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    *Frank Trykoski

    i-drop slowdown in IE 6

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    09-19-2006 05:19 AM
    Does anyone have a clue what's going on here?

    I'm using Windows XP Pro with IE 6 and, for some reason, any web page that
    uses i-drop loads at a crawl.

    IE 6 didn't used to act this way so I suspect it's due to one of Microsoft's
    patches. When I connect to an i-drop enabled web page, the connection
    lights up, the visible portion of the page loads, then the connection stops.
    When I tap the scroll bar, the connection lights up again and the page loads
    the next visible area, then stops again.

    I'm not the only one having this problem. Just this past week,
    AccuStudio.com, an AccuRender rescource site, completely eliminated i-drop
    from their pages because so many complained of the excruciatingly slow page
    load times. As soon as they got rid of i-drop, the site returned to it's
    normally fast page loads.

    This morning, I went to Forestermoulding.com to DL some moulding profiles
    and their i-drop enabled site was every bit as slow as AccuStudio's was
    before they got rid of i-drop.

    Does anyone know of a way to fix this or is this something Autodesk is going
    to have to sort out with MS? Or should I just disable the i-drop control in
    IE 6 and forget about i-drop alltogether?

    TIA
    Frank
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    Re: i-drop slowdown in IE 6

    09-19-2006 07:57 PM in reply to: *Frank Trykoski
    There are number of things that affect downloading the i-drop

    1)The file size of the autoCAD drawing. Here what i-drop is doing is FTP the file to your temp file and insert to AutoCAD. Due to this if the size of your drawing is like 3D it will take time

    2) Your internet connection. How fast is your connection.

    One more thing. When you load the page there might me more images to show the i-drop then downloading this pages and compiled in your computer then
    rendered on your screen. This process might take on the size
    of your RAM.

    From my study I gave my comment and these have factor for
    download.

    But Autodesk is still in pause mode for this
    application and one day we might get more info about the product or might be open source and will have a chance to make this application better with the help of Autodesk.

    Good luck

    Sem
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    *clintonG

    Re: i-drop slowdown in IE 6

    09-22-2006 10:10 AM in reply to: *Frank Trykoski
    This has nothing to do with Microsoft.
    The good news is there is a solution that requires websites to be coded
    using AJAX which is A(synchronous) JA(vascript) X(ml) [1]. This is a BIG
    THING on the web at this very moment and is rapidly changing how web
    development is done. Microsoft calls their implementation Atlas.

    <%= Clinton Gallagher
    NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
    URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
    MAP 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W : 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W

    [1] http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=AJaX&i=55346,00.asp



    wrote in message news:5334927@discussion.autodesk.com...
    There are number of things that affect downloading the i-drop

    1)The file size of the autoCAD drawing. Here what i-drop is doing is FTP the
    file to your temp file and insert to AutoCAD. Due to this if the size of
    your drawing is like 3D it will take time

    2) Your internet connection. How fast is your connection.

    One more thing. When you load the page there might me more images to show
    the i-drop then downloading this pages and compiled in your computer then
    rendered on your screen. This process might take on the size
    of your RAM.

    From my study I gave my comment and these have factor for
    download.

    But Autodesk is still in pause mode for this
    application and one day we might get more info about the product or might be
    open source and will have a chance to make this application better with the
    help of Autodesk.

    Good luck

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    Re: i-drop slowdown in IE 6

    09-25-2006 01:03 PM in reply to: *Frank Trykoski
    Yes AJAX is an interactive HTML that support web application.

    But i-drop is not web application. It is a static (which the code is written and posted ). It works with XML not dynamically create a link.

    How do you see i-drop with AJAX?
    Please let us know if you have idea!

    Sem
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    *clintonG

    Re: i-drop slowdown in IE 6

    09-26-2006 09:24 AM in reply to: *Frank Trykoski
    Quoting the OP "...any web page that uses i-drop loads at a crawl." which is
    generally true and correct in my experience noting my use of IE6 has
    recently slowed to a crawl even slower than Firefox. Way slower. Loading an
    instance of IE6 has really become a problem for me recently which is what
    attracted me to this news article. I am still trying to determine the cause
    but I have my suspicsions some of which I will comment on.

    Whatever browser is being used, because the web is used to transport i-drop
    assets we have to be smarter about using the web technologies.

    The i-drop assets are transported in a container we call the "page" right?
    A(synchronous) JA(vascript) X(ml) allows the controls in the page to request
    resources from the server without the entire page being sent back and forth
    from the server. In many cases it improves the performance of the page. In
    others it simply helps make the page "look and feel" as if it were being
    refreshed faster. In any event, there's no need to send an i-drop asset
    "over the wire" until it is actually needed and AJAX makes that possible.

    The i-drop ActiveX control will still be required to view an asset in the
    page of course. The reason IE6 may be slowing down when trying to load
    i-drop assets may be due to the Eolas lawsuit which has compelled Microsoft
    to modify IE [1] to change the way ActiveX controls are used. I am presuming
    those websites the OP referred to may not have been modified to comply with
    the work-around. Submitting what is now considered malformed code to IE may
    be causing IE to respond in such a way that imposes performance degradation.

    <%= Clinton Gallagher
    NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
    URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
    MAP 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W : 43°2'17"N 88°2'37"W

    [1] http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/oct03/10-06eolaspr.mspx



    wrote in message news:5340353@discussion.autodesk.com...
    Yes AJAX is an interactive HTML that support web application.

    But i-drop is not web application. It is a static (which the code is
    written and posted ). It works with XML not dynamically create a link.

    How do you see i-drop with AJAX?
    Please let us know if you have idea!

    Sem
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    Posts: 190
    Registered: ‎09-23-2003

    Re: i-drop slowdown in IE 6

    09-28-2006 08:45 AM in reply to: *Frank Trykoski
    I want to get clear idea how you can implement i-drop with AJAX?

    I did both i-drop page and AJAX page. AJAX is done with the controller that is done on Servlet Contain in the Web Application. While i-drop is a static HTML page that call XML file and read the parameters.

    Where do you see the connection?

    Did you do some example? Or can you give your idea in detail?

    I am waiting.

    Thank you

    Regards

    Sem
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    *clintonG

    Re: i-drop slowdown in IE 6

    09-28-2006 08:33 PM in reply to: *Frank Trykoski
    I code using C# and use ASP.NET on the server. I've used Microsoft's AJAX
    Library to run two training projects so far. I intend to also learn the Dojo
    open source AJAX library. So here's how I plan to try to do it when I can
    work on AJAX some more later this week.

    I would use JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) to instantiate a web service
    that would return the i-drop asset to an Atlas:UpdatePanel.

    On the page I would use a link to call a client-side function. The function
    code is written using JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) which will allow the
    function to instantiate a web service which goes to the server, gets the
    i-drop asset and returns the i-drop asset to the page in the response of the
    web service.

    What part of the DOM of the page you want your client-side function to use
    for display the i-drop asset is up to you. I would probably use an
    Ajax:CollapsiblePanel control which on the client renders as a div that my
    function can load the i-drop asset into and then call other functions from
    the AJAX library to expand the div on the page so the i-drop asset can be
    seen.

    Does that make sense to you?

    <%= Clinton


    wrote in message news:5344091@discussion.autodesk.com...
    I want to get clear idea how you can implement i-drop with AJAX?

    I did both i-drop page and AJAX page. AJAX is done with the controller that
    is done on Servlet Contain in the Web Application. While i-drop is a static
    HTML page that call XML file and read the parameters.

    Where do you see the connection?

    Did you do some example? Or can you give your idea in detail?

    I am waiting.

    Thank you

    Regards

    Sem
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