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*Frank Trykoski
i-drop slowdown in IE 6
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09-19-2006 05:19 AM
Does anyone have a clue what's going on here?
I'm using Windows XP Pro with IE 6 and, for some reason, any web page that
uses i-drop loads at a crawl.
IE 6 didn't used to act this way so I suspect it's due to one of Microsoft's
patches. When I connect to an i-drop enabled web page, the connection
lights up, the visible portion of the page loads, then the connection stops.
When I tap the scroll bar, the connection lights up again and the page loads
the next visible area, then stops again.
I'm not the only one having this problem. Just this past week,
AccuStudio.com, an AccuRender rescource site, completely eliminated i-drop
from their pages because so many complained of the excruciatingly slow page
load times. As soon as they got rid of i-drop, the site returned to it's
normally fast page loads.
This morning, I went to Forestermoulding.com to DL some moulding profiles
and their i-drop enabled site was every bit as slow as AccuStudio's was
before they got rid of i-drop.
Does anyone know of a way to fix this or is this something Autodesk is going
to have to sort out with MS? Or should I just disable the i-drop control in
IE 6 and forget about i-drop alltogether?
TIA
Frank
I'm using Windows XP Pro with IE 6 and, for some reason, any web page that
uses i-drop loads at a crawl.
IE 6 didn't used to act this way so I suspect it's due to one of Microsoft's
patches. When I connect to an i-drop enabled web page, the connection
lights up, the visible portion of the page loads, then the connection stops.
When I tap the scroll bar, the connection lights up again and the page loads
the next visible area, then stops again.
I'm not the only one having this problem. Just this past week,
AccuStudio.com, an AccuRender rescource site, completely eliminated i-drop
from their pages because so many complained of the excruciatingly slow page
load times. As soon as they got rid of i-drop, the site returned to it's
normally fast page loads.
This morning, I went to Forestermoulding.com to DL some moulding profiles
and their i-drop enabled site was every bit as slow as AccuStudio's was
before they got rid of i-drop.
Does anyone know of a way to fix this or is this something Autodesk is going
to have to sort out with MS? Or should I just disable the i-drop control in
IE 6 and forget about i-drop alltogether?
TIA
Frank
Re: i-drop slowdown in IE 6
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09-19-2006 07:57 PM in reply to:
*Frank Trykoski
There are number of things that affect downloading the i-drop
1)The file size of the autoCAD drawing. Here what i-drop is doing is FTP the file to your temp file and insert to AutoCAD. Due to this if the size of your drawing is like 3D it will take time
2) Your internet connection. How fast is your connection.
One more thing. When you load the page there might me more images to show the i-drop then downloading this pages and compiled in your computer then
rendered on your screen. This process might take on the size
of your RAM.
From my study I gave my comment and these have factor for
download.
But Autodesk is still in pause mode for this
application and one day we might get more info about the product or might be open source and will have a chance to make this application better with the help of Autodesk.
Good luck
Sem
1)The file size of the autoCAD drawing. Here what i-drop is doing is FTP the file to your temp file and insert to AutoCAD. Due to this if the size of your drawing is like 3D it will take time
2) Your internet connection. How fast is your connection.
One more thing. When you load the page there might me more images to show the i-drop then downloading this pages and compiled in your computer then
rendered on your screen. This process might take on the size
of your RAM.
From my study I gave my comment and these have factor for
download.
But Autodesk is still in pause mode for this
application and one day we might get more info about the product or might be open source and will have a chance to make this application better with the help of Autodesk.
Good luck
Sem
*clintonG
Re: i-drop slowdown in IE 6
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09-22-2006 10:10 AM in reply to:
*Frank Trykoski
This has nothing to do with Microsoft.
The good news is there is a solution that requires websites to be coded
using AJAX which is A(synchronous) JA(vascript) X(ml) [1]. This is a BIG
THING on the web at this very moment and is rapidly changing how web
development is done. Microsoft calls their implementation Atlas.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W : 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W
[1] http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=AJ aX&i=55346,00.asp
wrote in message news:5334927@discussion.autodesk.com...
There are number of things that affect downloading the i-drop
1)The file size of the autoCAD drawing. Here what i-drop is doing is FTP the
file to your temp file and insert to AutoCAD. Due to this if the size of
your drawing is like 3D it will take time
2) Your internet connection. How fast is your connection.
One more thing. When you load the page there might me more images to show
the i-drop then downloading this pages and compiled in your computer then
rendered on your screen. This process might take on the size
of your RAM.
From my study I gave my comment and these have factor for
download.
But Autodesk is still in pause mode for this
application and one day we might get more info about the product or might be
open source and will have a chance to make this application better with the
help of Autodesk.
Good luck
Sem Message was edited by: Discussion Admin
The good news is there is a solution that requires websites to be coded
using AJAX which is A(synchronous) JA(vascript) X(ml) [1]. This is a BIG
THING on the web at this very moment and is rapidly changing how web
development is done. Microsoft calls their implementation Atlas.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W : 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W
[1] http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=AJ
There are number of things that affect downloading the i-drop
1)The file size of the autoCAD drawing. Here what i-drop is doing is FTP the
file to your temp file and insert to AutoCAD. Due to this if the size of
your drawing is like 3D it will take time
2) Your internet connection. How fast is your connection.
One more thing. When you load the page there might me more images to show
the i-drop then downloading this pages and compiled in your computer then
rendered on your screen. This process might take on the size
of your RAM.
From my study I gave my comment and these have factor for
download.
But Autodesk is still in pause mode for this
application and one day we might get more info about the product or might be
open source and will have a chance to make this application better with the
help of Autodesk.
Good luck
Sem Message was edited by: Discussion Admin
Re: i-drop slowdown in IE 6
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09-25-2006 01:03 PM in reply to:
*Frank Trykoski
Yes AJAX is an interactive HTML that support web application.
But i-drop is not web application. It is a static (which the code is written and posted ). It works with XML not dynamically create a link.
How do you see i-drop with AJAX?
Please let us know if you have idea!
Sem
But i-drop is not web application. It is a static (which the code is written and posted ). It works with XML not dynamically create a link.
How do you see i-drop with AJAX?
Please let us know if you have idea!
Sem
*clintonG
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09-26-2006 09:24 AM in reply to:
*Frank Trykoski
Quoting the OP "...any web page that uses i-drop loads at a crawl." which is
generally true and correct in my experience noting my use of IE6 has
recently slowed to a crawl even slower than Firefox. Way slower. Loading an
instance of IE6 has really become a problem for me recently which is what
attracted me to this news article. I am still trying to determine the cause
but I have my suspicsions some of which I will comment on.
Whatever browser is being used, because the web is used to transport i-drop
assets we have to be smarter about using the web technologies.
The i-drop assets are transported in a container we call the "page" right?
A(synchronous) JA(vascript) X(ml) allows the controls in the page to request
resources from the server without the entire page being sent back and forth
from the server. In many cases it improves the performance of the page. In
others it simply helps make the page "look and feel" as if it were being
refreshed faster. In any event, there's no need to send an i-drop asset
"over the wire" until it is actually needed and AJAX makes that possible.
The i-drop ActiveX control will still be required to view an asset in the
page of course. The reason IE6 may be slowing down when trying to load
i-drop assets may be due to the Eolas lawsuit which has compelled Microsoft
to modify IE [1] to change the way ActiveX controls are used. I am presuming
those websites the OP referred to may not have been modified to comply with
the work-around. Submitting what is now considered malformed code to IE may
be causing IE to respond in such a way that imposes performance degradation.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W : 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W
[1] http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/oct0 3/10-06eolaspr.mspx
wrote in message news:5340353@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yes AJAX is an interactive HTML that support web application.
But i-drop is not web application. It is a static (which the code is
written and posted ). It works with XML not dynamically create a link.
How do you see i-drop with AJAX?
Please let us know if you have idea!
Sem
generally true and correct in my experience noting my use of IE6 has
recently slowed to a crawl even slower than Firefox. Way slower. Loading an
instance of IE6 has really become a problem for me recently which is what
attracted me to this news article. I am still trying to determine the cause
but I have my suspicsions some of which I will comment on.
Whatever browser is being used, because the web is used to transport i-drop
assets we have to be smarter about using the web technologies.
The i-drop assets are transported in a container we call the "page" right?
A(synchronous) JA(vascript) X(ml) allows the controls in the page to request
resources from the server without the entire page being sent back and forth
from the server. In many cases it improves the performance of the page. In
others it simply helps make the page "look and feel" as if it were being
refreshed faster. In any event, there's no need to send an i-drop asset
"over the wire" until it is actually needed and AJAX makes that possible.
The i-drop ActiveX control will still be required to view an asset in the
page of course. The reason IE6 may be slowing down when trying to load
i-drop assets may be due to the Eolas lawsuit which has compelled Microsoft
to modify IE [1] to change the way ActiveX controls are used. I am presuming
those websites the OP referred to may not have been modified to comply with
the work-around. Submitting what is now considered malformed code to IE may
be causing IE to respond in such a way that imposes performance degradation.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W : 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W
[1] http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/oct0
Yes AJAX is an interactive HTML that support web application.
But i-drop is not web application. It is a static (which the code is
written and posted ). It works with XML not dynamically create a link.
How do you see i-drop with AJAX?
Please let us know if you have idea!
Sem
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09-28-2006 08:45 AM in reply to:
*Frank Trykoski
I want to get clear idea how you can implement i-drop with AJAX?
I did both i-drop page and AJAX page. AJAX is done with the controller that is done on Servlet Contain in the Web Application. While i-drop is a static HTML page that call XML file and read the parameters.
Where do you see the connection?
Did you do some example? Or can you give your idea in detail?
I am waiting.
Thank you
Regards
Sem
I did both i-drop page and AJAX page. AJAX is done with the controller that is done on Servlet Contain in the Web Application. While i-drop is a static HTML page that call XML file and read the parameters.
Where do you see the connection?
Did you do some example? Or can you give your idea in detail?
I am waiting.
Thank you
Regards
Sem
*clintonG
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09-28-2006 08:33 PM in reply to:
*Frank Trykoski
I code using C# and use ASP.NET on the server. I've used Microsoft's AJAX
Library to run two training projects so far. I intend to also learn the Dojo
open source AJAX library. So here's how I plan to try to do it when I can
work on AJAX some more later this week.
I would use JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) to instantiate a web service
that would return the i-drop asset to an Atlas:UpdatePanel.
On the page I would use a link to call a client-side function. The function
code is written using JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) which will allow the
function to instantiate a web service which goes to the server, gets the
i-drop asset and returns the i-drop asset to the page in the response of the
web service.
What part of the DOM of the page you want your client-side function to use
for display the i-drop asset is up to you. I would probably use an
Ajax:CollapsiblePanel control which on the client renders as a div that my
function can load the i-drop asset into and then call other functions from
the AJAX library to expand the div on the page so the i-drop asset can be
seen.
Does that make sense to you?
<%= Clinton
wrote in message news:5344091@discussion.autodesk.com...
I want to get clear idea how you can implement i-drop with AJAX?
I did both i-drop page and AJAX page. AJAX is done with the controller that
is done on Servlet Contain in the Web Application. While i-drop is a static
HTML page that call XML file and read the parameters.
Where do you see the connection?
Did you do some example? Or can you give your idea in detail?
I am waiting.
Thank you
Regards
Sem
Library to run two training projects so far. I intend to also learn the Dojo
open source AJAX library. So here's how I plan to try to do it when I can
work on AJAX some more later this week.
I would use JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) to instantiate a web service
that would return the i-drop asset to an Atlas:UpdatePanel.
On the page I would use a link to call a client-side function. The function
code is written using JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) which will allow the
function to instantiate a web service which goes to the server, gets the
i-drop asset and returns the i-drop asset to the page in the response of the
web service.
What part of the DOM of the page you want your client-side function to use
for display the i-drop asset is up to you. I would probably use an
Ajax:CollapsiblePanel control which on the client renders as a div that my
function can load the i-drop asset into and then call other functions from
the AJAX library to expand the div on the page so the i-drop asset can be
seen.
Does that make sense to you?
<%= Clinton
I want to get clear idea how you can implement i-drop with AJAX?
I did both i-drop page and AJAX page. AJAX is done with the controller that
is done on Servlet Contain in the Web Application. While i-drop is a static
HTML page that call XML file and read the parameters.
Where do you see the connection?
Did you do some example? Or can you give your idea in detail?
I am waiting.
Thank you
Regards
Sem

