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jclaidler

Vault and Circular References

Status: New Idea
by *Expert Elite* on ‎10-17-2014 08:36 AM

It would greatly help in resolving circular reference issues within Vault, if it could be stated which type the reference is?

Or better yet, have Vault not able to check in drawings that have circular references.

 

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6 Kudos

In Vault Professional 2013, we could filter Item BOM rows using the column header filter:

 

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In Vault Professional 2015, someone has decided to completely remove this.  Why?? This is counter productive and I can't imagine anyone would ask for something useful and harmless to be removed.  Please reinstate this functionality ASAP.  I know the filter is available for standard system properties, but this is a custom UDP.  I'm also aware of the 'Group By' function but this was more convenient and user friendly.

 

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4 Kudos

I was going to make this as a tongue-in-cheek troll post, but then I figured there is a serious side to it.

It's with regards to one of my previous Idea posts:

 

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vault-ideastation/eco-properties-don-t-follow-the-rules/idi-p/5318891

 

Essentially, there's an option to enforce a value for ECO properties.  But as confirmed by Autodesk, it isn't supported therefore it doesn't actually do anything even though the option is there, leading you to believe it should work:

 

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vault-general-discussion/eco-properties-can-t-enforce/m-p/5321827#M547...

 

My Idea is... if something doesn't work, isn't supported, can't function for whatever technical reason, remove the option from the product or grey it out.  

 

I honestly don't mind if something isn't supported.  I do mind wasting an hour or two scratching my head blowing time trying to make it work when all along the code behind the option just isn't there, it's disabled, it's wasted my time and annoyed me to boot.  

 

This isn't restricted specifically to ECO properties, this applies to all other red herring empty duff options in Vault.  The Item watermark 'transparent' colour option is one of a few I could back this up with! :smileytongue:

4 Kudos
Neil_Cross

Edit Properties for Items in BOM tab

Status: New Idea
by *Expert Elite* on ‎10-06-2014 04:34 AM

The new Item workflows are great but need some improvement as they can be really clunky. The majority of the problems are due to the fact that we can only actively edit one Item in session at a time. For example.

 

1) Open and edit an Item.
2) Go to BOM tab.
3) Right Click > Add Row > From New Item

 

This will create a new Item and add it to the BOM at the same time, this is great. However, the new Item doesn't have a title or a description. To enter a title or description, we have to exit edit mode of the parent item, click yes to save, right click the child item, Open the new item, click the edit button, then type in the data for title or description. If we've created 10 new child items, that becomes a real unfriendly and painful workflow.

 

I'd love a 'right click > Edit Properties' function for child Items in the BOM. This would bring up a dialogue box to enter properties for that Item, title/desc/custom props etc. Something like this:

 

Edit Props.jpg

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Neil_Cross

Vault Open > Update Properties

Status: New Idea
by *Expert Elite* on ‎10-06-2014 05:51 AM

I understand this issue is already with the product dev team, but as it still hasn't happened and made it through to RTM software, I think it should be formally logged here.

 

I've had to instruct and be quite strict on users in that they're under no circumstances allowed to open any CAD drawing/file/model directly from Vault.  So no right clicking on files in Vault and using 'Open'.  Why?

 

Two reasons.  The first was that the files opened using Released Bias settings.  That was resolved in Vault 2015, but not quite enough to make it usable.

 

Second reason is that properties are not synchronised during the open, so title blocks & iProperties don't update during the open.  It can be manually updated after the open but I have too many users to expect this to always be done.  

 

Please offer the property sync on Open through Vault.  This happens when opening via the CAD client, need it when opening from Vault.

 

Thanks

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Neil_Cross

ECO Properties Don't Follow The Rules

Status: New Idea
by *Expert Elite* on ‎10-06-2014 04:51 AM

All Vault properties are subject to rules such as "Requires Value" and "Minimum Length".  If a property does not have a Value or meet the minimum length, a property non-compliance is raised and requires user input to rectify.  This is really important for when a property must be completed for audit purposes and especially for exporting data into ERP systems.  

 

ECO properties have these rules but they are completely ignored.  I need to make sure users enter a value for these ECO properties but the only method in which I have to enforce this is not working, at all.  Please fix ASAP.

 

ECO Property.jpg

2 Kudos
Neil_Cross

Item BOM Quantity on Drag & Drop

Status: New Idea
by *Expert Elite* on ‎10-06-2014 04:18 AM

The new Item drag & drop is really useful, but the quantity remains the same as the source Item BOM following the drag & drop.  Nobody can really say it will never be the same, but I would presume in most cases the quantity will be different.  I suggest a prompt for new quantity, or reset the quantity to a null value enforcing the user to enter a new quantity.  Or make a variable admin option to control the preference.

 

BOM Quantity.jpg 

2 Kudos
Neil_Cross

No tooltip for Group By function in Item

Status: New Idea
by *Expert Elite* on ‎10-06-2014 04:10 AM

Very minor, not important.  But a slight irritation when having to explain this function to users.

The 'Group By' button which appears on the 'Parts Only' view of an Item BOM, when hovering the mouse cursor over this button there is no tooltip describing what this is.  Literally every other button has a tooltip except this one.  The button still works, but it's a nuisance for when telling users which button does which job, I have to describe it via it's proximity to something else rather than the tooltip which is a standard go-to for Windows Applications.

 

Tooltip.jpg

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Neil_Cross

Item Save As, Needs Better Access

Status: New Idea
by *Expert Elite* on ‎10-06-2014 03:40 AM

No doubt the 'Item > Save As' function is a massive benefit, so this is just a suggestion.

 

Currently to Save As, users have to open the source Item, click File > Save As, then close the source Item.

 

Preferably, there should be a 'Save As' option available when right clicking on an Item in the Item Master.  Something like this:

 

Save As.jpg 

 

 

20 Kudos

Description

Navisworks if great for comparing a historical and current model. It is not possible to load historical revisions from models to compare them to each other. On this moment you need to models with different names/file type to compare them.

 

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Impact

Not having this feature has a significant impact on the process for comparing models during design phase, particularly one which has a somewhat complex or large modeling projects.

Due to this product limitation, it might actually put users off from using Vault in combination with Navisworks. 

Severity                                                  

Medium-High

 

Solution

Streamline the UI functionality between all Vault add-ins. The best example is AutoCAD with the ability to use shortcuts, saved searches from the dialog. And make it this way possible to use Revisions of a file to be loaded. By solving this the users know what to expect when opening files from Vault.

 

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