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*Roderick, Joel
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Virus software with AutoCAD

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11-02-2000 07:49 AM
Does anyone know AutoDesk's official stand on running anti-virus software
with AutoCAD?
I know recommend against it, but I am looking for a white paper that
documents it.

Thanks for your help.

--
Joel Roderick
Project Designer
Water Technology, Inc.
www.watertechnologyinc.com
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 2 of 12 (261 Views)

Re: Virus software with AutoCAD

11-02-2000 08:07 AM in reply to: *Roderick, Joel
Joel,

There is no real whitepaper available from Autodesk on this. I can tell you
from experience some virus applications running in the background
(especially in Win9x/ME) can continually take more system resources until
the instant Win9x auto reboot problem occurs, cause AutoCAD to crash, or
causes system performance problems. This is the reason it is mentioned in
the readme to not run anti virus applications with AutoCAD.

Sincerely,

Shaan Hurley
Autodesk Beta Programs
http://betaprograms.autodesk.com

"Joel Roderick" wrote in message
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> Does anyone know AutoDesk's official stand on running anti-virus software
> with AutoCAD?
> I know recommend against it, but I am looking for a white paper that
> documents it.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> --
> Joel Roderick
> Project Designer
> Water Technology, Inc.
> www.watertechnologyinc.com
>
*Roderick, Joel
Message 3 of 12 (261 Views)

Re:

11-02-2000 08:11 AM in reply to: *Roderick, Joel
Which readme file are you referring to?

"Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
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> Joel,
>
> There is no real whitepaper available from Autodesk on this. I can tell
you
> from experience some virus applications running in the background
> (especially in Win9x/ME) can continually take more system resources until
> the instant Win9x auto reboot problem occurs, cause AutoCAD to crash, or
> causes system performance problems. This is the reason it is mentioned in
> the readme to not run anti virus applications with AutoCAD.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Shaan Hurley
> Autodesk Beta Programs
> http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
>
> "Joel Roderick" wrote in message
> news:6D3355AA70740A14B4EC1F9B342B2B27@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > Does anyone know AutoDesk's official stand on running anti-virus
software
> > with AutoCAD?
> > I know recommend against it, but I am looking for a white paper that
> > documents it.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > --
> > Joel Roderick
> > Project Designer
> > Water Technology, Inc.
> > www.watertechnologyinc.com
> >
>
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 4 of 12 (261 Views)

Re:

11-02-2000 08:22 AM in reply to: *Roderick, Joel
Sorry, the AutoCAD readme.

From the AutoCAD 2000i readme:

"Operating System
IMPORTANT: It is strongly advised that you disable all anti-virus software
before running AutoCAD under Windows 98. Serious problems that affect your
operating system may arise if you do not do this."

Sincerely,

Shaan Hurley
Autodesk Beta Programs
http://betaprograms.autodesk.com

"Joel Roderick" wrote in message
news:2E46AC6E51ADBABF40BA46C0C3BC6E5D@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> Which readme file are you referring to?
>
> "Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
> news:F1DF814A706E34BECCB4D079D44121D0@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > Joel,
> >
> > There is no real whitepaper available from Autodesk on this. I can tell
> you
> > from experience some virus applications running in the background
> > (especially in Win9x/ME) can continually take more system resources
until
> > the instant Win9x auto reboot problem occurs, cause AutoCAD to crash, or
> > causes system performance problems. This is the reason it is mentioned
in
> > the readme to not run anti virus applications with AutoCAD.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Shaan Hurley
> > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> >
> > "Joel Roderick" wrote in message
> > news:6D3355AA70740A14B4EC1F9B342B2B27@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > Does anyone know AutoDesk's official stand on running anti-virus
> software
> > > with AutoCAD?
> > > I know recommend against it, but I am looking for a white paper that
> > > documents it.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Joel Roderick
> > > Project Designer
> > > Water Technology, Inc.
> > > www.watertechnologyinc.com
> > >
> >
>
*Nunes, Dennis S.
Message 5 of 12 (261 Views)

Re:

11-02-2000 06:45 PM in reply to: *Roderick, Joel
Is this just for AutoCAD 2000i? What about R14?

"Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
news:51B16951B2BBA93BD0E9BD8F44DF3456@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> Sorry, the AutoCAD readme.
>
> From the AutoCAD 2000i readme:
>
> "Operating System
> IMPORTANT: It is strongly advised that you disable all anti-virus software
> before running AutoCAD under Windows 98. Serious problems that affect your
> operating system may arise if you do not do this."
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Shaan Hurley
> Autodesk Beta Programs
> http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
>
> "Joel Roderick" wrote in message
> news:2E46AC6E51ADBABF40BA46C0C3BC6E5D@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > Which readme file are you referring to?
> >
> > "Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
> > news:F1DF814A706E34BECCB4D079D44121D0@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > Joel,
> > >
> > > There is no real whitepaper available from Autodesk on this. I can
tell
> > you
> > > from experience some virus applications running in the background
> > > (especially in Win9x/ME) can continually take more system resources
> until
> > > the instant Win9x auto reboot problem occurs, cause AutoCAD to crash,
or
> > > causes system performance problems. This is the reason it is mentioned
> in
> > > the readme to not run anti virus applications with AutoCAD.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Shaan Hurley
> > > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> > >
> > > "Joel Roderick" wrote in
message
> > > news:6D3355AA70740A14B4EC1F9B342B2B27@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > > Does anyone know AutoDesk's official stand on running anti-virus
> > software
> > > > with AutoCAD?
> > > > I know recommend against it, but I am looking for a white paper that
> > > > documents it.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Joel Roderick
> > > > Project Designer
> > > > Water Technology, Inc.
> > > > www.watertechnologyinc.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 6 of 12 (261 Views)

Re:

11-02-2000 07:22 PM in reply to: *Roderick, Joel
Dennis,
Any AutoCAD should be effected by this in the Windows environment especially
under Win9x.

Cheers,
-Shaan

"Dennis S. Nunes" wrote in message
news:smileyvery-happy:7C7E62514D5345EC5014227158D069B@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> Is this just for AutoCAD 2000i? What about R14?
>
> "Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
> news:51B16951B2BBA93BD0E9BD8F44DF3456@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > Sorry, the AutoCAD readme.
> >
> > From the AutoCAD 2000i readme:
> >
> > "Operating System
> > IMPORTANT: It is strongly advised that you disable all anti-virus
software
> > before running AutoCAD under Windows 98. Serious problems that affect
your
> > operating system may arise if you do not do this."
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Shaan Hurley
> > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> >
> > "Joel Roderick" wrote in message
> > news:2E46AC6E51ADBABF40BA46C0C3BC6E5D@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > Which readme file are you referring to?
> > >
> > > "Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
> > > news:F1DF814A706E34BECCB4D079D44121D0@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > > Joel,
> > > >
> > > > There is no real whitepaper available from Autodesk on this. I can
> tell
> > > you
> > > > from experience some virus applications running in the background
> > > > (especially in Win9x/ME) can continually take more system resources
> > until
> > > > the instant Win9x auto reboot problem occurs, cause AutoCAD to
crash,
> or
> > > > causes system performance problems. This is the reason it is
mentioned
> > in
> > > > the readme to not run anti virus applications with AutoCAD.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Shaan Hurley
> > > > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > > > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> > > >
> > > > "Joel Roderick" wrote in
> message
> > > > news:6D3355AA70740A14B4EC1F9B342B2B27@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > > > Does anyone know AutoDesk's official stand on running anti-virus
> > > software
> > > > > with AutoCAD?
> > > > > I know recommend against it, but I am looking for a white paper
that
> > > > > documents it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Joel Roderick
> > > > > Project Designer
> > > > > Water Technology, Inc.
> > > > > www.watertechnologyinc.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
*Nunes, Dennis S.
Message 7 of 12 (261 Views)

Re:

11-03-2000 03:12 AM in reply to: *Roderick, Joel
Thanks for the information Shaan.

So what is a cad user to do, run "unprotected" if they are running Windows
98?

With Autodesk marketing internet collaboration with 2000i as a major
feature, run with no virus protection? I am going to have a difficult time
convincing any company that has been "bitten" by a virus, not to run virus
software.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Dennis

"Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
news:554F01C3710A999D473763258346073B@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> Dennis,
> Any AutoCAD should be effected by this in the Windows environment
especially
> under Win9x.
>
> Cheers,
> -Shaan
>
> "Dennis S. Nunes" wrote in message
> news:smileyvery-happy:7C7E62514D5345EC5014227158D069B@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > Is this just for AutoCAD 2000i? What about R14?
> >
> > "Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
> > news:51B16951B2BBA93BD0E9BD8F44DF3456@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > Sorry, the AutoCAD readme.
> > >
> > > From the AutoCAD 2000i readme:
> > >
> > > "Operating System
> > > IMPORTANT: It is strongly advised that you disable all anti-virus
> software
> > > before running AutoCAD under Windows 98. Serious problems that affect
> your
> > > operating system may arise if you do not do this."
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Shaan Hurley
> > > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> > >
> > > "Joel Roderick" wrote in
message
> > > news:2E46AC6E51ADBABF40BA46C0C3BC6E5D@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > > Which readme file are you referring to?
> > > >
> > > > "Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
> > > > news:F1DF814A706E34BECCB4D079D44121D0@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > > > Joel,
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no real whitepaper available from Autodesk on this. I can
> > tell
> > > > you
> > > > > from experience some virus applications running in the background
> > > > > (especially in Win9x/ME) can continually take more system
resources
> > > until
> > > > > the instant Win9x auto reboot problem occurs, cause AutoCAD to
> crash,
> > or
> > > > > causes system performance problems. This is the reason it is
> mentioned
> > > in
> > > > > the readme to not run anti virus applications with AutoCAD.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > Shaan Hurley
> > > > > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > > > > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> > > > >
> > > > > "Joel Roderick" wrote in
> > message
> > > > > news:6D3355AA70740A14B4EC1F9B342B2B27@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > > > > Does anyone know AutoDesk's official stand on running anti-virus
> > > > software
> > > > > > with AutoCAD?
> > > > > > I know recommend against it, but I am looking for a white paper
> that
> > > > > > documents it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Joel Roderick
> > > > > > Project Designer
> > > > > > Water Technology, Inc.
> > > > > > www.watertechnologyinc.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 8 of 12 (261 Views)

Re:

11-03-2000 08:11 AM in reply to: *Roderick, Joel
Dennis,

This problem can occur in Win9x with any Windows applications not just
AutoCAD. We felt it necessary to mention as it could result in you losing
data.

Sincerely,

Shaan Hurley
Autodesk Beta Programs
http://betaprograms.autodesk.com

"Dennis S. Nunes" wrote in message
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> Thanks for the information Shaan.
>
> So what is a cad user to do, run "unprotected" if they are running Windows
> 98?
>
> With Autodesk marketing internet collaboration with 2000i as a major
> feature, run with no virus protection? I am going to have a difficult time
> convincing any company that has been "bitten" by a virus, not to run virus
> software.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
> "Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
> news:554F01C3710A999D473763258346073B@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > Dennis,
> > Any AutoCAD should be effected by this in the Windows environment
> especially
> > under Win9x.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Shaan
> >
> > "Dennis S. Nunes" wrote in message
> > news:smileyvery-happy:7C7E62514D5345EC5014227158D069B@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > Is this just for AutoCAD 2000i? What about R14?
> > >
> > > "Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
> > > news:51B16951B2BBA93BD0E9BD8F44DF3456@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > > Sorry, the AutoCAD readme.
> > > >
> > > > From the AutoCAD 2000i readme:
> > > >
> > > > "Operating System
> > > > IMPORTANT: It is strongly advised that you disable all anti-virus
> > software
> > > > before running AutoCAD under Windows 98. Serious problems that
affect
> > your
> > > > operating system may arise if you do not do this."
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Shaan Hurley
> > > > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > > > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> > > >
> > > > "Joel Roderick" wrote in
> message
> > > > news:2E46AC6E51ADBABF40BA46C0C3BC6E5D@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > > > Which readme file are you referring to?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Shaan Hurley" wrote in message
> > > > > news:F1DF814A706E34BECCB4D079D44121D0@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > > > > Joel,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no real whitepaper available from Autodesk on this. I
can
> > > tell
> > > > > you
> > > > > > from experience some virus applications running in the
background
> > > > > > (especially in Win9x/ME) can continually take more system
> resources
> > > > until
> > > > > > the instant Win9x auto reboot problem occurs, cause AutoCAD to
> > crash,
> > > or
> > > > > > causes system performance problems. This is the reason it is
> > mentioned
> > > > in
> > > > > > the readme to not run anti virus applications with AutoCAD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shaan Hurley
> > > > > > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > > > > > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Joel Roderick" wrote in
> > > message
> > > > > > news:6D3355AA70740A14B4EC1F9B342B2B27@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > > > > > > Does anyone know AutoDesk's official stand on running
anti-virus
> > > > > software
> > > > > > > with AutoCAD?
> > > > > > > I know recommend against it, but I am looking for a white
paper
> > that
> > > > > > > documents it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Joel Roderick
> > > > > > > Project Designer
> > > > > > > Water Technology, Inc.
> > > > > > > www.watertechnologyinc.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
*Yoder, S.
Message 9 of 12 (261 Views)

Re:

11-03-2000 09:30 AM in reply to: *Roderick, Joel
"Dennis S. Nunes" wrote in message
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> So what is a cad user to do, run "unprotected" if they are running Windows
> 98?


Just one person's/company's experience here: We use/have used Computer
Associate's Inoculan/InoculateIT with AutoCAD r13 (one seat) and AutoCAD LT
(v1 thru 2000) with no problems on Win3.1, Win9x, NT 4.0, & Win2000. I have
worked at another company's site where they also run Inoculan and AutoCAD
r14 on Win9x with no problems.

I've seen Inoculan detect and stop viruses that got past McAffee's
(up-to-date sigs on both). We've been running Inoculan/InoculateIT for 7
years now and have never been completely infected. Only once did a virus
install (an email virus) on one machine, but it caught it and removed the
core components so the virus could not run. I consider that to be a partial
infection.

All of our machines are not the latest and greatest, so resources are
important. Our low-end CAD stations are Overdrive 400s (originally P75s, so
60mHz bus) with 88 megs of RAM running Win98 or NT 4 and using AutoCAD LT
2000. LT is just as much of a system hog as "full" AutoCAD.

Computer Associates has a free for personal use or 30-day full trial
corporate use at their web site.
http://www.cheyenne.com/products/inoculateit.htm

Enjoy,
Stef
--
mailto: yodersj@ipass.net || Drafter, Leather-worker
http://www.ipass.net/~yodersj/ || Dos, Win, LT
RFC 1855, section 3.1.1, item 10 at http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/
*Schillace, Eva
Message 10 of 12 (261 Views)

Re:

11-03-2000 11:24 AM in reply to: *Roderick, Joel
Another point of view: We use Acad 14 & 2000i on a mix of Win98 and Win2000
machines, with both McAfee and Norton AV running all the time, and have never
had any of the potential problems mentioned. YMMV.

-Eva

"S. Yoder" wrote:

> "Dennis S. Nunes" wrote in message
> news:1DDEBC1477A13BAB1507E90EE01F25F3@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > So what is a cad user to do, run "unprotected" if they are running Windows
> > 98?
>
>
> Just one person's/company's experience here: We use/have used Computer

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