to run server on Linux, I want to run professional, and I was
hoping Linux woul dbe taking care of all the connections. There is a version
of FlexLM that runs on linux, but a version of ADSKFLEX.EXE is not availible
for linux. I've never used WINE before so I don't know exactly what it would
need ot run the file. I guess I'll just have ot give it a try and ee what
happens, anyone else ever had any luck with this kind of setup?
>
Message 7 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Kevin,
Are you sure the 10 connection limit actually applies? Since the FlexLM is
more of a hearbeat than a direct connection, does the attachment really
occur? We used the old LM on an NT4 WS with no problems (22 users.) Since I
haven't tried it with the new Flex, I'm not sure either way. It just seems
odd for them (autodesk) to require that you use Server to host a product
based on heartbeats.

--
James Wedding, P.E.
IT Manager
Jones & Boyd, Inc.
Dallas, TX
jwedding@*NOSPAM*jones-boyd.com

Search before you ask, it's been asked before.
Message 8 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

That's right. I forgot that autocad just "heartbeats" out there for the lic
server. So as long as you don't have 10 connections at the same time you
should be fine.

They've never required you to use Server, I think everyone just has it stuck
in there heads (including me) that Workstation can only have 10 simultaneous
connections. So since AutoCAD just does a heartbeat you should be able to
get away with using the Workstation class OS for many more seats of AutoCAD
(as long as it's just a lic server and not a file or print server). This
would also keep you from having to obtain CALs just to use a lic server.

Thanks James,
Kevin
Message 9 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Well now that is very interesting. James, are you sure you weren't using UDP on the workstation? Also, I believe it is nearly mpossible not to break the EULA on Windows 2000 in a corporate environment. They say you can't run any server software on a 2000 pro, only on 2000 server. But most companies use PC Anywhere or VNC that runa server on the machine. We're not going to break the Eula on Windows 2000, but it is a touchy subject.

The heartbeat is sent out every 4 minutes, right? So unless 11 people started Autocad at the exact same time, the connection problem should never be a problem, right? Also, isn't UDP included in the TCP/IP suite, so in actuality I won't have to install a new protocol if we have to go with UDP?
Message 10 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

"pulse301"

Thinking about it more (thanks to James), you'll probably be able to do this
with straight TCP. The only problem you might have, which you won't know
without trying, is if VMWare is going to pass the right info to Win2K for
FlexLM to work properly.

I also believe that the heartbeat is at intervals of 6 minutes and even if
everyone connected at exactly the same time down to the nanosecond (very
unlikely) and their clocks were all 100% precise (not possible, esspecially
with PC clocks), some of them might get a message that autocad was closing
down, but I think that the heartbeat would try to connect again in the next
6 minutes. Basically you have 12 minutes before AutoCAD will shutdown, I
think..... 😉 I think you have one 6 minute interval for autocad to see
that it can't connect, then you have another 6 minute interval for it to try
again and if it can't then it shutsdown (much like DCHP clients trying to
renew their IP lease).

I also believe that UDP is installed with the TCP/IP suite, but if you don't
need it, I wouldn't use it as TCP is much more reliable if you have to
establish a connection.

--
Kevin Nehls


"pulse301" wrote in message
news:f107644.7@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Well now that is very interesting. James, are you sure you weren't using
UDP on the workstation? Also, I believe it is nearly mpossible not to break
the EULA on Windows 2000 in a corporate environment. They say you can't run
any server software on a 2000 pro, only on 2000 server. But most companies
use PC Anywhere or VNC that runa server on the machine. We're not going to
break the Eula on Windows 2000, but it is a touchy subject.
> The heartbeat is sent out every 4 minutes, right? So unless 11 people
started Autocad at the exact same time, the connection problem should never
be a problem, right? Also, isn't UDP included in the TCP/IP suite, so in
actuality I won't have to install a new protocol if we have to go with UDP?
>
>
Message 11 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I am not going to get in the middle of Microsoft EULA discussions or how to
configure the License Manager in such an unsupported manner but I can tell
you the heart beat occurs once a minute per session.

jerry milana
Autodesk Product Support


"Kevin Nehls" wrote in message
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> "pulse301"
>
> Thinking about it more (thanks to James), you'll probably be able to do
this
> with straight TCP. The only problem you might have, which you won't know
> without trying, is if VMWare is going to pass the right info to Win2K for
> FlexLM to work properly.
>
> I also believe that the heartbeat is at intervals of 6 minutes and even if
> everyone connected at exactly the same time down to the nanosecond (very
> unlikely) and their clocks were all 100% precise (not possible,
esspecially
> with PC clocks), some of them might get a message that autocad was closing
> down, but I think that the heartbeat would try to connect again in the
next
> 6 minutes. Basically you have 12 minutes before AutoCAD will shutdown, I
> think..... 😉 I think you have one 6 minute interval for autocad to see
> that it can't connect, then you have another 6 minute interval for it to
try
> again and if it can't then it shutsdown (much like DCHP clients trying to
> renew their IP lease).
>
> I also believe that UDP is installed with the TCP/IP suite, but if you
don't
> need it, I wouldn't use it as TCP is much more reliable if you have to
> establish a connection.
>
> --
> Kevin Nehls
>
>
> "pulse301" wrote in message
> news:f107644.7@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Well now that is very interesting. James, are you sure you weren't using
> UDP on the workstation? Also, I believe it is nearly mpossible not to
break
> the EULA on Windows 2000 in a corporate environment. They say you can't
run
> any server software on a 2000 pro, only on 2000 server. But most companies
> use PC Anywhere or VNC that runa server on the machine. We're not going to
> break the Eula on Windows 2000, but it is a touchy subject.
> > The heartbeat is sent out every 4 minutes, right? So unless 11 people
> started Autocad at the exact same time, the connection problem should
never
> be a problem, right? Also, isn't UDP included in the TCP/IP suite, so in
> actuality I won't have to install a new protocol if we have to go with
UDP?
> >
> >
>
>
Message 12 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Ah thanks for the info. Did it use to be 6 minutes or am I thinking of
something completely different?

--
Kevin Nehls


"jerry milana" wrote in message
news:73C4DBA2E9620607A94F9BF62B7B51AA@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I am not going to get in the middle of Microsoft EULA discussions or how
to
> configure the License Manager in such an unsupported manner but I can tell
> you the heart beat occurs once a minute per session.
>
> jerry milana
> Autodesk Product Support
Message 13 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

It has always been a minute.

jerry

"Kevin Nehls" wrote in message
news:373F416F7E8F235F643D1F60CF5F369D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Ah thanks for the info. Did it use to be 6 minutes or am I thinking of
> something completely different?
>
> --
> Kevin Nehls
>
>
> "jerry milana" wrote in message
> news:73C4DBA2E9620607A94F9BF62B7B51AA@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I am not going to get in the middle of Microsoft EULA discussions or how
> to
> > configure the License Manager in such an unsupported manner but I can
tell
> > you the heart beat occurs once a minute per session.
> >
> > jerry milana
> > Autodesk Product Support
>
>
Message 14 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hi,

I won't get into the EULA discussion either but a few clarifications are in
order:

The Elan license manager only used the UDP protocoll. That's why a
workstation version worked with it. The Flex also installs the UDP portion
and you can make AutoCAD use UDP by setting the environment variable
FLEXLM_COMM_TRANSPORT using the value UDP on each workstation.

Cheers,

Petri Ahava
CAD-Q Finland

"jerry milana" wrote in message
news:1662E5ED052738C7C35FD98805F4BFB9@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> It has always been a minute.
>
> jerry
>
> "Kevin Nehls" wrote in message
> news:373F416F7E8F235F643D1F60CF5F369D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Ah thanks for the info. Did it use to be 6 minutes or am I thinking of
> > something completely different?
> >
> > --
> > Kevin Nehls
> >
> >
> > "jerry milana" wrote in message
> > news:73C4DBA2E9620607A94F9BF62B7B51AA@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > I am not going to get in the middle of Microsoft EULA discussions or
how
> > to
> > > configure the License Manager in such an unsupported manner but I can
> tell
> > > you the heart beat occurs once a minute per session.
> > >
> > > jerry milana
> > > Autodesk Product Support
> >
> >
>
>
Message 15 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Either way, it can be done with simple WS instead of using MS Server
products. It's perhaps not quite as easy, but seeing as how you're
masquerading a Linux box to do the job anyway, you strike me as being quite
capable of handling a few system variables.

Good Luck! Let us know how it turns out, this could be interesting....
James Wedding, P.E.
IT Manager
Jones & Boyd, Inc.
Dallas, TX
jwedding@*NOSPAM*jones-boyd.com

Search before you ask, it's been asked before.
Message 16 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

ok, I'll let you guys know how it comes out. Thanks for all the help.

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