I would like Autodesk to seriously consider adding Autocad P&ID to Product Design Suite to round out the package for skid mounted Routed Systems design industries. Industries such as mine require the use of Inventor Routed Systems, Autocad Electrical AND Autocad P&ID. Currently Product Design Suite and/or Plant Design Suite only include 2 of the 3. I think either one or the other suites should include all 3 for a more fully rounded package. Mentioned this to the Product Manager at AU2012, and putting the ide here was his suggestion... so lets kudo this sucker up and get it rolled into the 2014 packges.
Why don't you sell a 1.5 Suite, where customers can buy a 1.5 Suite and use two suite products simulataneously? i.e. One guy using inventor, one guy using showcase, 3ds Max or sketchbook designer or AutoCAD, etc.. but you can't use two instances of the same product.
Many of my clients want to be able to use a second program in the suite for short term stints like marketing doing visuals or the product development manager using sketchbook, etc. and it's notthe engineer who wants to use it.
Sell it as a SLM or NLM, charge 50% more on the licence and on the subs. It's one 360 account.
If they need another user, (e.g. one uses Inventor, one uses AutoCAD, one uses Sketchbook), then they can pay another 50%, an add-on to the 1.5 and make it a 2.0, 2.5, etc. but if they need two seats of Inventor, they buy two PrDS suites.
That way you're actually getting the suite to do what it was intended to do, growing the pool of licences and integrating it better in the workplace. In its current form its only being used by the designers or engineers who are too busy doing their work and are not utilising the suite to it's full potential. The engineer has enough work on his plate than to also learn 3ds Max when there's a guy in marketing already that knows how to use it.
Clients don't see the value of buying 2 PrDS' when the second user is only using it for Sketchbook or knocking up a quick AutoCAD drawing or doing a minor edit.
Instead of someone buying PrDS and then AutoCAD Electrical becuase they can't afford 2x rPDS-P's, they can buy a PrDS-P 1.5 and have both mech and elec guys working inconjunction and both enjoy the benefits of the suite too.
I just reinstalled the infrastructure design suite premium following a fresh install of windows. As I use a SSD as my primary drive I decided to install the programs to my secondary drive, the result was a loss of 14.4 GB from primary and 17.7 GB from secondary drive. Assuming the building design suite will be the same size that's 60GB for drawing software. That is bad enough but I know from previous cleanups of autodesk installs a large portion of that is duplicate content, given the array of programs included in the suites can shared libraries not be utilised more effeiently? Why is 14.4GB of content on a drive where the programs are not installed? Essentially there must be huge potential to streamline the suite to deliver a more joined up approach.
The alternative is to keep having to jump between multiple programs on one machine to get anything done meaning massive CPU and RAM requirements as we have at the moment. The only advantage to this setup is that there should be potential for customised design suites?
For example I do not need visualisation programs yet >50% of the suite is for vis (navis, 3ds, IW...), I do need design software but most of it is either in the ultimate suite or not maintained. I would prefer a suite with; Robot, SSA, C3D, M3D, RA and forget about the rest OR allow me to hire somebody to mess around with all the visual stuff on another PC to see if there is any value in it.
The programs and plugins could be easily tiered to allow people pay for a set number of apps from each tier this would not only give the client a better product Autodesk might learn what apps are pointless
I am attempting to install the design suite on a stand alone HP Z620 that is running all latest MS software (Win 7). The suite hangs up at step 44 of 46 remaining, when it is trying to install ACAD Mechanical 2014, and gives an error message that says "Allied Product is not found". Then the installation program stops running and shows all the products that did not install.
I suspected it was because there was no AutoCAD installed, and so I went to my subscription site and tried to download ACAD but the latest version I could find for myself was 2012. I downloaded that version and attempted to install it on my machine, but could not get past the serial number screen as the serial number and product version numbers would not match.
So, I have no ACAD on my machine and the Suite Ultimate refuses to install any more programs. I have attempted to reinstall the suite without any luck. This machine is new to me, only 5 mo. old, and I did transfer Inventor 2013 from the last year's suite onto the machine (but not the rest of the 2013 Suite Ultimate, only Inventor). 2014 Suite Ultimate was meant to be installed entirely on this new workstation as the other one has been retired. Does anyone have any ideas as to a next move?
There has to be a better way to deploy licensing across corporations. I'm in the process of upgrading our North American licensing to 1 Consolidated licenses server.
There should be away to install any application or suite in any order and have the license server see and use the lowest license in the pool of licenses. I understand that this was an oversight at first but I would say the workaround should not be considered long term solution and some serious thought should go into managing license pools from within suites.
What the current license structure means for me:
I will have to create multiple deployments onto an external hard Drive. Then send a drive to all IT managers and make sure they first install AutoCAD, then IDSS, then IDSP, then P&ID, then PDSU.
I also for a fail Safe. I have to exclude the lower apps from the higher deployments. (eg. IDSP will exclude Map 3D and AutoCAD from the deployment)
This is a logistical nightmare and makes annual subscription upgrades extremely difficult for my dept. Alone, much less when I strait building the deployments for North America.
I hope this helps and that you consider building tiered licensing into your network suites. You have tiered solutions for applications now (suites) but no tiered solution for licensing these suits... Installing in order is a workaround not a long term solution.
Push the suites for all that they are worth, but please don't forget to clean the crumbs that are left behind...
This is a mess....
Having a major issue currently with installing my AutoDesk Ultimate Suite. Problem is quite simple while the solution seems to be rather annoying. I have my computer built in a newer, more technology update fashion. I run a small yet fast SSD to only run my OS. The issue is this leaves practically no additonal space on my boot C: drive. I have a couple of other hard drives specifically for music, games, other very large programs. Well like any other major brand of software AutoDesk is attempting to install all of the Product suite, which is around 8-9GB of data on my boot drive C:. Put simply I just can not do that, the issue is I have not found a way to install the program on my alternative (non boot) drives and am quite frustrated.
I am currently very frustrated as this install process seems to be very old fashion as new technology has surpassed the needs to have a massive, yet very slow main C: drive.
Of course as luck would be it I can not get in contact with anyone from AutoDesk.
Product Design Suite is known for making products for many different industries, but much of these have mechanical and hydraulic components in them, which is why the suite is used a lot in the development of equipment for Construction and Agriculture - combine harvesters, tractors, bulldozers, etc. Therefore it struck me as odd, given the suite has "Mechanical" and "Electrical" aspects of AutoCAD, why it features Alias Design; not Alias Automotive used to create one of the most widespread products available.
Whilst the manufacture of automobiles and other modes of transport are an industry, the vehicles themselves are built for demographics of end-users based on a list of specific criteria, much like a vacuum cleaner or washing machine. Alias Automotive also offers all the features of Design, in addition to more advanced visualisation tools that are useful in easily adjusting the surface of a model, so it may more efficient in the final product.
I will stress, however, should Automotive be added to PD Ultimate, Premium and Standard could also include Alias Design so customers in the lower suites still benefit from the change.
In Adesk Premium I would would Not like to install : electrical, 3DSMAX design, Mudbox and
Showcase and inventor standard as I would like to install Inventor with routed systems.
Adesk standard suite: mainly I would like to install only :AutoCAD Mechanical with Sketchbook.
Is it any issue TO NOT install full standard / premium suites? If yes, what is the issue please ?
Many thanks for your answer.
Put Sketchbook Pro back in to Product Design Suite.
Not sure why it was removed....but I would like it back. The value of Product Design suite was reduced in 2015 when it was taken out.
im making this user friendly website that will use autodesk/solidworks and all other 3d soft ware
and work together in file downloading and uploading ...can i get any help in contacting the right people in autodesk to get
into the right channels
Why is there not a Product Design Suite Standard?
Each company I have worked for have only really made use of Inventor, Vault, AutoCAD and sometimes Showcase.
It would good to have a standard package with only these components.
Certainly the company I currently work for would be considering more licences if we could shed the cost of the programs we do not use. Surely other people are in a similar position?
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