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*Young, Darren J.
Message 1 of 10 (57 Views)

DWF for Archive records

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12-05-2003 12:55 AM
Anyone from Autodesk want to officially comment on Autodesk's vision and
road map on using DWF files for archive records?

Specifically, I'm interested in differences between DWF formats and if
DWF files created today, will be able to be viewed in the future. If
AutoCAD can open an r8 drawing now, will DWF viewer technology take a
similar approach and always/usually, for a while/never support previous
DWF files format versions?

If it's not expected that older DWF format versions will lbe supported
several releases out, what types of utilities will be in place that
would help to "migrate" or "freshen" the files (something I could write
a batch processor for) at a later date?

Anyone else have comments?

--
Darren J. Young
CAD/CAM Systems Developer

Cold Spring Granite Company
202 South Third Avenue
Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

Email: dyoung@coldspringgranite.com
Phone: (320) 685-5045
Fax: (320) 685-5052
*Sheppard, Scott
Message 2 of 10 (57 Views)

Re: DWF for Archive records

12-05-2003 04:47 AM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
To date the DWF toolkit (common set of code that Autodesk products use to
read / write DWF files) has been extended so that it is backward compatible.
AEV will read DWF files created by R13 for example. The toolkit is available
on the web for download for free. It is reasonable to expect that this trend
may continue. Applications like WHIP! and Volo may come and go, but I think
Autodesk recognizes that the true value is in the customer data.

"Darren J. Young" wrote in message
news:MPG.1a3a74706603b5b5989693@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Anyone from Autodesk want to officially comment on Autodesk's vision and
> road map on using DWF files for archive records?
*Young, Darren J.
Message 3 of 10 (57 Views)

Re:

12-07-2003 10:47 PM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
> To date the DWF toolkit (common set of code that Autodesk products use to
> read / write DWF files) has been extended so that it is backward compatible.
> AEV will read DWF files created by R13 for example. The toolkit is available
> on the web for download for free. It is reasonable to expect that this trend
> may continue. Applications like WHIP! and Volo may come and go, but I think
> Autodesk recognizes that the true value is in the customer data.

Thanks for the comments Scott. I sure hope that's Adesk's philosophy. If
people are going to use DWF as record archive solution, it's going to
have to be readable in the future or provide some way of "freshening"
the files to newer DWF formats.



--
Darren J. Young
CAD/CAM Systems Developer

Cold Spring Granite Company
202 South Third Avenue
Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

Email: dyoung@coldspringgranite.com
Phone: (320) 685-5045
Fax: (320) 685-5052
*Support\
Message 4 of 10 (57 Views)

Re: DWF for Archive records

12-08-2003 05:11 PM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
Darren,

I have forwarded your questions and hope to have a reply for you soon.

VJoseph

"Darren J. Young" wrote in message
news:MPG.1a3a74706603b5b5989693@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Anyone from Autodesk want to officially comment on Autodesk's vision and
> road map on using DWF files for archive records?
>
> Specifically, I'm interested in differences between DWF formats and if
> DWF files created today, will be able to be viewed in the future. If
> AutoCAD can open an r8 drawing now, will DWF viewer technology take a
> similar approach and always/usually, for a while/never support previous
> DWF files format versions?
>
> If it's not expected that older DWF format versions will lbe supported
> several releases out, what types of utilities will be in place that
> would help to "migrate" or "freshen" the files (something I could write
> a batch processor for) at a later date?
>
> Anyone else have comments?
>
> --
> Darren J. Young
> CAD/CAM Systems Developer
>
> Cold Spring Granite Company
> 202 South Third Avenue
> Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320
>
> Email: dyoung@coldspringgranite.com
> Phone: (320) 685-5045
> Fax: (320) 685-5052
*Support\
Message 5 of 10 (57 Views)

Re: DWF for Archive records

12-08-2003 09:18 PM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.


Today we have Autodesk Express Viewer 4 (free
viewer) and Volo View 3 (chargeable DWG and DWF Viewer, redline and more). Both
products read the current DWF format (version 6) and all previous versions of
DWF.


Just like AutoCAD can open historical DWG file
formats, (2000, R14 etc based files) Volo View and Autodesk Express Viewer will
read historical DWF file formats.


We plan and endeavour to maintain this policy going
forward for both DWG and DWF.


For information DWF 6 is the DWF file version
produced from AutoCAD 2004 based products and from AutoCAD 2002 based products
when using the design publishing Extension.


Gavin Jackman


EMEA Product Manager, PTD, MSD and
Viewers


Autodesk, 1 Meadowgate Avenue, Farnborough Business
Park,


Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14-6FG, UK


Tel: +44 (0)1252 456619


Mobile: +44 777 (0)5695087


"VJoseph (Support)"

> Anyone from
Autodesk want to officially comment on Autodesk's vision and
> road map
on using DWF files for archive records?
>
> Specifically, I'm
interested in differences between DWF formats and if
> DWF files created
today, will be able to be viewed in the future. If
> AutoCAD can open an
r8 drawing now, will DWF viewer technology take a
> similar approach and
always/usually, for a while/never support previous
> DWF files format
versions?
>
> If it's not expected that older DWF format versions
will lbe supported
> several releases out, what types of utilities will
be in place that
> would help to "migrate" or "freshen" the files
(something I could write
> a batch processor for) at a later
date?
>
> Anyone else have comments?
>
> --
>
Darren J. Young
> CAD/CAM Systems Developer
>
> Cold Spring
Granite Company
> 202 South Third Avenue
> Cold Spring, Minnesota
56320
>
> Email:

href="mailto:dyoung@coldspringgranite.com">
size=2>dyoung@coldspringgranite.com

>
Phone: (320) 685-5045
> Fax: (320) 685-5052
*Rizzo, Jon
Message 6 of 10 (57 Views)

Re: DWF for Archive records

12-08-2003 11:58 PM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
Be careful using DWF to archive. We archived a few drawings with DWF but
never printed them. Now, they simply won't print, and I don't think that
they ever did. The open up in the viewer, but they won't print properly
unless I reduce them to 1/2 size. Make sure you print a copy of every
drawing at least once before you consider it "archived".





"Darren J. Young" wrote in message
news:MPG.1a3a74706603b5b5989693@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Anyone from Autodesk want to officially comment on Autodesk's vision and
> road map on using DWF files for archive records?
>
> Specifically, I'm interested in differences between DWF formats and if
> DWF files created today, will be able to be viewed in the future. If
> AutoCAD can open an r8 drawing now, will DWF viewer technology take a
> similar approach and always/usually, for a while/never support previous
> DWF files format versions?
>
> If it's not expected that older DWF format versions will lbe supported
> several releases out, what types of utilities will be in place that
> would help to "migrate" or "freshen" the files (something I could write
> a batch processor for) at a later date?
>
> Anyone else have comments?
>
> --
> Darren J. Young
> CAD/CAM Systems Developer
>
> Cold Spring Granite Company
> 202 South Third Avenue
> Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320
>
> Email: dyoung@coldspringgranite.com
> Phone: (320) 685-5045
> Fax: (320) 685-5052
*Young, Darren J.
Message 7 of 10 (57 Views)

Re:

12-09-2003 03:41 AM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
Volker,

Thank you for forwarding this and getting me a reply. I appreciate the
help in our research for considering DWF as out record archive solution.

Darren J. Young
CAD/CAM Systems Developer

Cold Spring Granite Company
202 South Third Avenue
Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

Email: dyoung@coldspringgranite.com
Phone: (320) 685-5045
Fax: (320) 685-5052


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In article <33AB8FC5A6801B9F58621CEEEC41D2C6@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb>,
"VJoseph \(Support\)" says...
>

Today we have Autodesk Express Viewer 4 (free
> viewer) and Volo View 3 (chargeable DWG and DWF Viewer, redline and more). Both

---snip---

--
Darren J. Young
CAD/CAM Systems Developer

Cold Spring Granite Company
202 South Third Avenue
Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

Email: dyoung@coldspringgranite.com
Phone: (320) 685-5045
Fax: (320) 685-5052

*Young, Darren J.
Message 7 of 10 (57 Views)

Re:

12-09-2003 03:41 AM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
> Be careful using DWF to archive. We archived a few drawings with DWF but
> never printed them. Now, they simply won't print, and I don't think that
> they ever did. The open up in the viewer, but they won't print properly
> unless I reduce them to 1/2 size. Make sure you print a copy of every
> drawing at least once before you consider it "archived".

Hi Jon,

What version of DWF was this? Was this recently or past?

For our purposes, viewing only should work but thanks for the heads up.
It's good to know what issues might come up and grab you in the rear.

--
Darren J. Young
CAD/CAM Systems Developer

Cold Spring Granite Company
202 South Third Avenue
Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

Email: dyoung@coldspringgranite.com
Phone: (320) 685-5045
Fax: (320) 685-5052
*Rizzo, Jon
Message 9 of 10 (57 Views)

Re:

12-09-2003 03:56 AM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
DWF 6. I am told that the problem I had was due to a large raster, but
there are probably other gotcha's that haven't bitten me yet.



"Darren J. Young" wrote in message
news:MPG.1a3fe03e5a926fa59896a0@discussion.autodesk.com...
> > Be careful using DWF to archive. We archived a few drawings with DWF
but
> > never printed them. Now, they simply won't print, and I don't think
that
> > they ever did. The open up in the viewer, but they won't print properly
> > unless I reduce them to 1/2 size. Make sure you print a copy of every
> > drawing at least once before you consider it "archived".
>
> Hi Jon,
>
> What version of DWF was this? Was this recently or past?
>
> For our purposes, viewing only should work but thanks for the heads up.
> It's good to know what issues might come up and grab you in the rear.
>
> --
> Darren J. Young
> CAD/CAM Systems Developer
>
> Cold Spring Granite Company
> 202 South Third Avenue
> Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320
>
> Email: dyoung@coldspringgranite.com
> Phone: (320) 685-5045
> Fax: (320) 685-5052
*Young, Darren J.
Message 10 of 10 (57 Views)

Re:

12-09-2003 06:20 AM in reply to: *Young, Darren J.
> DWF 6. I am told that the problem I had was due to a large raster, but
> there are probably other gotcha's that haven't bitten me yet.

And unfortunately, you never know what they are until you get bit. ;-)

--
Darren J. Young
CAD/CAM Systems Developer

Cold Spring Granite Company
202 South Third Avenue
Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320

Email: dyoung@coldspringgranite.com
Phone: (320) 685-5045
Fax: (320) 685-5052
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