Does 2015 SP2 fix CW monitoring?

[HalloweenJack2]

Hi guys,

In the new release have they fixed the fact that you can't veiw other points in the timeline while in the CFX CC or CW menu?

Can't see it in the notes.

Cheers

[Grant.Kay]

Hi,

I searched for the original thread but I could not find it here…. Just remind me again of the problem…

I remember that you did not want to use the triptych view… Am I right?

Regards
Grant

[HalloweenJack2]

Hey Grant,

I've nothing against Triptych 🙂 I haven't got it to work any how.

I've been through it with a few people via email or phone and they usually say you can at first but then eventually say 'oh yeah, it doesn't work'

I'm quite prepared to say I'm wrong but still no-one's been able to tell me how to do it.

Say you have a sequence of various shots all with CC or CW on them as timeline FX (CFX now?)

When I'm in the CC or CW interface I can enter 2 up, 3 up or Triptych or whatever, but when you move the positioners to other shots and hit the blue monitor button on each viewer the broadcast monitor doesn't show the correct frame. For example, it always shows centre viewer's frame number in 3up or triptych.

It actually seems to show the frame you're parked on but with the effect (ie Result or Primary track) of the viewed monitor.

This used to work in Flame AE 2013. So since our last update I haven't found anyway to compare to shots while inside CC or CW.

Please let me know if I'm missing something.

Other connected annoyences are that the options of 'Timeline Range' and 'Positioners All Free' reset to defaults (ie turn off) everytime you move to another segment, so you have to keep manually selecting them as options. Personally I would choose to always have these on to compare shots.

And that the short cut (4 for me) to see Primary track doesn't work until you've selected it once from the pull down menu. F4 for Result works fine.

As I say, if you can shed any light on this stuff it'd be great.

As it stands I've been struggling like never before while grading on timeline.

Cheers

[HalloweenJack2]

Here's the original thread 🙂

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/general-discussion/really-quick-help-needed-in-2015/td-p/5033420

Cheers

[Grant.Kay]

This really needs to be checked out further.

From some initial testing, you need to enter the CW or CC with the triptych viewer already up. If you enter with a single player and switch to a 3-up view, you will not get the triptych functionality.

To me the main problem is that you cannot display the different viewers in the broadcast monitor? I am just trying to clarify that its not the actual UI that is giving you a problem.

As for the the timeline range and positioners not sticking, we are already aware of this one.

Regards
Grant

[HalloweenJack2]

For me at least starting with Triptych as viewer before going in makes no difference.

Because the Split View (Compare to Ref Buffer) also does not show on Broadcast monitor - and I really think it should! - I can't find anyway to flick between frames.

Reminds me of my longest running sugestion: a framestore that you can store a frame in (or 4) and then toggle on/off by pushing a button. this would need to toggle on Broadcast monitor.

After Effects has 4 of these and even old Editbox had one too.

It's a life saver for comparing positions, or colours. Anything that requires you to see minute differences between similar frames.

Thanks for looking into it Grant 🙂

[Grant.Kay]

Hi,

I will pass on the information about more information on the broadcast monitor.

About your longest suggestion… I just tried on Flame 2015 EXT 1 where I was in the Colour Warper looking at the Primary track. I was able to grab a reference frame, go back to my colour corrected shot and do a comparison. Albeit without a broadcast monitor. But there is definitely a working frame buffer.

Have you tried it? I had the split bar up with CONTROL+B and I was just pressing CONTROL+G to grab the current frame as a reference before correcting my selected shot.

Regards
Grant

[HalloweenJack2]

Yep have tried it and do use that all the time.

But as I say, I think it should work on the broadcast monitor.

Things can often look the same on the preview monitor but not on broadcast, for a start it's usually smaller while you're working. Especially in Batch

My point was that a quick toggle on the broadcast monitor while you're working is invaluable.

Thanks for looking into it 🙂

[HalloweenJack2]

...also... if you're showing a client how brilliantly you've matched a shot for them. They'd like to see it on a broadcast or large screen, not Flame's preview monitor.

🙂

[Grant.Kay]

It's all logged so its in the DEVs hands now 😉

Regards
Grant

[HalloweenJack2]

Great. Thanks Grant.

[frenetj]

I took care of the broadcast monitor issue.  You will get the fix in a future version.

Thanks for reporting the issue.

Jasmin