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AutoCAD 2004 and Server 2003 Terminal Services

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10-24-2003 05:51 AM
I am investigating switching our office topology from individual workstations to thin clients connecting to Win Server 2003 Terminal Services Application mode. Does anyone out here know if AutoCAD 2004 can be run on a thin client from a Win Server 2003 Terminal Server? I can not seem to locate that info on the AutoDesk website.

Thanks,

--Mike
*milana, jerry
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Re: AutoCAD 2004 and Server 2003 Terminal Services

10-24-2003 06:58 AM in reply to: mlarson
Mike,

 

Sorry, AutoCAD is not supported on Terminal Server
Clients.  Additionally, since running this way does not work with Autodesk
licensing systems it violated your license agreement with us.

 

Windows 2003 Server has not been tested and is not
supported for running AutoCAD or the license manager at this time.

 


Jerry Milana,

Autodesk Professional Services


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I
am investigating switching our office topology from individual workstations to
thin clients connecting to Win Server 2003 Terminal Services Application mode.
Does anyone out here know if AutoCAD 2004 can be run on a thin client from a
Win Server 2003 Terminal Server? I can not seem to locate that info on the
AutoDesk website.

Thanks,

--Mike

Re:

11-04-2003 03:31 AM in reply to: mlarson
Is there any schedule for testing that might give
me an idea when Windows 2003 Server will be certified or supported for running
the FlexLM License Manager for AutoCAD 2004? (I wouldn't be running AutoCAD
itself on Server 2003, just the license manager).

Thanks!


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Mike,

 

Sorry, AutoCAD is not supported on Terminal
Server Clients.  Additionally, since running this way does not work with
Autodesk licensing systems it violated your license agreement with
us.

 

Windows 2003 Server has not been tested and is
not supported for running AutoCAD or the license manager at this
time.

 


Jerry Milana,

Autodesk Professional Services


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
I
am investigating switching our office topology from individual workstations
to thin clients connecting to Win Server 2003 Terminal Services Application
mode. Does anyone out here know if AutoCAD 2004 can be run on a thin client
from a Win Server 2003 Terminal Server? I can not seem to locate that info
on the AutoDesk website.

Thanks,

--Mike

*milana, jerry
Post 4 of 14

Re:

11-04-2003 05:13 AM in reply to: mlarson
Mike,

 

We can not discuss future products on this
forum.  I recommend that you keep an eye on Autodesk.com and/or stay in
touch with your dealer regarding future developments.

jerry


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

Is there any schedule for testing that might give
me an idea when Windows 2003 Server will be certified or supported for running
the FlexLM License Manager for AutoCAD 2004? (I wouldn't be running AutoCAD
itself on Server 2003, just the license manager).

Thanks!


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

Mike,

 

Sorry, AutoCAD is not supported on Terminal
Server Clients.  Additionally, since running this way does not work
with Autodesk licensing systems it violated your license agreement with
us.

 

Windows 2003 Server has not been tested and is
not supported for running AutoCAD or the license manager at this
time.

 


Jerry Milana,

Autodesk Professional Services


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
I
am investigating switching our office topology from individual
workstations to thin clients connecting to Win Server 2003 Terminal
Services Application mode. Does anyone out here know if AutoCAD 2004 can
be run on a thin client from a Win Server 2003 Terminal Server? I can not
seem to locate that info on the AutoDesk website.

Thanks,

--Mike

Re:

11-04-2003 05:25 AM in reply to: mlarson
Thank you, I will keep an eye on Autodesk and speak
with my reseller, but please understand that I am not asking about future
products, but the testing being done for the compatibility of current
products.


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Mike,

 

We can not discuss future products on this
forum.  I recommend that you keep an eye on Autodesk.com and/or stay in
touch with your dealer regarding future developments.

jerry


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

Is there any schedule for testing that might
give me an idea when Windows 2003 Server will be certified or supported for
running the FlexLM License Manager for AutoCAD 2004? (I wouldn't be running
AutoCAD itself on Server 2003, just the license manager).

Thanks!


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

Mike,

 

Sorry, AutoCAD is not supported on Terminal
Server Clients.  Additionally, since running this way does not work
with Autodesk licensing systems it violated your license agreement with
us.

 

Windows 2003 Server has not been tested and
is not supported for running AutoCAD or the license manager at this
time.

 


Jerry Milana,

Autodesk Professional Services


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
I
am investigating switching our office topology from individual
workstations to thin clients connecting to Win Server 2003 Terminal
Services Application mode. Does anyone out here know if AutoCAD 2004 can
be run on a thin client from a Win Server 2003 Terminal Server? I can
not seem to locate that info on the AutoDesk website.

Thanks,

--Mike

*Lewis, Dave
Post 6 of 14

Re:

11-04-2003 08:22 AM in reply to: mlarson
Jenna, don't hold your breath, it will not happen. Autodesk does not want you to run it on TS period.
You could install it on a XP machine and do remote desktop. Just an idea.
It will work just fine on TS. I doubt autodesk would sue you for license violation, as long as you had enough
licenses to conver users. But really autocad is such a resource hog you would need a huge server for it to
run properly for day to day production. Just too much lag running remotely.

"Jenna"
|>
|>
Thank you, I will keep an eye on Autodesk and speak
|>with my reseller, but please understand that I am not asking about future
|>products, but the testing being done for the compatibility of current
|>products.

|>

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|>
|>
Mike,

|>
 

|>
We can not discuss future products on this
|> forum.  I recommend that you keep an eye on Autodesk.com and/or stay in
|> touch with your dealer regarding future developments.

|>
jerry

|>

|> style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
|>
|>
Is there any schedule for testing that might
|> give me an idea when Windows 2003 Server will be certified or supported for
|> running the FlexLM License Manager for AutoCAD 2004? (I wouldn't be running
|> AutoCAD itself on Server 2003, just the license manager).

|>
Thanks!

|>

|> style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
|>
|>
Mike,

|>
 

|>
Sorry, AutoCAD is not supported on Terminal
|> Server Clients.  Additionally, since running this way does not work
|> with Autodesk licensing systems it violated your license agreement with
|> us.

|>
 

|>
Windows 2003 Server has not been tested and
|> is not supported for running AutoCAD or the license manager at this
|> time.

|>
 

|>

|>
Jerry Milana,

|>
Autodesk Professional Services

|>

|> style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
|> I
|> am investigating switching our office topology from individual
|> workstations to thin clients connecting to Win Server 2003 Terminal
|> Services Application mode. Does anyone out here know if AutoCAD 2004 can
|> be run on a thin client from a Win Server 2003 Terminal Server? I can
|> not seem to locate that info on the AutoDesk website.
|>

Thanks,
|>

--Mike



-----------------------
Dave Lewis
CAD Manager

Just say no to HTML Posts!

Re:

11-04-2003 09:20 PM in reply to: mlarson
Please note that I am not the one who asked about Terminal Services and am
not trying to run AutoCAD on Terminal Services...I simply asked about the
testing being done for running the FlexLM License Manager for AutoCAD 2004
on Windows 2003 Server Standard. We install on each machine and use network
licensing...that works fine for us.
Thank you.

"Dave Lewis" wrote in message
news:smileysurprised:fggqvk5ptqqaotv00tkks0iae2c8ib0g7@4ax.com...
> Jenna, don't hold your breath, it will not happen. Autodesk does not want
you to run it on TS period.
> You could install it on a XP machine and do remote desktop. Just an idea.
> It will work just fine on TS. I doubt autodesk would sue you for license
violation, as long as you had enough
> licenses to conver users. But really autocad is such a resource hog you
would need a huge server for it to
> run properly for day to day production. Just too much lag running
remotely.
>
> "Jenna"
> |>
> |>
Thank you, I will keep an eye on Autodesk
and speak
> |>with my reseller, but please understand that I am not asking about
future
> |>products, but the testing being done for the compatibility of current
> |>products.

> |>
> |>style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> |>
> |>
Mike,

> |>
 

> |>
We can not discuss future products
on this
> |> forum.  I recommend that you keep an eye on Autodesk.com and/or
stay in
> |> touch with your dealer regarding future developments.

> |>
jerry

> |>
> |> style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> |>
> |>
Is there any schedule for testing that
might
> |> give me an idea when Windows 2003 Server will be certified or
supported for
> |> running the FlexLM License Manager for AutoCAD 2004? (I wouldn't be
running
> |> AutoCAD itself on Server 2003, just the license
manager).

> |>
Thanks!

> |>
> |> style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> |>
> |>
Mike,

> |>
 

> |>
Sorry, AutoCAD is not supported on
Terminal
> |> Server Clients.  Additionally, since running this way does
not work
> |> with Autodesk licensing systems it violated your license agreement
with
> |> us.

> |>
 

> |>
Windows 2003 Server has not been
tested and
> |> is not supported for running AutoCAD or the license manager at
this
> |> time.

> |>
 

> |>

> |>
Jerry Milana,

> |>
Autodesk Professional Services

> |>
> |> style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> |> I
> |> am investigating switching our office topology from individual
> |> workstations to thin clients connecting to Win Server 2003
Terminal
> |> Services Application mode. Does anyone out here know if AutoCAD
2004 can
> |> be run on a thin client from a Win Server 2003 Terminal Server?
I can
> |> not seem to locate that info on the AutoDesk website.
> |>

Thanks,
> |>

--Mike


>
> -----------------------
> Dave Lewis
> CAD Manager
>
> Just say no to HTML Posts!
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Post 8 of 14

Re:

01-02-2006 08:07 PM in reply to: mlarson
Can someone explain why using Autodesk products are not supported on TS? I provide CAD support to clients, and the ability to log in and inspect the problems (and then fix it). I can understand Autodesk not wanting to have everyone using TS as a rule, but what about support? Now I can't remotely support my clients, other than the archaic over-the-phone,tell-me-what-your-problem-is method... Can anyone suggest any alternatives?

Regards,
Chris
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Post 9 of 14

Re:

01-03-2006 11:41 AM in reply to: mlarson
Chris,

The argument is that the product must be installed locally and not run over the network from a server. If you still want to use remote services for support reasons, then by all means, do so. You can use Windows Remote Desktop, PC Anywhere, Citrix, eBlvd, etc.

Autodesk simply doesn't want Autodesk installed on one machine and accessed by many. This would violate the license.
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Post 10 of 14

Re: AutoCAD 2004 and Server 2003 Terminal Services

10-12-2006 09:17 AM in reply to: mlarson
Jerry,

Is this still the mantra?
I've looked at the EULA and it states..."over the internet"...

3.2.4 Hosting or Third Party Use. You may not Install or Access, or allow the Installation or Access of, the Software over the Internet, including, without limitation, use in connection with a Web hosting or similar service, or make the Software available to third parties via the Internet on Your computer system or otherwise.

Can we use Citrix sessions through the WAN to access a network licensed seat of AutoCad?

Tim
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