Win 98 vs NT

[Anonymous]

We are currently running A2Ki on win 98 SE, pier to pier network. We have
some problems like Acad crashing and locking up the computers when we close
drawings, and having to re-boot our systems before starting Acad when they
sit idle for long periods of time and so on. My question, is Acad more
stable on another operating system like Win 2000 or Win NT? Any info would
be much appreciated Im tired of losing work and restarting my machine 10
times a day.

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Denver Stanger
Engineer Technician/ CAD Manager
dstanger@bmaslo.com

[Anonymous]

Denver,

I have never run Autocad on anything other than NT 4.0 and W2K, and, judging
by the amount of threads on this subject, I never will. All my systems do
not crash, or lock up, except when grip-editing dimensions in R14.01.
Acad2000i doesn't seem to cause that problem.

However, there are things to consider before upgrading.
What are the current system specs, i.e. processor, how much memory, etc.?
Are your NIC and video cards on the HardwareCompatibilityList? Available
at: http://www.microsoft.com/hcl/default.asp
Can you get current drivers for all of your peripheral equipment?

My thought is that you should get rid of 98SE and install (not upgrade to)
W2K. NT 4.0 can get complicated. Make sure you have enough memory on the
system.

Good Luck,

Tim Storey

"Denver" wrote in message
news:317B001D996740D83DE79AB7A1E55D29@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We are currently running A2Ki on win 98 SE, pier to pier network. We have
> some problems like Acad crashing and locking up the computers when we
close
> drawings, and having to re-boot our systems before starting Acad when they
> sit idle for long periods of time and so on. My question, is Acad more
> stable on another operating system like Win 2000 or Win NT? Any info would
> be much appreciated Im tired of losing work and restarting my machine 10
> times a day.
>
> --
>
> Denver Stanger
> Engineer Technician/ CAD Manager
> dstanger@bmaslo.com
>

[Anonymous]

If your hardware supports it Win 2000. That and a UPS on each machine has
almost eliminated all crashes. (I never realized how dirt our power was
until I places a UPS on one machine)
I went from NT to 2000 and took the incorrect assumption that if it runs
under NT it will run under 2000.
"Denver" wrote in message
news:317B001D996740D83DE79AB7A1E55D29@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We are currently running A2Ki on win 98 SE, pier to pier network. We have
> some problems like Acad crashing and locking up the computers when we
close
> drawings, and having to re-boot our systems before starting Acad when they
> sit idle for long periods of time and so on. My question, is Acad more
> stable on another operating system like Win 2000 or Win NT? Any info would
> be much appreciated Im tired of losing work and restarting my machine 10
> times a day.
>
> --
>
> Denver Stanger
> Engineer Technician/ CAD Manager
> dstanger@bmaslo.com
>

[Anonymous]

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:50:02 -0800, "Alfred C. Jolley"
wrote:

>I went from NT to 2000 and took the incorrect assumption that if it runs
>under NT it will run under 2000.

I would wonder what application you have that ran under fine Windows NT that
doesn't run under Windows 2000, unless it's something very NT-specific...

Matt
mstachoni@home.com
mstachoni@beyerdesign.com

[Anonymous]

He was talking about hardware, Matt. I was also surprised to find the amount
of hardware that doesn't have Win 2000 support, like:

-really pricey 3 year old Targa 1000 video capture card, no drivers planned
-Umax 1200s scanner, 3 years old, no drivers planned
-Matrox just last week released a driver for it's dual head video cards that
supports multiple resolutions in 2000, but I don't know how well it works
-HP 4c scanner, 5 years old, no drivers planned
-the Calcomp Tabletworks driver is still a beta but I haven't had problems
with it yet

[Anonymous]

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:09:55 -0800, "Rick Moore" wrote:

>He was talking about hardware, Matt.

Sorry, didn't read the thread carefully enough.

>I was also surprised to find the amount
>of hardware that doesn't have Win 2000 support, like:

>-really pricey 3 year old Targa 1000 video capture card, no drivers planned

Have you tried the Windows NT driver?

>-Umax 1200s scanner, 3 years old, no drivers planned

I have this scanner at work also, and the WinNT drivers work just fine.

>-Matrox just last week released a driver for it's dual head video cards that
>supports multiple resolutions in 2000, but I don't know how well it works

Dual head support via Matrox cards has ALWAYS been poor - your desktop stretches
across both screens instead of having 2 independant desktops, as you would with
2 video cards (a much more usable configuration, IMO).

>-HP 4c scanner, 5 years old, no drivers planned

HP's driver support for almost all of their scanners has been abysmal. They
dropped the ball on their printers, too - in fact I had to uninstall all of HP's
Win2K drivers for 3 printers because they caused no end of grief in many
applications.

Matt
mstachoni@home.com
mstachoni@beyerdesign.com

[Anonymous]

So basically what I am getting from these post is that switching to another
OS probably won't help any and will just cause more headache. LOL

Thanks for the input guys.

--

Denver Stanger
Engineer Technician
dstanger@bmaslo.com

[Anonymous]

No what they are saying is it would help but if you plan to upgrade your current computers to 2000, you need to check
that they can handle it. If they're too old or slow, it's better to get a new machine. We're in a similar boat with 98
until things cool down enough with the work load to move the office and the OS which by the way means new pc's as well.

cj

"Denver" wrote in message news:9F092EBF8B64D56058A5FBDB198F833A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> So basically what I am getting from these post is that switching to another
> OS probably won't help any and will just cause more headache. LOL
>
> Thanks for the input guys.
>
> --
>
> Denver Stanger
> Engineer Technician
> dstanger@bmaslo.com
>

[Anonymous]

Matt, how did you get the Umax drivers to work? I've tried two different
versions of the Magiscan drivers (3.1 and 4.5) and both of them completely
hosed Win2000 (I couldn't boot it at all, even with the repair disk). Did
you use the Vistascan drivers? Someone in the Photoshop forum told me they
didn't work and since the 98 Vistascan drivers never worked for me in Win98
I didn't even try the NT drivers. Maybe you connected to a different SCSI
card than the one included with the scanner?
The Targa card drivers, BTW, would not install at all, giving an error
message saying NT 4.0 is required. Maybe there is a way to manually install
the drivers from the disc.
I agree with you about HP's NT printer drivers, they've always been bad...

[Anonymous]

Rick,

I used the VistaScan drivers, 3.1 for Windows NT. They work fine. The scanner
was attached to the original ISA 25-pin SCSI card.

It's a 22.9MB download, and you can grab'em here (watch for word wrap):

ftp://ftp.umax.com/scanners/vistascan/version3.1/scsi_interface/single_download/vs31scsi.exe

Matt
mstachoni@home.com
mstachoni@beyerdesign.com

[Anonymous]

Thanks, Matt. I had already tried that driver last night and it didn't work
but today I dug up an old Adaptec 2940 card and Win 2K found and recognized
the scanner. I got it to work in Photoshop using a twain driver from
Silverfast that's written for 2000 and supports this model...

[Anonymous]

I think it will help, just that it might take some more effort to set up. The
effort spent learning to set it up properly will be worthwhile but might not be
easy. The compatibility issues may not be that bad. The worse thing I
encountered was an HP CDRW that I had to order a special version of the
software for to be able to write with. If your devices are plug & play, it
should be effortless. Check some of the other threads about this here & in the
pn.take5 group to learn the ins & outs of installing properly (reformat ntfs,
load from bootable CD, etc.). I still crash under win2k but I have a special
talent for crashing computers and I crash much less, almost never need
to do a full re-boot. There is much much more control over everything with
win2k.

Denver wrote:

> So basically what I am getting from these post is that switching to another
> OS probably won't help any and will just cause more headache. LOL
>
> Thanks for the input guys.
>
> --
>
> Denver Stanger
> Engineer Technician
> dstanger@bmaslo.com

[Anonymous]

add to your list the Hp Photo smart printer. We had to give up 2 of those.
Also got caught with a Umax 2000s scammer that I have to keep an antique
P100 machine with a Win 98 install around to operate.

Mike

"Rick Moore" wrote in message
news:8A198B4BEDBE4D0390B69B360F2F4308@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> He was talking about hardware, Matt. I was also surprised to find the
amount
> of hardware that doesn't have Win 2000 support, like:
>
> -really pricey 3 year old Targa 1000 video capture card, no drivers
planned
> -Umax 1200s scanner, 3 years old, no drivers planned
> -Matrox just last week released a driver for it's dual head video cards
that
> supports multiple resolutions in 2000, but I don't know how well it works
> -HP 4c scanner, 5 years old, no drivers planned
> -the Calcomp Tabletworks driver is still a beta but I haven't had problems
> with it yet
>