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    Distinguished Contributor
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    ACAD versions suitable for i-drop

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    11-09-2007 01:44 AM
    Does anyone have a list of which versions of ACAD/ACAD LT are suitable for i-drop?

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    Re: ACAD versions suitable for i-drop

    11-09-2007 07:37 PM in reply to: petercharles
    I-drop does not have any relation with AutoCAD version.

    It is an application that works with XML file and execute the AutoCAD "INSERT" command.

    type "INSERT" command on autoCAD command line and you will see that you will insert block from the file folder.

    The same way is true when you drag a block from the website you insert drawing block that is on the website. Please do not be confused by the image you see on the internet. This image is for your to look at it other than that it does not have any relation with the drawing that you are inserting.

    I-drop has ActiveX file that take parameters from the XML file that are writing and put on the server side with the drawing based on this it works with ANY AutoCAD version.

    If you need help give me your e-mail address and I will help you

    I have been supporting this news group for more than a year.

    If you have any question pleas let me know or you can e-mail me at

    Regards

    sem
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    Re: ACAD versions suitable for i-drop

    11-10-2007 05:58 AM in reply to: petercharles
    The reasons for asking the original question -

    First
    one colleague has ACAD LT 2000i, i-drop doesn't work.
    one colleague has ACAD LT 2004, i-drop works.
    I have ACAD Mech 2007, i-drop works and ACAD 2004, i-drop doesn't work.

    Second
    My project requires associates worldwide to be able to use i-drop to create layouts in ACAD based on a central source of blocks, but I've no idea who uses what version.

    I'm trying to avoid any false starts when I roll out the project in early December.
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    Re: ACAD versions suitable for i-drop

    11-10-2007 07:13 PM in reply to: petercharles
    That is a very good question

    1) First I do not have AutoCAD Mechanical 2007.

    Last year I have webster for some time and had example of
    i-drop example and works on AutoCAD 2002, 2005 and AutoCAD 14. AutoCAD 14 was release in 1998.

    From my 2 years experience, i-drop works with AutoCAD by taking "INSERT" Command.

    One more thing, when you use AutoCAD to Inventor you have to change one variable name. Now Since I did not do anything in AutoCAD Mechanical, this variable name might change or not.

    So from my experience It it work on one version it will work on the other.

    Let me tell you one case. One time I did I-drop for a company from my website and send all files to the company. When they put the files it did not work. My server was Apache theirs was IIS. So in this case it might varies.

    One last thing. Do you know XML ? Are you confident in editing XML files?

    If you read this newsgroup it is me who is supporting for more than one year. And most of the problem they have setting the path. Do you know where you setup the path?

    How do you plan to do your project?

    On mine I put the names on database and run my program and create all the XML files.

    If you need help you can contact me at "all_my_j at yahoo dot ca"

    I am not money hungry man and won't charge you a lot

    send me your xml files and will look at it

    Regards

    sem
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    Re: ACAD versions suitable for i-drop

    11-12-2007 05:37 AM in reply to: petercharles
    "First I do not have AutoCAD Mechanical 2007."
    I only have it because it was installed with IV R11

    "Last year I have webster for some time and had example of i-drop example and works on AutoCAD 2002, 2005 and AutoCAD 14. AutoCAD 14 was release in 1998."
    So logically it should work with my ACAD 2004.

    "One more thing, when you use AutoCAD to Inventor you have to change one variable name. Now Since I did not do anything in AutoCAD Mechanical, this variable name might change or not."
    Currently there are no plans to extend it to IV.

    "So from my experience It it work on one version it will work on the other."
    That's what I would have expected, although I seem to remember reading that it wouldn't work with some versions of ACAD LT.

    "One last thing. Do you know XML ? Are you confident in editing XML files?"
    So far my XML files haven't caused a problem.

    "How do you plan to do your project?"
    There's a web page with a Java applet. In the applet one button opens a new window which is the web page i-drop interface. For testing purposes it's on my personal web site and is operating fine, except for the ACAD anomolies described previously.
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    Re: ACAD versions suitable for i-drop

    11-12-2007 06:20 AM in reply to: petercharles
    "So far my XML files haven't caused a problem."
    From my experience. XML file is the main engine for i-drop

    XML file is the one that call the specific drawing, the path of the drawing, and the type of drawing that you are going to use. ie, AutoCAD, IV and other format.
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    Re: ACAD versions suitable for i-drop

    11-12-2007 08:26 AM in reply to: petercharles
    Yes, and all mine are based on the examples from Autodesk.
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    *Dean Saadallah

    Re: ACAD versions suitable for i-drop

    11-12-2007 11:18 AM in reply to: petercharles
    http://discussion.autodesk.com/search.jspa?numResults=25&inputEntered=true&source=viewforum%7C111&q=2004&objID=f111&search.x=25&search.y=10

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    Dean Saadallah
    http://LTisACAD.blogspot.com
    Add-on products for LT
    http://www.pendean.com/lt
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    Re: ACAD versions suitable for i-drop

    11-14-2007 02:50 PM in reply to: petercharles
    Hello Sem...

    You've been doing a good job trying to help others with iDrop but it is
    incorrect to say the XML file "calls" a specific drawing as an XML file is
    simply static text that is formatted in a unique way. The correct XML term
    is "declares" and your statement would be states as "The XML file contains
    text which declares the name of the specific drawing, the path of the
    drawing and the filetype of the drawing that you are going to use."

    Furthermore, the XML file is not an "engine" for anything. It is just a text
    file.

    Now I want Peter and others who may read this to know you do not speak
    English as your native language and on the basis of our discussions together
    in the past I am confident you are an experienced Java software developer
    and know how to get the job done.

    Hello Peter...

    So does that help explain what Sem is trying to explain?

    I know he's a competent Java developer and has tried to explain that the
    iDrop ActiveX control reads the XML file and makes it possible to drag and
    drop a file into one of Autotwit's software programs. Furthermore, I think
    Sem is trying to explain he has discovered inconsistencies with the contents
    of the way the XML file can be written which can cause failure with one
    Autotwit software program but not another. There are two issues here: one is
    malformed XML (incorrectly written for the circumstances of being used with
    buggy Autotwit software) and the second issue being the buggy Autotwit
    software and their refusal to continue to refine iDrop and document it
    professionally.

    If your project is as important as your comments imply I think Sem can help
    you as he has the technical epertise with iDrop. And you can hire me to help
    you figure out what he means ;-)

    <%= Clinton Gallagher
    NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
    URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/


    wrote in message news:5775116@discussion.autodesk.com...
    "So far my XML files haven't caused a problem."
    From my experience. XML file is the main engine for i-drop

    XML file is the one that call the specific drawing, the path of the drawing,
    and the type of drawing that you are going to use. ie, AutoCAD, IV and other
    format.
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    Re: ACAD versions suitable for i-drop

    11-14-2007 02:51 PM in reply to: petercharles
    Thanks for point that out. It helped me learn something.

    <%= Clinton

    "Dean Saadallah" wrote in message
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    http://discussion.autodesk.com/search.jspa?numResults=25&inputEntered=true&source=viewforum%7C111&q=2004&objID=f111&search.x=25&search.y=10

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