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*Purviance, Greg
Message 1 of 8 (152 Views)

Creating DWF from Multi Sheet IDW files

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10-22-2003 01:23 AM

I am having some problems creating DWF files from
Multisheet IDW files.  The first sheet looks fine when I open the file with
AEV but when I go to the second sheet the lower left corner of the drawing has
been moved to the center of the sheet area.   then when I go back to
the first sheet it looks strange also.  Another item I thought was strange
is that the size listed in the DWF is metric, though everything about my IDW
including the plot size selected is in Inches.  I found a couple of threads
that got intense on the PDF vs. DWF issue.  I don't want to start that up
again.  I am just curious if anyone has found a solution to these issues
with the DWF.

 

The DWF were created with R7sp1 and the viewer
version is 3.1 build 3.1.0.92

 

Thanks

 

Greg
Purviance.
*Bartels, Joe
Message 2 of 8 (152 Views)

Re: Creating DWF from Multi Sheet IDW files

10-22-2003 01:35 AM in reply to: *Purviance, Greg
I have the same problem with off center
DWF's.  The culprit would be objects (views, geometry, etc) placed off of
the drawing sheet extents.  I usually place views outside of the sheet to
get a specific view and the Save As DWF will capture the whole drawing and then
re-center it. 

 

Unfortunately there's no work around within
Inventor other than making sure there's no objects outside the sheet
border.

 

I have found that the new DWFwriter printer driver
will work as long as you have the BestFit option selected.  This doesn't
work for us because we have a macro writen to save a copy of every IDW file
silently to a server location and the DWFwriter doesn't allow for
this.

 

Joe Bartels
*Autodesk\
Message 3 of 8 (152 Views)

Re:

10-22-2003 02:30 AM in reply to: *Purviance, Greg
This is a known problem with Inventor-7 produced
DWFs.  A workaround has been implemented in the next version of the
viewer.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

I have the same problem with off center
DWF's.  The culprit would be objects (views, geometry, etc) placed off of
the drawing sheet extents.  I usually place views outside of the sheet to
get a specific view and the Save As DWF will capture the whole drawing and
then re-center it. 

 

Unfortunately there's no work around within
Inventor other than making sure there's no objects outside the sheet
border.

 

I have found that the new DWFwriter printer
driver will work as long as you have the BestFit option selected.  This
doesn't work for us because we have a macro writen to save a copy of every IDW
file silently to a server location and the DWFwriter doesn't allow for
this.

 

Joe Bartels
*Evans, Garrick
Message 4 of 8 (152 Views)

Re:

10-22-2003 03:29 AM in reply to: *Purviance, Greg
Could you elaborate your last comment, please? What are you requesting that
DWFwriter do?


"Joe Bartels" wrote in message
news:FE8067F09A35E6676C9005FB6B4161DB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I have the same problem with off center DWF's. The culprit would be
objects (views, geometry, etc) placed off of the drawing sheet extents. I
usually place views outside of the sheet to get a specific view and the Save
As DWF will capture the whole drawing and then re-center it.
>
> Unfortunately there's no work around within Inventor other than making
sure there's no objects outside the sheet border.
>
> I have found that the new DWFwriter printer driver will work as long as
you have the BestFit option selected. This doesn't work for us because we
have a macro writen to save a copy of every IDW file silently to a server
location and the DWFwriter doesn't allow for this.
>
> Joe Bartels
*Bartels, Joe
Message 5 of 8 (152 Views)

Re:

10-22-2003 04:09 AM in reply to: *Purviance, Greg
Basically what I would like the DWFwriter do is interact with the Inventor
API correctly. Currently it will not run as a silent operation, or
PrintToFile out of the API correctly.

We currently use Inventor and the rest of our company uses Windows 98.
Since Volo View doesn't view Inventor files on Windows 98 I wrote a VB macro
that will save a DWF to a server location every time an Inventor drawing
file is saved. This macro runs silently and there's no interaction with the
designer. So far this has worked very well for us to distribute information
to our purchasers, vendors, and weld shop.

We have run into the problem with the DWF not centering correctly. I
downloaded the DWFwriter to test it out and it fixes the problem if you use
the Best Fit option. I tried to write a new marco that would now print the
DWF to the DWFwriter without any interaction by the user and ran into some
obstacles. The DWFwriter will always bring up the prompt to save the file,
even when you try to run the operation silently. I have also tried to have
the code PrintToFile and it will save an empty file to the server location,
and it still prompts for a save.

So, until Inventor has the same print options while doing a Save As, or the
DWFwriter can print silently or actually PrintToFile we have to just deal
with it. I'm not a VB expert by any means so I could be easily missing
something. I have also tried to contact Autodesk on many fronts and all
I've been told is Autodesk doesn't support any customization, even though
it's their API that's not performing correctly.

Joe Bartels

"Garrick Evans" wrote in message
news:05E4DA69E121BFDA81E0800BF361DD7D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Could you elaborate your last comment, please? What are you requesting
that
> DWFwriter do?
>
*Evans, Garrick
Message 6 of 8 (152 Views)

Re:

10-22-2003 04:47 AM in reply to: *Purviance, Greg
Joe,

Thanks for the detaled reply. If you haven't already, I encourage you to
get the beta version of DWFwriter 2. It is available here:
http://betaprograms.autodesk.com/betaweb.htm

This version has the option of suppressing the "Save As" dialog box and
providing a directory path for publishing the DWFs to. I should say that
there is a slight caveat in this however. The DWFwriter printer driver was
developed specifically for Revit which interacts with the driver more
intimiately than any other application does. Part of this interaction is
the exchange of the target DWF filename, and thus, no dialog box is shown.
The developers left in the "Save As" dialog box for the case when other
(non-Revit) applications would use the driver, though it is not supported.

Future versions of the driver will attempt to expand support across many
applications. However, it is still just a printer driver, not a software
library. As such, if an application is not inherently aware of the driver
it will not be able to specify the DWF filename directly. However,
DWFwriter 2 Beta does provide the option under "Advanced Properties" -> "DWF
Filename" to select "Don't prompt - use source filename". Make this choice
and the "Save As" dialog will not appear any longer.

When DWFwriter 2 Beta is installed, a string value in the registry is
created with an empty value:

HKCU\Software\Autodesk\DWFwriter\2\Publish Directory

Change this value to your desired target directory (with or without a
trailing \) and your DWF files will land here.

Your DWF file will be named based on the source file that was "printed" by
your application. I've tried an Inventor 7 file, and it came out named
"engine_assy.dwf"

I hope this will solve your immediate needs. Please don't hesitate to offer
feedback on the beta - please do so using the form provided at the beta
programs site however.

"Joe Bartels" wrote in message
news:667C9E924BD4D8ACF89EE51297B34341@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Basically what I would like the DWFwriter do is interact with the Inventor
> API correctly. Currently it will not run as a silent operation, or
> PrintToFile out of the API correctly.
>
> We currently use Inventor and the rest of our company uses Windows 98.
> Since Volo View doesn't view Inventor files on Windows 98 I wrote a VB
macro
> that will save a DWF to a server location every time an Inventor drawing
> file is saved. This macro runs silently and there's no interaction with
the
> designer. So far this has worked very well for us to distribute
information
> to our purchasers, vendors, and weld shop.
>
> We have run into the problem with the DWF not centering correctly. I
> downloaded the DWFwriter to test it out and it fixes the problem if you
use
> the Best Fit option. I tried to write a new marco that would now print
the
> DWF to the DWFwriter without any interaction by the user and ran into some
> obstacles. The DWFwriter will always bring up the prompt to save the
file,
> even when you try to run the operation silently. I have also tried to
have
> the code PrintToFile and it will save an empty file to the server
location,
> and it still prompts for a save.
>
> So, until Inventor has the same print options while doing a Save As, or
the
> DWFwriter can print silently or actually PrintToFile we have to just deal
> with it. I'm not a VB expert by any means so I could be easily missing
> something. I have also tried to contact Autodesk on many fronts and all
> I've been told is Autodesk doesn't support any customization, even though
> it's their API that's not performing correctly.
>
> Joe Bartels
>
> "Garrick Evans" wrote in message
> news:05E4DA69E121BFDA81E0800BF361DD7D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Could you elaborate your last comment, please? What are you requesting
> that
> > DWFwriter do?
> >
>
>
*Bartels, Joe
Message 7 of 8 (152 Views)

Re:

10-22-2003 05:14 AM in reply to: *Purviance, Greg
Thanks you very much. I'll try it this afternoon.

Joe Bartels

"Garrick Evans" wrote in message
news:6C46B5EE0938365369EEE9808032DEB9@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Joe,
>
> Thanks for the detaled reply. If you haven't already, I encourage you to
> get the beta version of DWFwriter 2. It is available here:
> http://betaprograms.autodesk.com/betaweb.htm
>
> This version has the option of suppressing the "Save As" dialog box and
> providing a directory path for publishing the DWFs to. I should say that
> there is a slight caveat in this however. The DWFwriter printer driver
was
> developed specifically for Revit which interacts with the driver more
> intimiately than any other application does. Part of this interaction is
> the exchange of the target DWF filename, and thus, no dialog box is shown.
> The developers left in the "Save As" dialog box for the case when other
> (non-Revit) applications would use the driver, though it is not supported.
>
> Future versions of the driver will attempt to expand support across many
> applications. However, it is still just a printer driver, not a software
> library. As such, if an application is not inherently aware of the driver
> it will not be able to specify the DWF filename directly. However,
> DWFwriter 2 Beta does provide the option under "Advanced Properties" ->
"DWF
> Filename" to select "Don't prompt - use source filename". Make this
choice
> and the "Save As" dialog will not appear any longer.
>
> When DWFwriter 2 Beta is installed, a string value in the registry is
> created with an empty value:
>
> HKCU\Software\Autodesk\DWFwriter\2\Publish Directory
>
> Change this value to your desired target directory (with or without a
> trailing \) and your DWF files will land here.
>
> Your DWF file will be named based on the source file that was "printed" by
> your application. I've tried an Inventor 7 file, and it came out named
> "engine_assy.dwf"
>
> I hope this will solve your immediate needs. Please don't hesitate to
offer
> feedback on the beta - please do so using the form provided at the beta
> programs site however.
>
> "Joe Bartels" wrote in message
> news:667C9E924BD4D8ACF89EE51297B34341@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Basically what I would like the DWFwriter do is interact with the
Inventor
> > API correctly. Currently it will not run as a silent operation, or
> > PrintToFile out of the API correctly.
> >
> > We currently use Inventor and the rest of our company uses Windows 98.
> > Since Volo View doesn't view Inventor files on Windows 98 I wrote a VB
> macro
> > that will save a DWF to a server location every time an Inventor drawing
> > file is saved. This macro runs silently and there's no interaction with
> the
> > designer. So far this has worked very well for us to distribute
> information
> > to our purchasers, vendors, and weld shop.
> >
> > We have run into the problem with the DWF not centering correctly. I
> > downloaded the DWFwriter to test it out and it fixes the problem if you
> use
> > the Best Fit option. I tried to write a new marco that would now print
> the
> > DWF to the DWFwriter without any interaction by the user and ran into
some
> > obstacles. The DWFwriter will always bring up the prompt to save the
> file,
> > even when you try to run the operation silently. I have also tried to
> have
> > the code PrintToFile and it will save an empty file to the server
> location,
> > and it still prompts for a save.
> >
> > So, until Inventor has the same print options while doing a Save As, or
> the
> > DWFwriter can print silently or actually PrintToFile we have to just
deal
> > with it. I'm not a VB expert by any means so I could be easily missing
> > something. I have also tried to contact Autodesk on many fronts and all
> > I've been told is Autodesk doesn't support any customization, even
though
> > it's their API that's not performing correctly.
> >
> > Joe Bartels
> >
> > "Garrick Evans" wrote in message
> > news:05E4DA69E121BFDA81E0800BF361DD7D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Could you elaborate your last comment, please? What are you requesting
> > that
> > > DWFwriter do?
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Bartels, Joe
Message 8 of 8 (152 Views)

Re:

10-24-2003 12:06 AM in reply to: *Purviance, Greg
I was able to look at it and it now works great. Thanks again for the help,
I'm now off to tell my boss. Now I just need to wait for the released
version of DWFwriter 2 to implement it.

Cheers,
Joe
>
> "Garrick Evans" wrote in message
> news:6C46B5EE0938365369EEE9808032DEB9@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Joe,
> >
> > Thanks for the detaled reply. If you haven't already, I encourage you
to
> > get the beta version of DWFwriter 2. It is available here:
> > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com/betaweb.htm
> >
> > This version has the option of suppressing the "Save As" dialog box and
> > providing a directory path for publishing the DWFs to. I should say
that
> > there is a slight caveat in this however. The DWFwriter printer driver
> was
> > developed specifically for Revit which interacts with the driver more
> > intimiately than any other application does. Part of this interaction
is
> > the exchange of the target DWF filename, and thus, no dialog box is
shown.
> > The developers left in the "Save As" dialog box for the case when other
> > (non-Revit) applications would use the driver, though it is not
supported.
> >
> > Future versions of the driver will attempt to expand support across many
> > applications. However, it is still just a printer driver, not a
software
> > library. As such, if an application is not inherently aware of the
driver
> > it will not be able to specify the DWF filename directly. However,
> > DWFwriter 2 Beta does provide the option under "Advanced Properties" ->
> "DWF
> > Filename" to select "Don't prompt - use source filename". Make this
> choice
> > and the "Save As" dialog will not appear any longer.
> >
> > When DWFwriter 2 Beta is installed, a string value in the registry is
> > created with an empty value:
> >
> > HKCU\Software\Autodesk\DWFwriter\2\Publish Directory
> >
> > Change this value to your desired target directory (with or without a
> > trailing \) and your DWF files will land here.
> >
> > Your DWF file will be named based on the source file that was "printed"
by
> > your application. I've tried an Inventor 7 file, and it came out named
> > "engine_assy.dwf"
> >
> > I hope this will solve your immediate needs. Please don't hesitate to
> offer
> > feedback on the beta - please do so using the form provided at the beta
> > programs site however.
> >
> > "Joe Bartels" wrote in message
> > news:667C9E924BD4D8ACF89EE51297B34341@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Basically what I would like the DWFwriter do is interact with the
> Inventor
> > > API correctly. Currently it will not run as a silent operation, or
> > > PrintToFile out of the API correctly.
> > >
> > > We currently use Inventor and the rest of our company uses Windows 98.
> > > Since Volo View doesn't view Inventor files on Windows 98 I wrote a VB
> > macro
> > > that will save a DWF to a server location every time an Inventor
drawing
> > > file is saved. This macro runs silently and there's no interaction
with
> > the
> > > designer. So far this has worked very well for us to distribute
> > information
> > > to our purchasers, vendors, and weld shop.
> > >
> > > We have run into the problem with the DWF not centering correctly. I
> > > downloaded the DWFwriter to test it out and it fixes the problem if
you
> > use
> > > the Best Fit option. I tried to write a new marco that would now
print
> > the
> > > DWF to the DWFwriter without any interaction by the user and ran into
> some
> > > obstacles. The DWFwriter will always bring up the prompt to save the
> > file,
> > > even when you try to run the operation silently. I have also tried to
> > have
> > > the code PrintToFile and it will save an empty file to the server
> > location,
> > > and it still prompts for a save.
> > >
> > > So, until Inventor has the same print options while doing a Save As,
or
> > the
> > > DWFwriter can print silently or actually PrintToFile we have to just
> deal
> > > with it. I'm not a VB expert by any means so I could be easily
missing
> > > something. I have also tried to contact Autodesk on many fronts and
all
> > > I've been told is Autodesk doesn't support any customization, even
> though
> > > it's their API that's not performing correctly.
> > >
> > > Joe Bartels
> > >
> > > "Garrick Evans" wrote in message
> > > news:05E4DA69E121BFDA81E0800BF361DD7D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Could you elaborate your last comment, please? What are you
requesting
> > > that
> > > > DWFwriter do?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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