How Long Has Your Dell Monitor Lasted?

[Anonymous]

Subject pretty much says it all. I've had one of the 20" models
for a few years (6 or 7 probably) and I'm having issues with it
now. The first 3" for the right hand side of the screen it freaking
out. Sometimes it is fine, others it is all sorts of swirling colors,
constant rainbow vertical stripes, or like now, it is solid black.

Just wondering if theses things have a typical "shelf-life"

[Anonymous]

On 5/27/2010 12:01 PM, Jason Piercey wrote:
> Subject pretty much says it all. I've had one of the 20" models
> for a few years (6 or 7 probably) and I'm having issues with it
> now. The first 3" for the right hand side of the screen it freaking
> out. Sometimes it is fine, others it is all sorts of swirling colors,
> constant rainbow vertical stripes, or like now, it is solid black.
>
> Just wondering if theses things have a typical "shelf-life"

I think that 6 or 7 years is a long time for an monitor to last. My
ViewSonics only last a couple of years on average. My wife's monitor
just died (black screen with vertical grey lines) and I bought her a new
24" wide screen ViewSonic for $209 so to me that's cheap enough that I
wouldn't put up with my screen freaking out.

YMMV,
--
Dave - DDP
Acad 2011 and Revit 2011
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
12GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[Anonymous]

If I could get a Dell 24" widescreen (16:10) for $200ish, I'd be
all over it... but they want at least $500. We are a company,
like many others I'm sure, trying to survive so the price tag is a
little hefty for the boss to swallow.

"Dave Jones" wrote in message news:6398908@discussion.autodesk.com...
On 5/27/2010 12:01 PM, Jason Piercey wrote:

I think that 6 or 7 years is a long time for an monitor to last. My
ViewSonics only last a couple of years on average. My wife's monitor
just died (black screen with vertical grey lines) and I bought her a new
24" wide screen ViewSonic for $209 so to me that's cheap enough that I
wouldn't put up with my screen freaking out.

YMMV,

[Anonymous]

So don't get a Dell. Unless color fidelity, unusually high resolution
for a particular size, or high refresh rate is critical, there is no
reason to get an expensive monitor. Acer, AOC, etc make perfectly
adequate monitors for typical cad users.

On 5/27/2010 3:44 PM, Jason Piercey wrote:
> If I could get a Dell 24" widescreen (16:10) for $200ish, I'd be
> all over it... but they want at least $500. We are a company,
> like many others I'm sure, trying to survive so the price tag is a
> little hefty for the boss to swallow.
>
> "Dave Jones" wrote in message news:6398908@discussion.autodesk.com...
> On 5/27/2010 12:01 PM, Jason Piercey wrote:
>
> I think that 6 or 7 years is a long time for an monitor to last. My
> ViewSonics only last a couple of years on average. My wife's monitor
> just died (black screen with vertical grey lines) and I bought her a new
> 24" wide screen ViewSonic for $209 so to me that's cheap enough that I
> wouldn't put up with my screen freaking out.
>
> YMMV,

[Anonymous]

On 5/27/2010 1:38 PM, jg wrote:
> So don't get a Dell. Unless color fidelity, unusually high resolution
> for a particular size, or high refresh rate is critical, there is no
> reason to get an expensive monitor. Acer, AOC, etc make perfectly
> adequate monitors for typical cad users.
>
agreed! My dual ViewSonic VX2433's work great for CAD work and IIRC they
cost $199 each at Costco.com. I'm a sole proprietor small business owner
and I'm not any different than any other company who realizes that the
time spent futzing around with a defective monitor costs more than a new
monitor...
--
Dave - DDP
Acad 2011 and Revit 2011
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
12GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[Anonymous]

The height adjustable stand (real height not a couple inches)
and the 16:10 ratio is fantastic. Bought a 22" Samsung not
long ago 16:9, 1080 max, and height adjustable stand (if you
can really call it that - Pfft.) was not so good after coming from
the 20" Dell.


"jg" wrote in message news:6398958@discussion.autodesk.com...
So don't get a Dell. Unless color fidelity, unusually high resolution
for a particular size, or high refresh rate is critical, there is no
reason to get an expensive monitor. Acer, AOC, etc make perfectly
adequate monitors for typical cad users.

[Anonymous]

On 5/27/2010 2:28 PM, Jason Piercey wrote:
> The height adjustable stand (real height not a couple inches)
> and the 16:10 ratio is fantastic. Bought a 22" Samsung not
> long ago 16:9, 1080 max, and height adjustable stand (if you
> can really call it that - Pfft.) was not so good after coming from
> the 20" Dell.
>

I've never found an adjustable monitor base that would work out for me
as I'm 6'-3" with short legs 🙂 I use this fantastic piece of high tech
equipment called a *box* to make my monitors the right height 😜
--
Dave - DDP
Acad 2011 and Revit 2011
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
12GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[Anonymous]

6 or 7 years isn't terrible, considering what you can get now for the same price
you paid for the 20" model.

I personally prefer a decent Dell over cheaper models. They simply don't
compare. For example, I can get a Dell U2410 (my current fav) for about $500 on
sale. The 24" Acer on my desk cost $200.

For the extra $300 you get:

Multiple HDMI and DisplayPort ports (important when you consider what's coming
down the pike soon - analog VGA has been dead for a while, and DVI will be soon
enough. Plus the ports are smaller and you don't have to deal with little thumb
screws which suck)

USB ports aplenty

Tons of extra controls

Sound connectors for the Sound Bar speaker (which ain't all that bad, actually)

Adjustable height and tilt (my Acer only tilts front to back, which is dumb)

A MUCH better looking screen, esp for colors.

Oh, and at 1920x1200 vs 1900x1080, a boatload more pixels.

Look at it this way: Paying $300 extra over a 6 year lifetime works out to less
than $4.20 a month extra for all that sweet goodness. That's less than 14 cents
a day.

Matt
matt@stachoni.com


On Thu, 27 May 2010 12:01:51 -0700, Jason Piercey wrote:

>Subject pretty much says it all. I've had one of the 20" models
>for a few years (6 or 7 probably) and I'm having issues with it
>now. The first 3" for the right hand side of the screen it freaking
>out. Sometimes it is fine, others it is all sorts of swirling colors,
>constant rainbow vertical stripes, or like now, it is solid black.
>
>Just wondering if theses things have a typical "shelf-life

[Anonymous]

I agree the 24" model is loaded with goodies. I use the
Samsung (1650x1080) and it was pretty strange coming
from 1600x1200. I didn't really think those extra pixels
would be *that* big a deal, but what a difference.

I'll tell the boss I'd be willing to chip in the 14 cents per
day over the next 6 years 😉


"Matt Stachoni" <...> wrote in message
news:6399129@discussion.autodesk.com...

Oh, and at 1920x1200 vs 1900x1080, a boatload more pixels.

Look at it this way: Paying $300 extra over a 6 year lifetime works out to
less
than $4.20 a month extra for all that sweet goodness. That's less than 14
cents
a day.

Matt
matt@stachoni.com

[Anonymous]

"Dave Jones" wrote in message news:6399056@discussion.autodesk.com...
On 5/27/2010 2:28 PM, Jason Piercey wrote:

> I've never found an adjustable monitor base that would work out for me
> as I'm 6'-3" with short legs 🙂

Guess you've never tried the Dell 🙂 Bottom of monitor at the lowest point
is 6" off the desk and it raises at least another 6" with ease. Some of the
other manufactures I've seen the lowest point is about 2" from the desk and
they raise a whopping 4" or so.



> I use this fantastic piece of high tech equipment called a *box* to make
> my monitors the right height 😜

Wow! Would you be willing to sell one of these magical devices? I'd pay
top dollar for it. 😉

[Anonymous]

On 5/27/2010 5:33 PM, Matt Stachoni wrote:
> 6 or 7 years isn't terrible, considering what you can get now for the same price
> you paid for the 20" model.
>
> I personally prefer a decent Dell over cheaper models. They simply don't
> compare. For example, I can get a Dell U2410 (my current fav) for about $500 on
> sale. The 24" Acer on my desk cost $200.
>
> For the extra $300 you get:
>
> Multiple HDMI and DisplayPort ports (important when you consider what's coming
> down the pike soon - analog VGA has been dead for a while, and DVI will be soon
> enough. Plus the ports are smaller and you don't have to deal with little thumb
> screws which suck)
>
> USB ports aplenty
>
> Tons of extra controls
>
> Sound connectors for the Sound Bar speaker (which ain't all that bad, actually)
>
> Adjustable height and tilt (my Acer only tilts front to back, which is dumb)
>
> A MUCH better looking screen, esp for colors.
>
> Oh, and at 1920x1200 vs 1900x1080, a boatload more pixels.
>
> Look at it this way: Paying $300 extra over a 6 year lifetime works out to less
> than $4.20 a month extra for all that sweet goodness. That's less than 14 cents
> a day.
>
> Matt
> matt@stachoni.com
>

ya know Matt, that's the same argument I used on my wife when I wanted
to buy a new Ferrari to replace my Tahoe. Didn't work 😜
--
Dave - DDP
Acad 2011 and Revit 2011
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
12GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[Anonymous]

On 5/28/2010 6:32 AM, Jason Piercey wrote:
> "Dave Jones" wrote in message news:6399056@discussion.autodesk.com...
> On 5/27/2010 2:28 PM, Jason Piercey wrote:
>
>> I've never found an adjustable monitor base that would work out for me
>> as I'm 6'-3" with short legs 🙂
>
> Guess you've never tried the Dell 🙂 Bottom of monitor at the lowest point
> is 6" off the desk and it raises at least another 6" with ease. Some of the
> other manufactures I've seen the lowest point is about 2" from the desk and
> they raise a whopping 4" or so.
>
>
>
>> I use this fantastic piece of high tech equipment called a *box* to make
>> my monitors the right height 😜
>
> Wow! Would you be willing to sell one of these magical devices? I'd pay
> top dollar for it. 😉

although I have absolutely nothing against Dell, I have always had
problems finding or getting what I want via website or even a phone
call. Just to much "stuff" to wade through. So I don't.

two problems with me getting you a magic box: I don't have your address
and they cost a LOT
--
Dave - DDP
Acad 2011 and Revit 2011
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
12GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[Anonymous]

Maybe you should patent this box technology. I'd be happy to work up the
drawings. Can I have $40?

BTW, I am using Dell at the moment. The monitors have been in service for
about 3 to 4 years. No problems, yet. I don't do any rendering, only civil
2D and a little 3D.

hth,

RicK


"Dave Jones" wrote in message
news:6399353@discussion.autodesk.com...
On 5/28/2010 6:32 AM, Jason Piercey wrote:
> "Dave Jones" wrote in message
> news:6399056@discussion.autodesk.com...
> On 5/27/2010 2:28 PM, Jason Piercey wrote:
>
>> I've never found an adjustable monitor base that would work out for me
>> as I'm 6'-3" with short legs 🙂
>
> Guess you've never tried the Dell 🙂 Bottom of monitor at the lowest
> point
> is 6" off the desk and it raises at least another 6" with ease. Some of
> the
> other manufactures I've seen the lowest point is about 2" from the desk
> and
> they raise a whopping 4" or so.
>
>
>
>> I use this fantastic piece of high tech equipment called a *box* to make
>> my monitors the right height 😜
>
> Wow! Would you be willing to sell one of these magical devices? I'd pay
> top dollar for it. 😉

although I have absolutely nothing against Dell, I have always had
problems finding or getting what I want via website or even a phone
call. Just to much "stuff" to wade through. So I don't.

two problems with me getting you a magic box: I don't have your address
and they cost a LOT
--
Dave - DDP
Acad 2011 and Revit 2011
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
12GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[Anonymous]

On 5/28/2010 8:30 AM, Rick wrote:
> Maybe you should patent this box technology. I'd be happy to work up the
> drawings. Can I have $40?
>
only if the model is 2011 Revit 🙂
--
Dave - DDP
Acad 2011 and Revit 2011
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
12GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[Anonymous]

On Fri, 28 May 2010 07:19:59 -0700, Dave Jones wrote:

>> Look at it this way: Paying $300 extra over a 6 year lifetime works out to less
>> than $4.20 a month extra for all that sweet goodness. That's less than 14 cents
>> a day.
>>
>ya know Matt, that's the same argument I used on my wife when I wanted
>to buy a new Ferrari to replace my Tahoe. Didn't work 😜

Well, instead of 14 cents a day, you are talking more like a $64 a day
difference between a $50K Tahoe and a $190K Ferrari.

Matt
matt@stachoni.com

[Anonymous]

On 5/28/2010 11:18 AM, Matt Stachoni wrote:
> On Fri, 28 May 2010 07:19:59 -0700, Dave Jones wrote:
>
>>> Look at it this way: Paying $300 extra over a 6 year lifetime works out to less
>>> than $4.20 a month extra for all that sweet goodness. That's less than 14 cents
>>> a day.
>>>
>> ya know Matt, that's the same argument I used on my wife when I wanted
>> to buy a new Ferrari to replace my Tahoe. Didn't work 😜
>
> Well, instead of 14 cents a day, you are talking more like a $64 a day
> difference between a $50K Tahoe and a $190K Ferrari.
>
> Matt
> matt@stachoni.com

yeah, but...well, crud so what if my analogy doesn't work? 🙂 Btw, a
fully loaded Tahoe in '08 was only $32.5k. Now I betcha they're cheaper.
Still would like the Ferrari though!
--
Dave - DDP
Acad 2011 and Revit 2011
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
12GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[Anonymous]

nope they are around $45k now for a fully loaded

"Dave Jones" wrote in message
news:6399712@discussion.autodesk.com...
On 5/28/2010 11:18 AM, Matt Stachoni wrote:
> On Fri, 28 May 2010 07:19:59 -0700, Dave Jones
> wrote:
>
>>> Look at it this way: Paying $300 extra over a 6 year lifetime works out
>>> to less
>>> than $4.20 a month extra for all that sweet goodness. That's less than
>>> 14 cents
>>> a day.
>>>
>> ya know Matt, that's the same argument I used on my wife when I wanted
>> to buy a new Ferrari to replace my Tahoe. Didn't work 😜
>
> Well, instead of 14 cents a day, you are talking more like a $64 a day
> difference between a $50K Tahoe and a $190K Ferrari.
>
> Matt
> matt@stachoni.com

yeah, but...well, crud so what if my analogy doesn't work? 🙂 Btw, a
fully loaded Tahoe in '08 was only $32.5k. Now I betcha they're cheaper.
Still would like the Ferrari though!
--
Dave - DDP
Acad 2011 and Revit 2011
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
12GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[Anonymous]

around $55k for a fully loaded hybrid

"Dave Jones" wrote in message
news:6399712@discussion.autodesk.com...
On 5/28/2010 11:18 AM, Matt Stachoni wrote:
> On Fri, 28 May 2010 07:19:59 -0700, Dave Jones
> wrote:
>
>>> Look at it this way: Paying $300 extra over a 6 year lifetime works out
>>> to less
>>> than $4.20 a month extra for all that sweet goodness. That's less than
>>> 14 cents
>>> a day.
>>>
>> ya know Matt, that's the same argument I used on my wife when I wanted
>> to buy a new Ferrari to replace my Tahoe. Didn't work 😜
>
> Well, instead of 14 cents a day, you are talking more like a $64 a day
> difference between a $50K Tahoe and a $190K Ferrari.
>
> Matt
> matt@stachoni.com

yeah, but...well, crud so what if my analogy doesn't work? 🙂 Btw, a
fully loaded Tahoe in '08 was only $32.5k. Now I betcha they're cheaper.
Still would like the Ferrari though!
--
Dave - DDP
Acad 2011 and Revit 2011
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
12GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[Anonymous]

On 5/28/2010 1:12 PM, Dustin wrote:
> nope they are around $45k now for a fully loaded

YOW! I'm glad I only do 7 or 8k miles a year!
--
Dave - DDP
Acad 2011 and Revit 2011
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Intel I7-860 @2.8GHz
12GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX260

[GilesPhillips]

We've got 2 pairs of 2000FP (the first of the 20" flat panels) and another 2 pairs of the 2007FP (later generation 20") and I am very pleased with them.

Okay they're not the cheapest, and the early ones are pretty thin on toys (no USB and non-adjustable stand) but given we bought the 2001FPs in 2003 and one has only just failed, then 7 years ain't bad.

As Matt says, the height, tilt, rotation and aspect adjustability are great, and the USB features are definitely a bonus.

I've also noticed that on all 8 monitors there are no dead pixels.  I understand there's a given tolerance for dead pixels, but to get 8 over the years with none at all seems better than most.

I believe the warranty is 3 years, and in my experience Dell monitors easily exceed this.