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*Weldy, Dean
Message 1 of 12 (93 Views)

HELP!!Drawings Become RO for No reason!!!

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05-18-2000 12:06 PM
I hope someone knows or might have had this happen to them. If anyone
has any information it would be GREATLY appreciated.

We have just updated 8 of your engineering computers from 350 PIII to
600 PIII and installed Autocad 2000 onto them once again. Currently we
work on a network but do not use a network Version of AutoCAD. AutoCAD
resides on our local computers. Our drawings lie on a File server and
the Engineers have Full access to the drawing on the Server.

Our problem is very sporatic. It currently happens to 3 out of the 8
people. While in a drawing (which is opened w/ full control), when the
drawing is ready to be saved, a message pops up in the Autocad drawing &

states that the drawing was opened prior to this save by another session

of autocad. & now the drawing Becomes Read ONLY for no reason.

We have checked everyone on the NET & they are not in the drawing Only
the one person.

We have Windows NT installed on the File Server & Windows 98 installed
on all the Engineers computers.

Does anyone have any IDeas what could be changing the User's drawings to

RO.

Shaan Hurley from the AutoCAD 2000 General help told me to Make sure
service Pack was installed (Already did that 1 month ago), make sure
that the Graphics acceleration was not set to FULL. Is there any other
light you can shed on this Matter???????

Please HELP!!!!

--
Thank you for your time & have a great day.

Dean A. Weldy
CAD Manager / Designer
Supreme Corp
16441 CR 38
Goshen, IN
46526
Fax: (501) 423-3552
Work: (219) 642-4888
*milana, jerry
Message 2 of 12 (93 Views)

Re: HELP!!Drawings Become RO for No reason!!!

05-18-2000 03:39 PM in reply to: *Weldy, Dean
Dean,

When you do a SAVE in AutoCAD, AutoCAD sends the server a request to release
the lock it had placed on the dwg file, then deletes is and renames the
working copy of the file to a dwg file of the original name. False read
only errors occur when AutoCAD's request to release the lock gets dropped or
lost. They will also happen if the server takes too long to process the
drop lock request. In any of these cases, AutoCAD's request to delete the
file arrives at the server with the lock still in place on the dwg file.
Usually when this happens between windows workstations and a windows server
the problem is server performance related. I would also make sure that the
Network Card Drivers on your Win 98 systems are the most current available.

Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Product Support
"Dean Weldy" wrote in message
news:39243F1D.6D1656EF@supremeind.com...
> I hope someone knows or might have had this happen to them. If anyone
> has any information it would be GREATLY appreciated.
>
> We have just updated 8 of your engineering computers from 350 PIII to
> 600 PIII and installed Autocad 2000 onto them once again. Currently we
> work on a network but do not use a network Version of AutoCAD. AutoCAD
> resides on our local computers. Our drawings lie on a File server and
> the Engineers have Full access to the drawing on the Server.
>
> Our problem is very sporatic. It currently happens to 3 out of the 8
> people. While in a drawing (which is opened w/ full control), when the
> drawing is ready to be saved, a message pops up in the Autocad drawing &
>
> states that the drawing was opened prior to this save by another session
>
> of autocad. & now the drawing Becomes Read ONLY for no reason.
>
> We have checked everyone on the NET & they are not in the drawing Only
> the one person.
>
> We have Windows NT installed on the File Server & Windows 98 installed
> on all the Engineers computers.
>
> Does anyone have any IDeas what could be changing the User's drawings to
>
> RO.
>
> Shaan Hurley from the AutoCAD 2000 General help told me to Make sure
> service Pack was installed (Already did that 1 month ago), make sure
> that the Graphics acceleration was not set to FULL. Is there any other
> light you can shed on this Matter???????
>
> Please HELP!!!!
>
> --
> Thank you for your time & have a great day.
>
> Dean A. Weldy
> CAD Manager / Designer
> Supreme Corp
> 16441 CR 38
> Goshen, IN
> 46526
> Fax: (501) 423-3552
> Work: (219) 642-4888
>
*Weldy, Dean
Message 3 of 12 (93 Views)

Re:

05-19-2000 12:58 PM in reply to: *Weldy, Dean
My cards are BRAND New & the server hasn't changed from my previouse machine.
We didn't have this problem on our machines that were 6months old now these 8
new computers (supposedly faster) have the problem. We use 10/100mip cards the
servers have (2) 10/100mip cards which are combined to make 200mip cards. There
is now speed degregation there w/ the nik cards. This seems to be a problem
everyone is having from NT---netware. I don't like the Idea of saving the files
to hard drive that isn't acceptable.

There should be no reason why we would loose our Full access to our drawings. I
guess I need to sacrifice our new computer speeds & go back to the older
machines.

jerry milana wrote:

> Dean,
>
> When you do a SAVE in AutoCAD, AutoCAD sends the server a request to release
> the lock it had placed on the dwg file, then deletes is and renames the
> working copy of the file to a dwg file of the original name. False read
> only errors occur when AutoCAD's request to release the lock gets dropped or
> lost. They will also happen if the server takes too long to process the
> drop lock request. In any of these cases, AutoCAD's request to delete the
> file arrives at the server with the lock still in place on the dwg file.
> Usually when this happens between windows workstations and a windows server
> the problem is server performance related. I would also make sure that the
> Network Card Drivers on your Win 98 systems are the most current available.
>
> Jerry Milana,
> Autodesk Product Support
> "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> news:39243F1D.6D1656EF@supremeind.com...
> > I hope someone knows or might have had this happen to them. If anyone
> > has any information it would be GREATLY appreciated.
> >
> > We have just updated 8 of your engineering computers from 350 PIII to
> > 600 PIII and installed Autocad 2000 onto them once again. Currently we
> > work on a network but do not use a network Version of AutoCAD. AutoCAD
> > resides on our local computers. Our drawings lie on a File server and
> > the Engineers have Full access to the drawing on the Server.
> >
> > Our problem is very sporatic. It currently happens to 3 out of the 8
> > people. While in a drawing (which is opened w/ full control), when the
> > drawing is ready to be saved, a message pops up in the Autocad drawing &
> >
> > states that the drawing was opened prior to this save by another session
> >
> > of autocad. & now the drawing Becomes Read ONLY for no reason.
> >
> > We have checked everyone on the NET & they are not in the drawing Only
> > the one person.
> >
> > We have Windows NT installed on the File Server & Windows 98 installed
> > on all the Engineers computers.
> >
> > Does anyone have any IDeas what could be changing the User's drawings to
> >
> > RO.
> >
> > Shaan Hurley from the AutoCAD 2000 General help told me to Make sure
> > service Pack was installed (Already did that 1 month ago), make sure
> > that the Graphics acceleration was not set to FULL. Is there any other
> > light you can shed on this Matter???????
> >
> > Please HELP!!!!
> >
> > --
> > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> >
> > Dean A. Weldy
> > CAD Manager / Designer
> > Supreme Corp
> > 16441 CR 38
> > Goshen, IN
> > 46526
> > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > Work: (219) 642-4888
> >

--
Thank you for your time & have a great day.

Dean A. Weldy
CAD Manager / Designer
Supreme Corp
16441 CR 38
Goshen, IN
46526
Fax: (501) 423-3552
Work: (219) 642-4888
*milana, jerry
Message 4 of 12 (93 Views)

Re:

05-19-2000 01:37 PM in reply to: *Weldy, Dean
Dean,

I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard "My cards are BRAND New"
and found that in fact the drivers shipped on the media supplied with the
card was out of date. I have also seen defective OS loads and service packs
applied improperly on "BRAND New" computers.
Now, if the problem only began with the new workstations, isn't it worth
making sure that all of your drivers are the latest available? I would also
check to see if a BIOS update is available for your systems.

Jerry

"Dean Weldy" wrote in message
news:39259CC8.AFE60EB9@supremeind.com...
> My cards are BRAND New & the server hasn't changed from my previouse
machine.
> We didn't have this problem on our machines that were 6months old now
these 8
> new computers (supposedly faster) have the problem. We use 10/100mip
cards the
> servers have (2) 10/100mip cards which are combined to make 200mip cards.
There
> is now speed degregation there w/ the nik cards. This seems to be a
problem
> everyone is having from NT---netware. I don't like the Idea of saving the
files
> to hard drive that isn't acceptable.
>
> There should be no reason why we would loose our Full access to our
drawings. I
> guess I need to sacrifice our new computer speeds & go back to the older
> machines.
>
> jerry milana wrote:
>
> > Dean,
> >
> > When you do a SAVE in AutoCAD, AutoCAD sends the server a request to
release
> > the lock it had placed on the dwg file, then deletes is and renames the
> > working copy of the file to a dwg file of the original name. False read
> > only errors occur when AutoCAD's request to release the lock gets
dropped or
> > lost. They will also happen if the server takes too long to process the
> > drop lock request. In any of these cases, AutoCAD's request to delete
the
> > file arrives at the server with the lock still in place on the dwg file.
> > Usually when this happens between windows workstations and a windows
server
> > the problem is server performance related. I would also make sure that
the
> > Network Card Drivers on your Win 98 systems are the most current
available.
> >
> > Jerry Milana,
> > Autodesk Product Support
> > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > news:39243F1D.6D1656EF@supremeind.com...
> > > I hope someone knows or might have had this happen to them. If anyone
> > > has any information it would be GREATLY appreciated.
> > >
> > > We have just updated 8 of your engineering computers from 350 PIII to
> > > 600 PIII and installed Autocad 2000 onto them once again. Currently
we
> > > work on a network but do not use a network Version of AutoCAD.
AutoCAD
> > > resides on our local computers. Our drawings lie on a File server and
> > > the Engineers have Full access to the drawing on the Server.
> > >
> > > Our problem is very sporatic. It currently happens to 3 out of the 8
> > > people. While in a drawing (which is opened w/ full control), when
the
> > > drawing is ready to be saved, a message pops up in the Autocad drawing
&
> > >
> > > states that the drawing was opened prior to this save by another
session
> > >
> > > of autocad. & now the drawing Becomes Read ONLY for no reason.
> > >
> > > We have checked everyone on the NET & they are not in the drawing Only
> > > the one person.
> > >
> > > We have Windows NT installed on the File Server & Windows 98 installed
> > > on all the Engineers computers.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any IDeas what could be changing the User's drawings
to
> > >
> > > RO.
> > >
> > > Shaan Hurley from the AutoCAD 2000 General help told me to Make sure
> > > service Pack was installed (Already did that 1 month ago), make sure
> > > that the Graphics acceleration was not set to FULL. Is there any
other
> > > light you can shed on this Matter???????
> > >
> > > Please HELP!!!!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > >
> > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > Supreme Corp
> > > 16441 CR 38
> > > Goshen, IN
> > > 46526
> > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > >
>
> --
> Thank you for your time & have a great day.
>
> Dean A. Weldy
> CAD Manager / Designer
> Supreme Corp
> 16441 CR 38
> Goshen, IN
> 46526
> Fax: (501) 423-3552
> Work: (219) 642-4888
>
*Weldy, Dean
Message 5 of 12 (93 Views)

Re:

05-19-2000 02:05 PM in reply to: *Weldy, Dean
Well the news is when we built these New computers we went directly to the NIC
card web sites & downloaded the New update drivers. SO i Guarntee the drivers
are NEW I helped personally.

Now the BIOS we didn't do anything with that we could check that one out.

BUT, to throw a new twist on this subject. I just recieved a call from another
of my engineers. He works on His computer directly. Doesn't access his
drawings over the Network @ all. ONly thing the network is for for him is
Email. His hard drive isn't shared so NO ONE but him has access. All of his
drawings opened in his AUTOCAD session have just turned to RO. Now there is no
one w/ access to open his drawings.

Now the Nic drivers should affect that machine since everything is local. So
what feed back should we proceed w/ on that machine. The problem is the same.
Have you heard anything about the new motherboards w/ Intel 820 chipsets??? Is
this a possiblity??? The only thing different between these comps & last ones is
a
600mhz Chip new chip set
256meg Ram
& VX1 Oxygen graphics card.

Nics are same but w/ updated drivers from web sites.
Monitors same

But what i've seen on these discussion groups is ALOT are having the same
problem & it is very frustrating dealing w/ it.

jerry milana wrote:

> Dean,
>
> I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard "My cards are BRAND New"
> and found that in fact the drivers shipped on the media supplied with the
> card was out of date. I have also seen defective OS loads and service packs
> applied improperly on "BRAND New" computers.
> Now, if the problem only began with the new workstations, isn't it worth
> making sure that all of your drivers are the latest available? I would also
> check to see if a BIOS update is available for your systems.
>
> Jerry
>
> "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> news:39259CC8.AFE60EB9@supremeind.com...
> > My cards are BRAND New & the server hasn't changed from my previouse
> machine.
> > We didn't have this problem on our machines that were 6months old now
> these 8
> > new computers (supposedly faster) have the problem. We use 10/100mip
> cards the
> > servers have (2) 10/100mip cards which are combined to make 200mip cards.
> There
> > is now speed degregation there w/ the nik cards. This seems to be a
> problem
> > everyone is having from NT---netware. I don't like the Idea of saving the
> files
> > to hard drive that isn't acceptable.
> >
> > There should be no reason why we would loose our Full access to our
> drawings. I
> > guess I need to sacrifice our new computer speeds & go back to the older
> > machines.
> >
> > jerry milana wrote:
> >
> > > Dean,
> > >
> > > When you do a SAVE in AutoCAD, AutoCAD sends the server a request to
> release
> > > the lock it had placed on the dwg file, then deletes is and renames the
> > > working copy of the file to a dwg file of the original name. False read
> > > only errors occur when AutoCAD's request to release the lock gets
> dropped or
> > > lost. They will also happen if the server takes too long to process the
> > > drop lock request. In any of these cases, AutoCAD's request to delete
> the
> > > file arrives at the server with the lock still in place on the dwg file.
> > > Usually when this happens between windows workstations and a windows
> server
> > > the problem is server performance related. I would also make sure that
> the
> > > Network Card Drivers on your Win 98 systems are the most current
> available.
> > >
> > > Jerry Milana,
> > > Autodesk Product Support
> > > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > > news:39243F1D.6D1656EF@supremeind.com...
> > > > I hope someone knows or might have had this happen to them. If anyone
> > > > has any information it would be GREATLY appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > We have just updated 8 of your engineering computers from 350 PIII to
> > > > 600 PIII and installed Autocad 2000 onto them once again. Currently
> we
> > > > work on a network but do not use a network Version of AutoCAD.
> AutoCAD
> > > > resides on our local computers. Our drawings lie on a File server and
> > > > the Engineers have Full access to the drawing on the Server.
> > > >
> > > > Our problem is very sporatic. It currently happens to 3 out of the 8
> > > > people. While in a drawing (which is opened w/ full control), when
> the
> > > > drawing is ready to be saved, a message pops up in the Autocad drawing
> &
> > > >
> > > > states that the drawing was opened prior to this save by another
> session
> > > >
> > > > of autocad. & now the drawing Becomes Read ONLY for no reason.
> > > >
> > > > We have checked everyone on the NET & they are not in the drawing Only
> > > > the one person.
> > > >
> > > > We have Windows NT installed on the File Server & Windows 98 installed
> > > > on all the Engineers computers.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have any IDeas what could be changing the User's drawings
> to
> > > >
> > > > RO.
> > > >
> > > > Shaan Hurley from the AutoCAD 2000 General help told me to Make sure
> > > > service Pack was installed (Already did that 1 month ago), make sure
> > > > that the Graphics acceleration was not set to FULL. Is there any
> other
> > > > light you can shed on this Matter???????
> > > >
> > > > Please HELP!!!!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > > >
> > > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > > Supreme Corp
> > > > 16441 CR 38
> > > > Goshen, IN
> > > > 46526
> > > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> >
> > Dean A. Weldy
> > CAD Manager / Designer
> > Supreme Corp
> > 16441 CR 38
> > Goshen, IN
> > 46526
> > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > Work: (219) 642-4888
> >

--
Thank you for your time & have a great day.

Dean A. Weldy
CAD Manager / Designer
Supreme Corp
16441 CR 38
Goshen, IN
46526
Fax: (501) 423-3552
Work: (219) 642-4888
*Burgasser, Drew
Message 6 of 12 (93 Views)

Re:

05-19-2000 03:07 PM in reply to: *Weldy, Dean
On a side note, you may want to be aware of the MTH issue with the 820
chipset...

http://www.intel.com/support/mth

Drew Burgasser
CAD Masters, Inc.

Dean Weldy wrote in message
news:3925ACA0.709C3BD9@supremeind.com...
> Well the news is when we built these New computers we went directly to the
NIC
> card web sites & downloaded the New update drivers. SO i Guarntee the
drivers
> are NEW I helped personally.
>
> Now the BIOS we didn't do anything with that we could check that one out.
>
> BUT, to throw a new twist on this subject. I just recieved a call from
another
> of my engineers. He works on His computer directly. Doesn't access his
> drawings over the Network @ all. ONly thing the network is for for him is
> Email. His hard drive isn't shared so NO ONE but him has access. All of
his
> drawings opened in his AUTOCAD session have just turned to RO. Now there
is no
> one w/ access to open his drawings.
>
> Now the Nic drivers should affect that machine since everything is local.
So
> what feed back should we proceed w/ on that machine. The problem is the
same.
> Have you heard anything about the new motherboards w/ Intel 820
chipsets??? Is
> this a possiblity??? The only thing different between these comps & last
ones is
> a
> 600mhz Chip new chip set
> 256meg Ram
> & VX1 Oxygen graphics card.
>
> Nics are same but w/ updated drivers from web sites.
> Monitors same
>
> But what i've seen on these discussion groups is ALOT are having the same
> problem & it is very frustrating dealing w/ it.
>
> jerry milana wrote:
>
> > Dean,
> >
> > I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard "My cards are BRAND
New"
> > and found that in fact the drivers shipped on the media supplied with
the
> > card was out of date. I have also seen defective OS loads and service
packs
> > applied improperly on "BRAND New" computers.
> > Now, if the problem only began with the new workstations, isn't it worth
> > making sure that all of your drivers are the latest available? I would
also
> > check to see if a BIOS update is available for your systems.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > news:39259CC8.AFE60EB9@supremeind.com...
> > > My cards are BRAND New & the server hasn't changed from my previouse
> > machine.
> > > We didn't have this problem on our machines that were 6months old now
> > these 8
> > > new computers (supposedly faster) have the problem. We use 10/100mip
> > cards the
> > > servers have (2) 10/100mip cards which are combined to make 200mip
cards.
> > There
> > > is now speed degregation there w/ the nik cards. This seems to be a
> > problem
> > > everyone is having from NT---netware. I don't like the Idea of saving
the
> > files
> > > to hard drive that isn't acceptable.
> > >
> > > There should be no reason why we would loose our Full access to our
> > drawings. I
> > > guess I need to sacrifice our new computer speeds & go back to the
older
> > > machines.
> > >
> > > jerry milana wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dean,
> > > >
> > > > When you do a SAVE in AutoCAD, AutoCAD sends the server a request to
> > release
> > > > the lock it had placed on the dwg file, then deletes is and renames
the
> > > > working copy of the file to a dwg file of the original name. False
read
> > > > only errors occur when AutoCAD's request to release the lock gets
> > dropped or
> > > > lost. They will also happen if the server takes too long to process
the
> > > > drop lock request. In any of these cases, AutoCAD's request to
delete
> > the
> > > > file arrives at the server with the lock still in place on the dwg
file.
> > > > Usually when this happens between windows workstations and a windows
> > server
> > > > the problem is server performance related. I would also make sure
that
> > the
> > > > Network Card Drivers on your Win 98 systems are the most current
> > available.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Milana,
> > > > Autodesk Product Support
> > > > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > > > news:39243F1D.6D1656EF@supremeind.com...
> > > > > I hope someone knows or might have had this happen to them. If
anyone
> > > > > has any information it would be GREATLY appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have just updated 8 of your engineering computers from 350 PIII
to
> > > > > 600 PIII and installed Autocad 2000 onto them once again.
Currently
> > we
> > > > > work on a network but do not use a network Version of AutoCAD.
> > AutoCAD
> > > > > resides on our local computers. Our drawings lie on a File server
and
> > > > > the Engineers have Full access to the drawing on the Server.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our problem is very sporatic. It currently happens to 3 out of
the 8
> > > > > people. While in a drawing (which is opened w/ full control),
when
> > the
> > > > > drawing is ready to be saved, a message pops up in the Autocad
drawing
> > &
> > > > >
> > > > > states that the drawing was opened prior to this save by another
> > session
> > > > >
> > > > > of autocad. & now the drawing Becomes Read ONLY for no reason.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have checked everyone on the NET & they are not in the drawing
Only
> > > > > the one person.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have Windows NT installed on the File Server & Windows 98
installed
> > > > > on all the Engineers computers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have any IDeas what could be changing the User's
drawings
> > to
> > > > >
> > > > > RO.
> > > > >
> > > > > Shaan Hurley from the AutoCAD 2000 General help told me to Make
sure
> > > > > service Pack was installed (Already did that 1 month ago), make
sure
> > > > > that the Graphics acceleration was not set to FULL. Is there any
> > other
> > > > > light you can shed on this Matter???????
> > > > >
> > > > > Please HELP!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > > > Supreme Corp
> > > > > 16441 CR 38
> > > > > Goshen, IN
> > > > > 46526
> > > > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > >
> > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > Supreme Corp
> > > 16441 CR 38
> > > Goshen, IN
> > > 46526
> > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > >
>
> --
> Thank you for your time & have a great day.
>
> Dean A. Weldy
> CAD Manager / Designer
> Supreme Corp
> 16441 CR 38
> Goshen, IN
> 46526
> Fax: (501) 423-3552
> Work: (219) 642-4888
>
*Weldy, Dean
Message 7 of 12 (93 Views)

Re:

05-19-2000 03:17 PM in reply to: *Weldy, Dean
OK Now you stumped me what is the MTH issue w/ the 820 chipset?

Drew Burgasser wrote:

> On a side note, you may want to be aware of the MTH issue with the 820
> chipset...
>
> http://www.intel.com/support/mth
>
> Drew Burgasser
> CAD Masters, Inc.
>
> Dean Weldy wrote in message
> news:3925ACA0.709C3BD9@supremeind.com...
> > Well the news is when we built these New computers we went directly to the
> NIC
> > card web sites & downloaded the New update drivers. SO i Guarntee the
> drivers
> > are NEW I helped personally.
> >
> > Now the BIOS we didn't do anything with that we could check that one out.
> >
> > BUT, to throw a new twist on this subject. I just recieved a call from
> another
> > of my engineers. He works on His computer directly. Doesn't access his
> > drawings over the Network @ all. ONly thing the network is for for him is
> > Email. His hard drive isn't shared so NO ONE but him has access. All of
> his
> > drawings opened in his AUTOCAD session have just turned to RO. Now there
> is no
> > one w/ access to open his drawings.
> >
> > Now the Nic drivers should affect that machine since everything is local.
> So
> > what feed back should we proceed w/ on that machine. The problem is the
> same.
> > Have you heard anything about the new motherboards w/ Intel 820
> chipsets??? Is
> > this a possiblity??? The only thing different between these comps & last
> ones is
> > a
> > 600mhz Chip new chip set
> > 256meg Ram
> > & VX1 Oxygen graphics card.
> >
> > Nics are same but w/ updated drivers from web sites.
> > Monitors same
> >
> > But what i've seen on these discussion groups is ALOT are having the same
> > problem & it is very frustrating dealing w/ it.
> >
> > jerry milana wrote:
> >
> > > Dean,
> > >
> > > I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard "My cards are BRAND
> New"
> > > and found that in fact the drivers shipped on the media supplied with
> the
> > > card was out of date. I have also seen defective OS loads and service
> packs
> > > applied improperly on "BRAND New" computers.
> > > Now, if the problem only began with the new workstations, isn't it worth
> > > making sure that all of your drivers are the latest available? I would
> also
> > > check to see if a BIOS update is available for your systems.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > > news:39259CC8.AFE60EB9@supremeind.com...
> > > > My cards are BRAND New & the server hasn't changed from my previouse
> > > machine.
> > > > We didn't have this problem on our machines that were 6months old now
> > > these 8
> > > > new computers (supposedly faster) have the problem. We use 10/100mip
> > > cards the
> > > > servers have (2) 10/100mip cards which are combined to make 200mip
> cards.
> > > There
> > > > is now speed degregation there w/ the nik cards. This seems to be a
> > > problem
> > > > everyone is having from NT---netware. I don't like the Idea of saving
> the
> > > files
> > > > to hard drive that isn't acceptable.
> > > >
> > > > There should be no reason why we would loose our Full access to our
> > > drawings. I
> > > > guess I need to sacrifice our new computer speeds & go back to the
> older
> > > > machines.
> > > >
> > > > jerry milana wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dean,
> > > > >
> > > > > When you do a SAVE in AutoCAD, AutoCAD sends the server a request to
> > > release
> > > > > the lock it had placed on the dwg file, then deletes is and renames
> the
> > > > > working copy of the file to a dwg file of the original name. False
> read
> > > > > only errors occur when AutoCAD's request to release the lock gets
> > > dropped or
> > > > > lost. They will also happen if the server takes too long to process
> the
> > > > > drop lock request. In any of these cases, AutoCAD's request to
> delete
> > > the
> > > > > file arrives at the server with the lock still in place on the dwg
> file.
> > > > > Usually when this happens between windows workstations and a windows
> > > server
> > > > > the problem is server performance related. I would also make sure
> that
> > > the
> > > > > Network Card Drivers on your Win 98 systems are the most current
> > > available.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry Milana,
> > > > > Autodesk Product Support
> > > > > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > > > > news:39243F1D.6D1656EF@supremeind.com...
> > > > > > I hope someone knows or might have had this happen to them. If
> anyone
> > > > > > has any information it would be GREATLY appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have just updated 8 of your engineering computers from 350 PIII
> to
> > > > > > 600 PIII and installed Autocad 2000 onto them once again.
> Currently
> > > we
> > > > > > work on a network but do not use a network Version of AutoCAD.
> > > AutoCAD
> > > > > > resides on our local computers. Our drawings lie on a File server
> and
> > > > > > the Engineers have Full access to the drawing on the Server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our problem is very sporatic. It currently happens to 3 out of
> the 8
> > > > > > people. While in a drawing (which is opened w/ full control),
> when
> > > the
> > > > > > drawing is ready to be saved, a message pops up in the Autocad
> drawing
> > > &
> > > > > >
> > > > > > states that the drawing was opened prior to this save by another
> > > session
> > > > > >
> > > > > > of autocad. & now the drawing Becomes Read ONLY for no reason.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have checked everyone on the NET & they are not in the drawing
> Only
> > > > > > the one person.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have Windows NT installed on the File Server & Windows 98
> installed
> > > > > > on all the Engineers computers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have any IDeas what could be changing the User's
> drawings
> > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shaan Hurley from the AutoCAD 2000 General help told me to Make
> sure
> > > > > > service Pack was installed (Already did that 1 month ago), make
> sure
> > > > > > that the Graphics acceleration was not set to FULL. Is there any
> > > other
> > > > > > light you can shed on this Matter???????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please HELP!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > > > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > > > > Supreme Corp
> > > > > > 16441 CR 38
> > > > > > Goshen, IN
> > > > > > 46526
> > > > > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > > > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > > >
> > > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > > Supreme Corp
> > > > 16441 CR 38
> > > > Goshen, IN
> > > > 46526
> > > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> >
> > Dean A. Weldy
> > CAD Manager / Designer
> > Supreme Corp
> > 16441 CR 38
> > Goshen, IN
> > 46526
> > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > Work: (219) 642-4888
> >

--
Thank you for your time & have a great day.

Dean A. Weldy
CAD Manager / Designer
Supreme Corp
16441 CR 38
Goshen, IN
46526
Fax: (501) 423-3552
Work: (219) 642-4888
*Weldy, Dean
Message 8 of 12 (93 Views)

Re:

05-19-2000 03:18 PM in reply to: *Weldy, Dean
Never mind i'm slow it's late I saw your Link there.

Drew Burgasser wrote:

> On a side note, you may want to be aware of the MTH issue with the 820
> chipset...
>
> http://www.intel.com/support/mth
>
> Drew Burgasser
> CAD Masters, Inc.
>
> Dean Weldy wrote in message
> news:3925ACA0.709C3BD9@supremeind.com...
> > Well the news is when we built these New computers we went directly to the
> NIC
> > card web sites & downloaded the New update drivers. SO i Guarntee the
> drivers
> > are NEW I helped personally.
> >
> > Now the BIOS we didn't do anything with that we could check that one out.
> >
> > BUT, to throw a new twist on this subject. I just recieved a call from
> another
> > of my engineers. He works on His computer directly. Doesn't access his
> > drawings over the Network @ all. ONly thing the network is for for him is
> > Email. His hard drive isn't shared so NO ONE but him has access. All of
> his
> > drawings opened in his AUTOCAD session have just turned to RO. Now there
> is no
> > one w/ access to open his drawings.
> >
> > Now the Nic drivers should affect that machine since everything is local.
> So
> > what feed back should we proceed w/ on that machine. The problem is the
> same.
> > Have you heard anything about the new motherboards w/ Intel 820
> chipsets??? Is
> > this a possiblity??? The only thing different between these comps & last
> ones is
> > a
> > 600mhz Chip new chip set
> > 256meg Ram
> > & VX1 Oxygen graphics card.
> >
> > Nics are same but w/ updated drivers from web sites.
> > Monitors same
> >
> > But what i've seen on these discussion groups is ALOT are having the same
> > problem & it is very frustrating dealing w/ it.
> >
> > jerry milana wrote:
> >
> > > Dean,
> > >
> > > I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard "My cards are BRAND
> New"
> > > and found that in fact the drivers shipped on the media supplied with
> the
> > > card was out of date. I have also seen defective OS loads and service
> packs
> > > applied improperly on "BRAND New" computers.
> > > Now, if the problem only began with the new workstations, isn't it worth
> > > making sure that all of your drivers are the latest available? I would
> also
> > > check to see if a BIOS update is available for your systems.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > > news:39259CC8.AFE60EB9@supremeind.com...
> > > > My cards are BRAND New & the server hasn't changed from my previouse
> > > machine.
> > > > We didn't have this problem on our machines that were 6months old now
> > > these 8
> > > > new computers (supposedly faster) have the problem. We use 10/100mip
> > > cards the
> > > > servers have (2) 10/100mip cards which are combined to make 200mip
> cards.
> > > There
> > > > is now speed degregation there w/ the nik cards. This seems to be a
> > > problem
> > > > everyone is having from NT---netware. I don't like the Idea of saving
> the
> > > files
> > > > to hard drive that isn't acceptable.
> > > >
> > > > There should be no reason why we would loose our Full access to our
> > > drawings. I
> > > > guess I need to sacrifice our new computer speeds & go back to the
> older
> > > > machines.
> > > >
> > > > jerry milana wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dean,
> > > > >
> > > > > When you do a SAVE in AutoCAD, AutoCAD sends the server a request to
> > > release
> > > > > the lock it had placed on the dwg file, then deletes is and renames
> the
> > > > > working copy of the file to a dwg file of the original name. False
> read
> > > > > only errors occur when AutoCAD's request to release the lock gets
> > > dropped or
> > > > > lost. They will also happen if the server takes too long to process
> the
> > > > > drop lock request. In any of these cases, AutoCAD's request to
> delete
> > > the
> > > > > file arrives at the server with the lock still in place on the dwg
> file.
> > > > > Usually when this happens between windows workstations and a windows
> > > server
> > > > > the problem is server performance related. I would also make sure
> that
> > > the
> > > > > Network Card Drivers on your Win 98 systems are the most current
> > > available.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry Milana,
> > > > > Autodesk Product Support
> > > > > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > > > > news:39243F1D.6D1656EF@supremeind.com...
> > > > > > I hope someone knows or might have had this happen to them. If
> anyone
> > > > > > has any information it would be GREATLY appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have just updated 8 of your engineering computers from 350 PIII
> to
> > > > > > 600 PIII and installed Autocad 2000 onto them once again.
> Currently
> > > we
> > > > > > work on a network but do not use a network Version of AutoCAD.
> > > AutoCAD
> > > > > > resides on our local computers. Our drawings lie on a File server
> and
> > > > > > the Engineers have Full access to the drawing on the Server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our problem is very sporatic. It currently happens to 3 out of
> the 8
> > > > > > people. While in a drawing (which is opened w/ full control),
> when
> > > the
> > > > > > drawing is ready to be saved, a message pops up in the Autocad
> drawing
> > > &
> > > > > >
> > > > > > states that the drawing was opened prior to this save by another
> > > session
> > > > > >
> > > > > > of autocad. & now the drawing Becomes Read ONLY for no reason.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have checked everyone on the NET & they are not in the drawing
> Only
> > > > > > the one person.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have Windows NT installed on the File Server & Windows 98
> installed
> > > > > > on all the Engineers computers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have any IDeas what could be changing the User's
> drawings
> > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shaan Hurley from the AutoCAD 2000 General help told me to Make
> sure
> > > > > > service Pack was installed (Already did that 1 month ago), make
> sure
> > > > > > that the Graphics acceleration was not set to FULL. Is there any
> > > other
> > > > > > light you can shed on this Matter???????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please HELP!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > > > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > > > > Supreme Corp
> > > > > > 16441 CR 38
> > > > > > Goshen, IN
> > > > > > 46526
> > > > > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > > > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > > >
> > > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > > Supreme Corp
> > > > 16441 CR 38
> > > > Goshen, IN
> > > > 46526
> > > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> >
> > Dean A. Weldy
> > CAD Manager / Designer
> > Supreme Corp
> > 16441 CR 38
> > Goshen, IN
> > 46526
> > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > Work: (219) 642-4888
> >

--
Thank you for your time & have a great day.

Dean A. Weldy
CAD Manager / Designer
Supreme Corp
16441 CR 38
Goshen, IN
46526
Fax: (501) 423-3552
Work: (219) 642-4888
*Burgasser, Drew
Message 9 of 12 (93 Views)

Re:

05-19-2000 03:20 PM in reply to: *Weldy, Dean
Visit http://www.intel.com/support/mth for details.

I just set up a network with five machines with Intel CC820 motherboards,
and I have to go back and replace all five motherboards with either the
VC820 or an ASUS or ABIT compatible.

Dean Weldy wrote in message
news:3925BD83.918C859F@supremeind.com...
> OK Now you stumped me what is the MTH issue w/ the 820 chipset?
>
> Drew Burgasser wrote:
>
> > On a side note, you may want to be aware of the MTH issue with the 820
> > chipset...
> >
> > http://www.intel.com/support/mth
> >
> > Drew Burgasser
> > CAD Masters, Inc.
> >
> > Dean Weldy wrote in message
> > news:3925ACA0.709C3BD9@supremeind.com...
> > > Well the news is when we built these New computers we went directly to
the
> > NIC
> > > card web sites & downloaded the New update drivers. SO i Guarntee the
> > drivers
> > > are NEW I helped personally.
> > >
> > > Now the BIOS we didn't do anything with that we could check that one
out.
> > >
> > > BUT, to throw a new twist on this subject. I just recieved a call
from
> > another
> > > of my engineers. He works on His computer directly. Doesn't access
his
> > > drawings over the Network @ all. ONly thing the network is for for
him is
> > > Email. His hard drive isn't shared so NO ONE but him has access. All
of
> > his
> > > drawings opened in his AUTOCAD session have just turned to RO. Now
there
> > is no
> > > one w/ access to open his drawings.
> > >
> > > Now the Nic drivers should affect that machine since everything is
local.
> > So
> > > what feed back should we proceed w/ on that machine. The problem is
the
> > same.
> > > Have you heard anything about the new motherboards w/ Intel 820
> > chipsets??? Is
> > > this a possiblity??? The only thing different between these comps &
last
> > ones is
> > > a
> > > 600mhz Chip new chip set
> > > 256meg Ram
> > > & VX1 Oxygen graphics card.
> > >
> > > Nics are same but w/ updated drivers from web sites.
> > > Monitors same
> > >
> > > But what i've seen on these discussion groups is ALOT are having the
same
> > > problem & it is very frustrating dealing w/ it.
> > >
> > > jerry milana wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dean,
> > > >
> > > > I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard "My cards are
BRAND
> > New"
> > > > and found that in fact the drivers shipped on the media supplied
with
> > the
> > > > card was out of date. I have also seen defective OS loads and
service
> > packs
> > > > applied improperly on "BRAND New" computers.
> > > > Now, if the problem only began with the new workstations, isn't it
worth
> > > > making sure that all of your drivers are the latest available? I
would
> > also
> > > > check to see if a BIOS update is available for your systems.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > > > news:39259CC8.AFE60EB9@supremeind.com...
> > > > > My cards are BRAND New & the server hasn't changed from my
previouse
> > > > machine.
> > > > > We didn't have this problem on our machines that were 6months old
now
> > > > these 8
> > > > > new computers (supposedly faster) have the problem. We use
10/100mip
> > > > cards the
> > > > > servers have (2) 10/100mip cards which are combined to make 200mip
> > cards.
> > > > There
> > > > > is now speed degregation there w/ the nik cards. This seems to be
a
> > > > problem
> > > > > everyone is having from NT---netware. I don't like the Idea of
saving
> > the
> > > > files
> > > > > to hard drive that isn't acceptable.
> > > > >
> > > > > There should be no reason why we would loose our Full access to
our
> > > > drawings. I
> > > > > guess I need to sacrifice our new computer speeds & go back to the
> > older
> > > > > machines.
> > > > >
> > > > > jerry milana wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dean,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When you do a SAVE in AutoCAD, AutoCAD sends the server a
request to
> > > > release
> > > > > > the lock it had placed on the dwg file, then deletes is and
renames
> > the
> > > > > > working copy of the file to a dwg file of the original name.
False
> > read
> > > > > > only errors occur when AutoCAD's request to release the lock
gets
> > > > dropped or
> > > > > > lost. They will also happen if the server takes too long to
process
> > the
> > > > > > drop lock request. In any of these cases, AutoCAD's request to
> > delete
> > > > the
> > > > > > file arrives at the server with the lock still in place on the
dwg
> > file.
> > > > > > Usually when this happens between windows workstations and a
windows
> > > > server
> > > > > > the problem is server performance related. I would also make
sure
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > Network Card Drivers on your Win 98 systems are the most current
> > > > available.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jerry Milana,
> > > > > > Autodesk Product Support
> > > > > > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > > > > > news:39243F1D.6D1656EF@supremeind.com...
> > > > > > > I hope someone knows or might have had this happen to them.
If
> > anyone
> > > > > > > has any information it would be GREATLY appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have just updated 8 of your engineering computers from 350
PIII
> > to
> > > > > > > 600 PIII and installed Autocad 2000 onto them once again.
> > Currently
> > > > we
> > > > > > > work on a network but do not use a network Version of AutoCAD.
> > > > AutoCAD
> > > > > > > resides on our local computers. Our drawings lie on a File
server
> > and
> > > > > > > the Engineers have Full access to the drawing on the Server.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Our problem is very sporatic. It currently happens to 3 out
of
> > the 8
> > > > > > > people. While in a drawing (which is opened w/ full control),
> > when
> > > > the
> > > > > > > drawing is ready to be saved, a message pops up in the Autocad
> > drawing
> > > > &
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > states that the drawing was opened prior to this save by
another
> > > > session
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > of autocad. & now the drawing Becomes Read ONLY for no
reason.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have checked everyone on the NET & they are not in the
drawing
> > Only
> > > > > > > the one person.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have Windows NT installed on the File Server & Windows 98
> > installed
> > > > > > > on all the Engineers computers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone have any IDeas what could be changing the User's
> > drawings
> > > > to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > RO.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shaan Hurley from the AutoCAD 2000 General help told me to
Make
> > sure
> > > > > > > service Pack was installed (Already did that 1 month ago),
make
> > sure
> > > > > > > that the Graphics acceleration was not set to FULL. Is there
any
> > > > other
> > > > > > > light you can shed on this Matter???????
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please HELP!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > > > > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > > > > > Supreme Corp
> > > > > > > 16441 CR 38
> > > > > > > Goshen, IN
> > > > > > > 46526
> > > > > > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > > > > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > > > Supreme Corp
> > > > > 16441 CR 38
> > > > > Goshen, IN
> > > > > 46526
> > > > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > >
> > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > Supreme Corp
> > > 16441 CR 38
> > > Goshen, IN
> > > 46526
> > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > >
>
> --
> Thank you for your time & have a great day.
>
> Dean A. Weldy
> CAD Manager / Designer
> Supreme Corp
> 16441 CR 38
> Goshen, IN
> 46526
> Fax: (501) 423-3552
> Work: (219) 642-4888
>
*Weldy, Dean
Message 10 of 12 (93 Views)

Re:

05-19-2000 03:32 PM in reply to: *Weldy, Dean
Thanx maybe this is one reason why we are having the problems on these new
machines when we had the previous machines there wen't any RO problems I'll do
some research on my end & do a test study to see if they are steming from that
MTH issue.

I really appreciate the insight thanx alot.

So far this is only lead i've got. I know it's not what Jerry's been saying
because I was there personally installing the correct drivers for my Nic cards,
graphic cards & other hardware only thing We didn't make uptodate was the bios &
now w/ this chipset problem maybe might have hit on something.

Drew Burgasser wrote:

> Visit http://www.intel.com/support/mth for details.
>
> I just set up a network with five machines with Intel CC820 motherboards,
> and I have to go back and replace all five motherboards with either the
> VC820 or an ASUS or ABIT compatible.
>
> Dean Weldy wrote in message
> news:3925BD83.918C859F@supremeind.com...
> > OK Now you stumped me what is the MTH issue w/ the 820 chipset?
> >
> > Drew Burgasser wrote:
> >
> > > On a side note, you may want to be aware of the MTH issue with the 820
> > > chipset...
> > >
> > > http://www.intel.com/support/mth
> > >
> > > Drew Burgasser
> > > CAD Masters, Inc.
> > >
> > > Dean Weldy wrote in message
> > > news:3925ACA0.709C3BD9@supremeind.com...
> > > > Well the news is when we built these New computers we went directly to
> the
> > > NIC
> > > > card web sites & downloaded the New update drivers. SO i Guarntee the
> > > drivers
> > > > are NEW I helped personally.
> > > >
> > > > Now the BIOS we didn't do anything with that we could check that one
> out.
> > > >
> > > > BUT, to throw a new twist on this subject. I just recieved a call
> from
> > > another
> > > > of my engineers. He works on His computer directly. Doesn't access
> his
> > > > drawings over the Network @ all. ONly thing the network is for for
> him is
> > > > Email. His hard drive isn't shared so NO ONE but him has access. All
> of
> > > his
> > > > drawings opened in his AUTOCAD session have just turned to RO. Now
> there
> > > is no
> > > > one w/ access to open his drawings.
> > > >
> > > > Now the Nic drivers should affect that machine since everything is
> local.
> > > So
> > > > what feed back should we proceed w/ on that machine. The problem is
> the
> > > same.
> > > > Have you heard anything about the new motherboards w/ Intel 820
> > > chipsets??? Is
> > > > this a possiblity??? The only thing different between these comps &
> last
> > > ones is
> > > > a
> > > > 600mhz Chip new chip set
> > > > 256meg Ram
> > > > & VX1 Oxygen graphics card.
> > > >
> > > > Nics are same but w/ updated drivers from web sites.
> > > > Monitors same
> > > >
> > > > But what i've seen on these discussion groups is ALOT are having the
> same
> > > > problem & it is very frustrating dealing w/ it.
> > > >
> > > > jerry milana wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dean,
> > > > >
> > > > > I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard "My cards are
> BRAND
> > > New"
> > > > > and found that in fact the drivers shipped on the media supplied
> with
> > > the
> > > > > card was out of date. I have also seen defective OS loads and
> service
> > > packs
> > > > > applied improperly on "BRAND New" computers.
> > > > > Now, if the problem only began with the new workstations, isn't it
> worth
> > > > > making sure that all of your drivers are the latest available? I
> would
> > > also
> > > > > check to see if a BIOS update is available for your systems.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > > > > news:39259CC8.AFE60EB9@supremeind.com...
> > > > > > My cards are BRAND New & the server hasn't changed from my
> previouse
> > > > > machine.
> > > > > > We didn't have this problem on our machines that were 6months old
> now
> > > > > these 8
> > > > > > new computers (supposedly faster) have the problem. We use
> 10/100mip
> > > > > cards the
> > > > > > servers have (2) 10/100mip cards which are combined to make 200mip
> > > cards.
> > > > > There
> > > > > > is now speed degregation there w/ the nik cards. This seems to be
> a
> > > > > problem
> > > > > > everyone is having from NT---netware. I don't like the Idea of
> saving
> > > the
> > > > > files
> > > > > > to hard drive that isn't acceptable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There should be no reason why we would loose our Full access to
> our
> > > > > drawings. I
> > > > > > guess I need to sacrifice our new computer speeds & go back to the
> > > older
> > > > > > machines.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jerry milana wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dean,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When you do a SAVE in AutoCAD, AutoCAD sends the server a
> request to
> > > > > release
> > > > > > > the lock it had placed on the dwg file, then deletes is and
> renames
> > > the
> > > > > > > working copy of the file to a dwg file of the original name.
> False
> > > read
> > > > > > > only errors occur when AutoCAD's request to release the lock
> gets
> > > > > dropped or
> > > > > > > lost. They will also happen if the server takes too long to
> process
> > > the
> > > > > > > drop lock request. In any of these cases, AutoCAD's request to
> > > delete
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > file arrives at the server with the lock still in place on the
> dwg
> > > file.
> > > > > > > Usually when this happens between windows workstations and a
> windows
> > > > > server
> > > > > > > the problem is server performance related. I would also make
> sure
> > > that
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > Network Card Drivers on your Win 98 systems are the most current
> > > > > available.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jerry Milana,
> > > > > > > Autodesk Product Support
> > > > > > > "Dean Weldy" wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:39243F1D.6D1656EF@supremeind.com...
> > > > > > > > I hope someone knows or might have had this happen to them.
> If
> > > anyone
> > > > > > > > has any information it would be GREATLY appreciated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We have just updated 8 of your engineering computers from 350
> PIII
> > > to
> > > > > > > > 600 PIII and installed Autocad 2000 onto them once again.
> > > Currently
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > > work on a network but do not use a network Version of AutoCAD.
> > > > > AutoCAD
> > > > > > > > resides on our local computers. Our drawings lie on a File
> server
> > > and
> > > > > > > > the Engineers have Full access to the drawing on the Server.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Our problem is very sporatic. It currently happens to 3 out
> of
> > > the 8
> > > > > > > > people. While in a drawing (which is opened w/ full control),
> > > when
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > drawing is ready to be saved, a message pops up in the Autocad
> > > drawing
> > > > > &
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > states that the drawing was opened prior to this save by
> another
> > > > > session
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > of autocad. & now the drawing Becomes Read ONLY for no
> reason.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We have checked everyone on the NET & they are not in the
> drawing
> > > Only
> > > > > > > > the one person.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We have Windows NT installed on the File Server & Windows 98
> > > installed
> > > > > > > > on all the Engineers computers.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does anyone have any IDeas what could be changing the User's
> > > drawings
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > RO.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Shaan Hurley from the AutoCAD 2000 General help told me to
> Make
> > > sure
> > > > > > > > service Pack was installed (Already did that 1 month ago),
> make
> > > sure
> > > > > > > > that the Graphics acceleration was not set to FULL. Is there
> any
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > > light you can shed on this Matter???????
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please HELP!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > > > > > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > > > > > > Supreme Corp
> > > > > > > > 16441 CR 38
> > > > > > > > Goshen, IN
> > > > > > > > 46526
> > > > > > > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > > > > > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > > > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > > > > Supreme Corp
> > > > > > 16441 CR 38
> > > > > > Goshen, IN
> > > > > > 46526
> > > > > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > > > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> > > >
> > > > Dean A. Weldy
> > > > CAD Manager / Designer
> > > > Supreme Corp
> > > > 16441 CR 38
> > > > Goshen, IN
> > > > 46526
> > > > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > > > Work: (219) 642-4888
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Thank you for your time & have a great day.
> >
> > Dean A. Weldy
> > CAD Manager / Designer
> > Supreme Corp
> > 16441 CR 38
> > Goshen, IN
> > 46526
> > Fax: (501) 423-3552
> > Work: (219) 642-4888
> >

--
Thank you for your time & have a great day.

Dean A. Weldy
CAD Manager / Designer
Supreme Corp
16441 CR 38
Goshen, IN
46526
Fax: (501) 423-3552
Work: (219) 642-4888
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