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styles with nested wipeouts

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Message 1 of 17
Anonymous
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styles with nested wipeouts

Hello. I have been talking to an autodesk technical support person. I have been trying to get my wipeouts to print properly when nested insite a style, i.e. alignments labels. I was told that this was never the intention of styles and this does not work. Here is my problem. I can get the wipeouts to print preview properly, but they will not print to the HP plotter, savin, or a plain jane HP ink jet printer. I have tried using viewports and viewports from polylines. I am asking if anyone reading this has been able to print the wipeouts and have them function. thanks for you help.
Brandon
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Message 2 of 17
Matt.Anderson
in reply to: Anonymous

I think your problem is not Autocad but HP.

We have had problems with wipeouts and our HP plotters.
Matthew Anderson, PE CFM
Product Manager
Autodesk (Innovyze)
Message 3 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I was haveing issues with wipeouts also... What I do is use a solid hatch
set to a color that had the screening set to 0.


wrote in message news:5067284@discussion.autodesk.com...
I think your problem is not Autocad but HP.

We have had problems with wipeouts and our HP plotters.
Message 4 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Eventhough they work when not nested in a style?
Message 5 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Now thats what I am talking about. Do you still use the block in the style? Just want to make sure I am thinking what you are saying. Thanks.
Message 6 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Will the drawing print correctly to a DWF?

I've had some drawings with large composite images that refuse to print directly to the printer. (a Xerox 6050) As a workaround I print to a DWF and then print the DWF. It's a pain. but it gets the job done.
Message 7 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Nope. Does not wipeout anything when printed to a dwf. If all else fails I will use the hatch idea. Thank you.
Brandon
Message 8 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

The hatch plan is the only way to mask out objects behind styles. When you
are creating your style, make sure you define the block first and then any
labels afterwards. Otherwise the labels will be generated first and the
hatch after, thus blocking out the label.

Matt

wrote in message news:5067265@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hello. I have been talking to an autodesk technical support person. I have
been trying to get my wipeouts to print properly when nested insite a style,
i.e. alignments labels. I was told that this was never the intention of
styles and this does not work. Here is my problem. I can get the wipeouts
to print preview properly, but they will not print to the HP plotter, savin,
or a plain jane HP ink jet printer. I have tried using viewports and
viewports from polylines. I am asking if anyone reading this has been able
to print the wipeouts and have them function. thanks for you help.
Brandon
Message 9 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Ok guys I'm new to Civil 3D, and we have always used the text mask for are notes in Land and I haven't used wipeout much. I see that text mask will not work with labels. I don't under stand how you are using this in your label styles. Are you creating a block from a wipeout and where does the hatching come in. Does it adjust to fix the length and width of the text? Can someone explain this to me.
Thanks Terry
Message 10 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

In the label style composer, under the layout tab there is a pull down with a A on it, click this and add a block. Have a block created where you put the hatch. The hatch should be sized to the text it is going to mask. It mos tlikely will not be to the correct "scale". Dont worry because there is a block height factor which will make it correct. After this put the text, lines, etc.
For the hatch you pick a color that has a 0 screening. The head CAD person probably set up your plot styles for the different plotters that you have. You need to go into the plot style and adjust the color screening to 0, this is what affects the lightness or darkness of a line, 0 being blank. Eventhough it is blank, it is on top and will cover up anything behind it acting as a wipeout. This is how I understand it to work, probably not 100% accurate but gets the point across. Hope this helps.
Brandon
Message 11 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Sounds like you figured it out....

Tom

wrote in message news:5068037@discussion.autodesk.com...
In the label style composer, under the layout tab there is a pull down with
a A on it, click this and add a block. Have a block created where you put
the hatch. The hatch should be sized to the text it is going to mask. It
mos tlikely will not be to the correct "scale". Dont worry because there
is a block height factor which will make it correct. After this put the
text, lines, etc.
For the hatch you pick a color that has a 0 screening. The head CAD person
probably set up your plot styles for the different plotters that you have.
You need to go into the plot style and adjust the color screening to 0, this
is what affects the lightness or darkness of a line, 0 being blank.
Eventhough it is blank, it is on top and will cover up anything behind it
acting as a wipeout. This is how I understand it to work, probably not 100%
accurate but gets the point across. Hope this helps.
Brandon
Message 12 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Ok I added the block but I do not see how to set the scale factor.
Message 13 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Has anyone got this to work? I still can't find a way to scale the block to match the text, and I can't get the text to be on top of the hatch, I added the bock to the label first then added the text but the text is still hidden under the hatch block. Any Ideas?
Thanks Terry
Message 14 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

For your first problem of scaling, you use the block height to fix the scaling issue. Everytime I have created the block first, following by the text, My text is always on top of the block.
Brandon
Message 15 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hi guys
I still can not get the text to be on top of the hatch, started a new style, added the block and then the text. Could one of you send me a blank drawing with one of these styles setup in it so I can see what i'm doing wrong.
Thanks
Terry
Message 16 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I am pretty new to civil 3d and this forum but I thought I'd share my 2 cents. Try switching on and off the plot paper space last button in the plot dialogue box. That seemed to work for me.

Message 17 of 17
mermerCAD
in reply to: Anonymous

Hi-

I use wipeouts in my label styles, and they work.  I create a block of the wipeout and add it to the style making sure it is under the text in the hierarchy and that it is scaled correctly by experimenting with the height. 

 

Here is a screenshot of the wipeout, and I've attached a plotted pdf.

 

Is this what you are trying to do?

 

Meredith

 

2015-07-16-WIPEOUTS IN LABEL STYLE.jpg

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