Drafting Techniques

Drafting Techniques

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*Thomas III, Jeff
Message 91 of 102 (182 Views)

Re: CAD versus Hand drafting-the final conclusion

04-18-2003 04:21 AM in reply to: pipe0069
Who cares what the reasons are! "They" do it
successfully, maybe not as successful as they can be, but successfully (in their
eyes) none the less.


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I'm
looking for the reasons.
*PF
Message 92 of 102 (182 Views)

Re: CAD versus Hand drafting-the final conclusion

04-18-2003 12:15 PM in reply to: pipe0069
don't mind him- his opinion is _all he's
offering.
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old-cadaver
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Message 93 of 102 (182 Views)

Re: CAD versus Hand drafting-the final conclusion

04-20-2003 11:34 PM in reply to: pipe0069
Well the obvious answer to that is "I do". I'm curious as to why someone would choose to work less efficiently and more expensively. Is it for the art? Fine, a well turned hand drawing is definitly a work of art. Is it for nostalgia? Fine, I drive a '64 Mustang for no other reason.
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Jon_Kirkham
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Message 94 of 102 (182 Views)

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04-21-2003 12:23 AM in reply to: pipe0069
So Here's a scenario:

You have a project consisting of 80 or so drawings. You're batch plotting the lot with 20 or so left to go. Fedex closes in 1 hour. The Architect calls you with a change that MUST be incorporated into this release. There's not enough time to exit batch plot, make the change, and then finish plotting by deadline. The solution: Hand drafting. Make the changes, by hand, on the specific sheet, meet your deadline, and update the files after your drawing have left the building.

Or, by some freaky conicidence, all of your production drafters are our sick, and your engineers are too rusty with cad to issue a sketch. The contractor is waiting for the info to proceed. The solution- issue a hand drawn sketch so that work can proceed, have you cad ops create the electronic version when they come back

Or draw by hand because you feel like it. In some cases, hand drafting is just a fast as cad. We also get many a poorly drawn cad file. Is it faster and more efficient to hunt down every missed intersection and move all the linework to the appropriate layer? Or is it faster for us to draw the whole thing correctly the first time from a competently, but hand-drawn, plan?
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old-cadaver
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Message 95 of 102 (182 Views)

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04-21-2003 01:40 AM in reply to: pipe0069
ITEM 1 "Late Change" - That's what the Revision Blocks are for.

ITEM 2 "SICK DRAFTERS" - we don't have any. We have DESIGNERS and ENGINEERS, and all our engineers are proficient with ACAD.

ITEM 3 "Because you feel like it" - cool, see my post Apr/14/03 - 14:34 (GMT)

ITEM 4 "it's faster" - never.

ITEM 5 "poorly drawn cad files" - are as close as hand drawings, only slower.


NEXT?
*PF
Message 96 of 102 (182 Views)

Re: CAD versus Hand drafting-the final conclusion

04-21-2003 03:06 AM in reply to: pipe0069
because (for one) I don't sit at idle while on
vacation... and I don't bring any office parts with me while on vacation...
thus- draft by  hand when inspired...

 

(that is just one case)

 

I pity the slave to his/her toys who can't do
anything else.

 

Hold your opinion ... it's valuable to
you.
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old-cadaver
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Message 97 of 102 (182 Views)

Re: CAD versus Hand drafting-the final conclusion

04-21-2003 03:06 AM in reply to: pipe0069
You don't bring office parts, but you do bring a drafting board, parallel bar, triangles, pencils, etc.? Really?

I'm beginning to see the problem. I'm talking about hand drafting full-blown drawings, and you guys are talking about sketching, pencil and napkin stuff.
*PF
Message 98 of 102 (182 Views)

Re: CAD versus Hand drafting-the final conclusion

04-21-2003 04:57 AM in reply to: pipe0069
If I visit friends/relatives, I can find paper & straight edge...
Even if I don't, I can be that resourceful.
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Message 99 of 102 (182 Views)

Re: CAD versus Hand drafting-the final conclusion

04-21-2003 04:57 AM in reply to: pipe0069
So, you're NOT doing a hand drawing, you're doing a sketch.
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j.franklin
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Message 100 of 102 (182 Views)

Re: CAD versus Hand drafting-the final conclusion

04-21-2003 06:18 AM in reply to: pipe0069
I'm currently working with one consultant who still draws by hand. Yes, he is an older guy. We use him because his field is specialized (aquatic engineering, e.g. competition swimming pools) and he is the best in the area, regardless of his drafting methods. When I asked his receptionist if he had email, she just laughed... hahaha. His drawings aren't nearly the "works of art" like some hand drafters i've seen (actually they are rather sloppy), but they get the job done!
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