power supply question

[Anonymous]

I'm looking at upgrading my computer at home, right now it's piece of junk,
P2-233 with 128 MB ram. I'd like to get a new MB and processor. My
question is, how do I figure out if my existing power supply is enough?

[Anonymous]

It likely will not work with the new mobo's
(motherboards).  The P4 has a special 4 pin connector, that the old Power
supplies did not have.

Luckily the most new cases come with a power supply
that is suitable for AMD and Intel chipsets, and they start around 35
bucks.  I say that because a new power supply is around 35 bucks
alone.  Might as well get the new case, and salvage the old machine as a
Linux tester, or a print server.

I always recommend Antec Cases and power
supplies.  I have never had any trouble from antec.

this one is 74 bucks with 10.00 shipping from
newegg:

 
href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=7&manufactory=1516&DEPA=...

Check out Staples, Pricegrabber, and Newegg for the
best prices.

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> I'm looking at
upgrading my computer at home, right now it's piece of junk,
> P2-233 with
128 MB ram.  I'd like to get a new MB and processor.  My
>
question is, how do I figure out if my existing power supply is enough?
>

>

[Anonymous]

do you think the new MBs will not fit in the older
cases?

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It likely will not work with the new mobo's
(motherboards).  The P4 has a special 4 pin connector, that the old Power
supplies did not have.

Luckily the most new cases come with a power
supply that is suitable for AMD and Intel chipsets, and they start around 35
bucks.  I say that because a new power supply is around 35 bucks
alone.  Might as well get the new case, and salvage the old machine as a
Linux tester, or a print server.

I always recommend Antec Cases and power
supplies.  I have never had any trouble from antec.

this one is 74 bucks with 10.00 shipping from
newegg:

 
href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=7&manufactory=1516&DEP...

Check out Staples, Pricegrabber, and Newegg for
the best prices.

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> I'm looking at
upgrading my computer at home, right now it's piece of junk,
> P2-233
with 128 MB ram.  I'd like to get a new MB and processor. 
My
> question is, how do I figure out if my existing power supply is
enough?
>
>

[Anonymous]

It probably isn't enough. The new MBs require more power, and some (not only
Intel) require a 12v1 (4 pin) connector.
The board may fit the case, but you'll need a new PSU IMO.
Considering the price, I would get a whole new case with PSU. It will also
come with better USB connections.



"Keith" wrote in message
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> I'm looking at upgrading my computer at home, right now it's piece of
junk,
> P2-233 with 128 MB ram. I'd like to get a new MB and processor. My
> question is, how do I figure out if my existing power supply is enough?
>
>

[Anonymous]

if your old case is ATX then yes, but not recommended.

"Keith" wrote in message
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> do you think the new MBs will not fit in the older cases?
> "Dave Mullins" wrote in message
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> It likely will not work with the new mobo's (motherboards). The P4 has
a special 4 pin connector, that the old Power supplies did not have.
>
> Luckily the most new cases come with a power supply that is suitable for
AMD and Intel chipsets, and they start around 35 bucks. I say that because
a new power supply is around 35 bucks alone. Might as well get the new
case, and salvage the old machine as a Linux tester, or a print server.
> I always recommend Antec Cases and power supplies. I have never had any
trouble from antec.
> this one is 74 bucks with 10.00 shipping from newegg:
> ANTEC PERFORMANCE II WORKSTATION TOWER ATX Model# SX835II w/350W SMART
POWER ATX12V P4 COMPLIANT POWER SUPPLY.
>
> Check out Staples, Pricegrabber, and Newegg for the best prices.
>
> "Keith" wrote in message
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> > I'm looking at upgrading my computer at home, right now it's piece of
junk,
> > P2-233 with 128 MB ram. I'd like to get a new MB and processor. My
> > question is, how do I figure out if my existing power supply is
enough?
> >
> >

[Anonymous]

If it is an ATX mobo it will fit in any ATX
case.  My next pc is going to be another mini ITX, they are so cool. 
Check this site out if you are planning on building up a new pc.
href="http://www.mini-itx.com/">http://www.mini-itx.com/

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do you think the new MBs will not fit in the
older cases?

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It likely will not work with the new mobo's
(motherboards).  The P4 has a special 4 pin connector, that the old
Power supplies did not have.

Luckily the most new cases come with a power
supply that is suitable for AMD and Intel chipsets, and they start around 35
bucks.  I say that because a new power supply is around 35 bucks
alone.  Might as well get the new case, and salvage the old machine as
a Linux tester, or a print server.

I always recommend Antec Cases and power
supplies.  I have never had any trouble from antec.

this one is 74 bucks with 10.00 shipping from
newegg:

 
href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=7&manufactory=1516&D...

Check out Staples, Pricegrabber, and Newegg for
the best prices.

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> I'm looking
at upgrading my computer at home, right now it's piece of junk,
>
P2-233 with 128 MB ram.  I'd like to get a new MB and processor. 
My
> question is, how do I figure out if my existing power supply is
enough?
>
>

[Anonymous]

Take a peak at this site: http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/

[Anonymous]

www.tigerdirect.com

That is the only computer site you will probably ever need... unless you get
really techified!!!

--
"Quoting is a contradiction of my originality."



"Keith" wrote in message
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> I'm looking at upgrading my computer at home, right now it's piece of
junk,
> P2-233 with 128 MB ram. I'd like to get a new MB and processor. My
> question is, how do I figure out if my existing power supply is enough?
>
>

[Anonymous]

Tiger is quite expensive, there are many other places with much better
deals.

[Anonymous]

True, but when you can rely upon service, on time delivery (2 days MAX on
normal delivery where I am), and rebate and refund policies that work rather
well, you can't beat'em. I like Tiger because of its product variety and
user-friendly site... not because of the free catalog twice a month. 🙂

He is right, there are many others out there... just make the best decision
based on your needs. Tiger just meets mine.



"Jimmy B." wrote in message
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> Tiger is quite expensive, there are many other places with much better
> deals.
>
>

[Anonymous]

I think I'm going to just get a new case with power supply.

"Dustin Harris" wrote in message
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> True, but when you can rely upon service, on time delivery (2 days MAX on
> normal delivery where I am), and rebate and refund policies that work
rather
> well, you can't beat'em. I like Tiger because of its product variety and
> user-friendly site... not because of the free catalog twice a month. 🙂
>
> He is right, there are many others out there... just make the best
decision
> based on your needs. Tiger just meets mine.
>
>
>
> "Jimmy B." wrote in message
> news:f19ba2b.7@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Tiger is quite expensive, there are many other places with much better
> > deals.
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

I guess I'm fortunate enough that if I want to pay normal retail prices that
Tiger offers I can go to two different "warehouse" computer stores in my
area and get the same thing for less on the same day.
"Dustin Harris" wrote in message
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> True, but when you can rely upon service, on time delivery (2 days MAX on
> normal delivery where I am), and rebate and refund policies that work
rather
> well, you can't beat'em. I like Tiger because of its product variety and
> user-friendly site... not because of the free catalog twice a month. 🙂
>
> He is right, there are many others out there... just make the best
decision
> based on your needs. Tiger just meets mine.
>
>
>
> "Jimmy B." wrote in message
> news:f19ba2b.7@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Tiger is quite expensive, there are many other places with much better
> > deals.
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

That is real nice.

Are they good enough to run Arch Desktop 2004, Viz 4, and other regular
office stuff?

What do you do about a case?

Jack Talsky

[Anonymous]

I would get a nice case...without the power supply. Cases vary in price of
course.

My power supply is the Enermax EG465P. It is over $100 if I remember right,
but it is on the top end, has sufficient power, manually adjustable fan
speeds, is relatively quiet, runs cool, easy to install.

How can you get a decent power supply when the case and the power supply is
$50?

Power supply is a key ingrediant to a happy and stable relationship with
your computer.

Jack



"Keith" wrote in message
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> I think I'm going to just get a new case with power supply.
>
> "Dustin Harris" wrote in message
> news:E81372DEF2551E98372CA2DB885A19AE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > True, but when you can rely upon service, on time delivery (2 days MAX
on
> > normal delivery where I am), and rebate and refund policies that work
> rather
> > well, you can't beat'em. I like Tiger because of its product variety and
> > user-friendly site... not because of the free catalog twice a month. 🙂
> >
> > He is right, there are many others out there... just make the best
> decision
> > based on your needs. Tiger just meets mine.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jimmy B." wrote in message
> > news:f19ba2b.7@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Tiger is quite expensive, there are many other places with much better
> > > deals.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

Then tell me Mr. Talsky.... What should I look for in a power supply. I'm
not a tight budget too.


"Talsky" wrote in message
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> I would get a nice case...without the power supply. Cases vary in price
of
> course.
>
> My power supply is the Enermax EG465P. It is over $100 if I remember
right,
> but it is on the top end, has sufficient power, manually adjustable fan
> speeds, is relatively quiet, runs cool, easy to install.
>
> How can you get a decent power supply when the case and the power supply
is
> $50?
>
> Power supply is a key ingrediant to a happy and stable relationship with
> your computer.
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> "Keith" wrote in message
> news:20A7FD5D059524816F6D3C2FA489DD04@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I think I'm going to just get a new case with power supply.
> >
> > "Dustin Harris" wrote in message
> > news:E81372DEF2551E98372CA2DB885A19AE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > True, but when you can rely upon service, on time delivery (2 days MAX
> on
> > > normal delivery where I am), and rebate and refund policies that work
> > rather
> > > well, you can't beat'em. I like Tiger because of its product variety
and
> > > user-friendly site... not because of the free catalog twice a month.
:)
> > >
> > > He is right, there are many others out there... just make the best
> > decision
> > > based on your needs. Tiger just meets mine.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jimmy B." wrote in message
> > > news:f19ba2b.7@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Tiger is quite expensive, there are many other places with much
better
> > > > deals.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

My advice is to junk the PII and move to a modern PC. Even though you
may think you can upgrade, the truth is that if the bare bones PC is
that old (mobo, CPU, memory), then the rest of the box is probably
junk too.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com


On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:04:44 -0800, "Keith" wrote:

>I'm looking at upgrading my computer at home, right now it's piece of junk,
>P2-233 with 128 MB ram. I'd like to get a new MB and processor. My
>question is, how do I figure out if my existing power supply is enough?
>

[Anonymous]

Thanks Matt. I've desided if I'm going to do it, I'm building a new one.
I"ll be saving some parts from the old machine to use in the new one to save
costs, My main thing is I need, ah, want something faster than I currently
have.


"Matt Stachoni" wrote in message
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> My advice is to junk the PII and move to a modern PC. Even though you
> may think you can upgrade, the truth is that if the bare bones PC is
> that old (mobo, CPU, memory), then the rest of the box is probably
> junk too.
>
> Matt
> mstachoni@comcast.net
> mstachoni@bhhtait.com
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:04:44 -0800, "Keith" wrote:
>
> >I'm looking at upgrading my computer at home, right now it's piece of
junk,
> >P2-233 with 128 MB ram. I'd like to get a new MB and processor. My
> >question is, how do I figure out if my existing power supply is enough?
> >
>

[Anonymous]

Keith,

You can probably reuse the floppy drive. That's about it.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:05:13 -0800, "Keith" wrote:

>Thanks Matt. I've desided if I'm going to do it, I'm building a new one.
>I"ll be saving some parts from the old machine to use in the new one to save
>costs, My main thing is I need, ah, want something faster than I currently
>have.

[Anonymous]

nope, I've got an old Gateway that has a curved case front, so it's not the
extra long ejector button. I've got one at work I can get.

"Matt Stachoni" wrote in message
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> Keith,
>
> You can probably reuse the floppy drive. That's about it.
>
> Matt
> mstachoni@comcast.net
> mstachoni@bhhtait.com
>
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:05:13 -0800, "Keith" wrote:
>
> >Thanks Matt. I've desided if I'm going to do it, I'm building a new one.
> >I"ll be saving some parts from the old machine to use in the new one to
save
> >costs, My main thing is I need, ah, want something faster than I
currently
> >have.