The past days I gave fusion a lot of tests and encountered many crashes. The software is still extremely buggy and prone to say good by even with very simple files.
Claas Kuhnen
Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit
Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University
Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design
I'm also experincing alot of crashes/hangs on my mac. I also use a windows machine which seems to handle F360 alot better.
I've tried turning all the graphics options right down to achieve optimal performance that that doesn't seem to make any difference.
It would be nice to get the same performance on both platforms.
I would hope my hardware would be capable of handling fusion?
Claas Kuhnen
Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit
Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University
Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design
well what shall i say - i've just booted up bootcamp and i've kinda seen the light 😞 Though Windows was ugly to me (booted the first time in about 3 months and took around half an hour to complete all updated and stop nagging my disk) Fusion360 was a complete difference on Windows. Though things nearly look the same the 3d view is much more performant and i've done some things where i know the mac version always has to "think" for a second and didn't see anything similar on the windows version.
I think this is difficult especially because Autodesk is advertising Fusion360 for beeing the only real CAD/CAM-Solution on a Mac. We all know that it's not Mac OS X's fault as there are loads of performant Apps running quite well. Maybe it's a bit like Scott said - the difficulty with cross-platform apps is nothing new. Though i don't need it to be a Mac-Look-and-Feel app i think it's crucial to be stable AND performant. That's what Mac users love their OS for and what works with lots of other professional apps quite well.
Regarding internet connection: I sometime experience quantities of crashes (one after another, say 10 in a single hour, for example) while I am connected to the internet. If I shut off my internet and continue to work offline... I get way less crashes. I can log in later if I want to let Fusion 'cloud' my work.
I will also echo: More crashes if I work faster. The more I 'pause'... the less I seem to get.
I am using a Dell PC, windows 8, and 8GB ram. My older (2008) Macbook Pro is way too crashy to use with Fusion, other than viewing a project.
Claas Kuhnen
Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit
Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University
Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design
Claas Kuhnen
Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit
Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University
Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design
I think there are at least a few separate issues.
Based on what I've heard, cloud-sync seems to be problematic across all platforms. Distributed databases and maintaining consistency are very hard problems.. but they're also (mostly) solved problems. I do it all day every day with Git and iCloud stores with very few hiccups (and the ones I do see are transparent failures with Git; iCloud seems rock solid). I'm not expecting iCloud levels of stability, reliability, and invisibility (Apple has all the resources in the world and it took them a long time to get it right) but it's definitely solvable, and cloud-sync failing shouldn't hang the application (also / on that subject - I'm not sure what happened, but as of the last couple of days, I'm now getting a ton of these
and I'm not confident cloud-sync has been successful even once since that started).
The UI / performance and related instability issues seem to be OS X specific.
I'm not sure which of the above is responsible for hangs on wakeup, but wherever it's coming from, it's become lumped into the frustrating facts of life that I can't close my MacBook with F360 running and expect not to have to force-quit and restart when I open it up again (to the point where half of the time I just exit the application to avoid that step).
There also seem to be some underlying issues under the hood that people are running into on all platforms.
I've not tried Cobalt but http://www.ashlar.com/products/organic-workflow.html looks interesting (despite the video and voice over making me cringe) so I'll definitely have to.. Inspire and Evolve from SolidThinking also look extremely cool. The others (Alias, Rhino, etc) I've seen before and played with but they seem to be more focused on surface modeling than end-to-end product design.
Claas Kuhnen
Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit
Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University
Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design
I don't mind them.. but I haven't seen a good alternative.
One thing I do hate about them though is this..
That's for a simple model that I didn't spend much time on and there are already seventy something in the subcomponents.
Claas Kuhnen
Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit
Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University
Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design
Aside from just generating an insane number of them for no good reason, I very often start a sketch, extrude or rotate, and then want to go back and keep doing something else with that sketch, but the parametric / timeline thing drives me nuts because it rolls me back in the timeline to when that sketch was made which means I lose reference and now if I do the wrong things in that sketch, I break the future geometry, so I'm stuck with the Sophie's choice of either generating more and more sketches in exactly the same plane for no reason, or turning off the timeline.
Claas Kuhnen
Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit
Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University
Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design
I think the concept could actually work - they just need to have an easy way to condense all of those overlapping sketches to a tablet of stacked translucent (but hidable) layers of pages rather than separate sketches.
Claas Kuhnen
Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit
Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University
Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design