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Here's another vote for Linux support, CAD is pretty much what keeps me in Windows these days.
Support for Ubuntu would be sufficient. It's the largest one and other distros usually have ways to bring Ubuntu packages over to their own package manager(s).
Also another vote from me...The way windows microsoft goes with privacy and settings is something i don't approve , the only drawback for me to switch complete to linux distro is no support from fusion to linux os...prefered linux distro Fedora...
To be honest, you need to look at this from a practical perspective. You have to think of it from a "return on investment" perspective.
The market for linux has to be large enough to warrant the input of money into the platform, not to mention maintenance. Furthermore, it's my understanding that not all linux platforms are the same, so support would cost a lot of hours(money).
It makes more sense to just dual install windows onto a computer and make it autorun Fusion. everything is SSD nowdays, you could be up and at it in 30 seconds.
Would linux people be willing to pay a premium for the service? Since it may cost more to maintain linux software (in hours) then you should pay a higher price, not all of us who use normal OSes lol
Normal OSes? According to Gartner, worldwide numbers show Android (a Linux variant) at over 48% of the market and climbing. Windows doesn't even make second slot since "others" comes in at 26% and that will contain Linux, BSD, AIS, Unix etc. Windows is only 14% of the market share worldwide.
Yeah you should prob. rephrase that "normal" aspect on how many using Linux vs. Windows.. Today MacOSX and Linux have started to Dwarf Windows users.. And if it works on Mac.. it should work on Linux actually.
This isn't 1996. We shouldn't have to pay for the fact that AD didn't have the foresight to make this fully cross platform from the beginning. Mac users don't get charged extra because they had to develop a MAC version. And when they were developing a mac (which is NIX) why didn't they just make the little extra effort to make sure it ran on other versions of NIX? This thread should be proof enough that we aren't a small fringe market. It's not our fault AD has chosen to ignore Linux for so long. Go into the Autocad and inventor forums and you will see people have been making these requests far longer than F360 has been around. AD just belittled, discredited and refused to acknowledge them.
"If it works on Mac, it should work on Linux" Definitely true. Unless AD is using something horrible like dot net, porting to Linux should be possible unless AD has two completely separate code-bases for Fusion 360 (which would be a horrible code architecture)
VariCAD has a Windows and Linux version of their software, but not for Mac. I asked them about this once, didn't get a satisfactory answer. Point is, because it runs on one *nix, it doesn't mean it will run on all Unices.
A version of F360 with statically linked binaries would work Linux, but updating will be a pain.
Too many Linux flavours to cater for, I don't see this happening. One thing that can be common amongst all the Linux variants is a web browser, so I expect a browser (webgl) version to be the solution for the Linux crowd.
Unfortunately all my other engineering software is Windows only, and for most engineers, this is also true. No point in switching.
You would only need to support ELF static binaries and so are many other software devloper do. There is no need to support different "flavors" of linux.. Saying that just means you don't understand how linux works.
Just because the ubuntu packaging differs in tools and UI from Redhat packaging.. in the bottom its the same just different packaging and configuration.. There is no difference between them.
Some things don't compile well on different flavors due to bad dev support for newer libraries. But i have never not got anyting to work across linux flavors. Because you can always get the necessary libraries between the flavors.
In the end.. its just configurations ontop of the same kernel.. There is literally no difference between Redhat and Ubuntu or Debian.
As long as the applicaiton supports the X11 libraries - it would work on any Linux, and MacOSX as well.. But it is here i think there is a problem. The bigger differences between the UI components. Both windows and macosx is failry well documented.. Open anything regarding X11 and its a jumble of network protocols and drawing components dating back 15 years.
Yeah it's pretty silly worrying about distros and flavors. It would be awesome to see one package manager version. The more I look into it the more I would focus on Opensuse or Fedora/Redhat. Which generally if the RPM works for one it will work for the other. I know a lot of people will vote for Ubuntu and or DEB but for professional, commercial use, for a platform for CAE etc I would really lean toward Suse or RH. But yeah that could all be a much lower priority. Get us a binary and we can go from there. Of course the web version of F360 has been in Beta for what a year now? So even if AD said they were starting to tackle a LInux version it would probably be 5 years from now before anyone got their hands on it. I can't even get into the Leopard beta and I have tried many times. Haven't even gotten so much as a response.
Been a while since i used Fusion 360 but here are my two cents to why a Linux release would matter:
* Fusion 360 is a entry level application for pricing and educational reasons, most people that can't afford pricey software would benefit greatly if they could use Linux to host these some what more expensive software seeing as Linux is free.
* One of the reasons people are using OSX or Windows is because the major applications only support these platforms, if it weren't for Autodesk or Adobe I wouldn't be stuck using the two mentioned OS:es.. 90% of my productivity is driven through Linux, but I still need to keep a spare drive just to boot Photoshop and CAD/Fusion software..
It's just so old and tedious having to do this - Be a good role model!
Linux users is a small group of people, but one of the major reasons why more people aren't swapping to it is because big software brands refuses to open up their software up to more platforms. I'm not trying to sound like a hippie activist, but almost all casual desktop users I've come in contact with (including my bloody mom) says they have to stick to Windows because of either Photoshop, CAD/3Ds max or a certain game they're playing.
It's not because they want to use the OS or are afraid of learning a new one.. It's because they literally can't.
I have Zero hope this will even be read by anyone on Autodesk let alone be good enough reasons on it's own to make this into an actual change, but maybe all of the reasons people have given are? I hope Autodesk comes forward as a good role model in the big league, would be amazing.
Sitting on my Linux laptop right now after spending 30 min watching my main workstation boot up Windows, do 10 min of updates, restart, then start another series of updates and after another 15 min having it only show 15% complete with a warning that it will restart several more times before completion. Now I should be annoyed with Windows. I mean I don't know when Linux figured out how to avoid this but it was before I started using it over a decade ago. And people wonder why anyone would prefer Linux. But I'm not really annoyed with Windows. This is just one big reason of many I chose not to use it for the last 10 years. I am annoyed with Autodesk for ignoring this thread for so long and I am annoyed that I chose to stay with a company who belittles Linux and their users to such a degree. I wonder how much Autodesk spends on days like this where their employees probably just sit chatting to the person next to them while their computer is incapable of doing anything beyond displaying a very inaccurate status bar. Now it has restarted again. 32% complete.
Guess I'll go answer some emails now on my trusty Linux machine.
My university has Linux installed on all systems. In my team, the entire process from ideation to CAM in electronics design is done on Linux. Even for mechanical design, the entire process, except the design and integration is done on Linux. There would be no need to buy extra copies of Mac OS or Windows if even a single competent CAD software was available on Linux. Not a single CAD software for Linux is comparable to those available for Windows [Link].
Add to the fact that Mac OS market share and Linux market share is comparable (not counting mobile devices) [Link]. I don't see a reason for this to be not included in 2016 roadmap and would be greatly disappointed if it is not included in 2017 roadmap also.
Would the lastest generation package managers, Snappy and Flatpak, make distributing a Linux version somewhat easier? At least they are supposed to ease the dependency bundling and compatibility testing issues for cross-distro apps.
The recent privacy issues on Windows are really worrying.
