Strong-arm tactics by Autodesk?

[WTerry]

I do not see a reason to upgrade past the 2006 seats we have in our office, though the IT nazis have madanted a change to Vista, and I have a question. Is it just me or does it seem that Autodesk is using the release of Vista to strong-arm everyone into getting an upgrade or joining the subscription program?

[Anonymous]

C O Jones said the following On 4/16/2007 2:04 AM:
> They have released a SP for AutoCAD 2007 so that it works with Vista. So I guess your ranting is for nothing.

The OP said he was running 2006, not 2007.

There is no patch for running 2006 on Vista.

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R.K. McSwain
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[Anonymous]

So when does the cloning program start so the rest of us can get in on this
bounty?

wrote in message news:5552822@discussion.autodesk.com...
I don't know where you guys work or where you have been, but in my world we
work our butt off to support the end users and try to keep up with every
friggin software and hardware advance out there.

Crap I wish I had some control and power.

[Anonymous]

AutoCAD 2008 still runs on XP home & Pro. Also will run on Win 2000. So if
your IT left your OS alone. You could run any version you wanted. Autodesk
it patching 2007 for Vista.

Out IT probably won't go near Vista for another year. By then we will be on
2008.

For me. The ability to set properties by layout plus annotation scale is
more than enough to justify the upgrade.

You might want to ask your IT how much of the budget is being devoted to
training on the new release.

Allen

wrote in message news:5552020@discussion.autodesk.com...
I do not see a reason to upgrade past the 2006 seats we have in our office,
though the IT nazis have madanted a change to Vista, and I have a question.
Is it just me or does it seem that Autodesk is using the release of Vista to
strong-arm everyone into getting an upgrade or joining the subscription
program?

[steve216586]

This is what I say! Change all the OS in everyones computer but mine, baby. I'll stick to XP, NT, whatever, as long as it works with the version of ACAD I have. If I'm a security threat because I'm not using the Vista system then give me a system off the network - Computer A. I'll copy to cd and send them through email this way, from Computer B (with Vista).
Now that creates a purchasing problem for IT. They have to justify why all in the CAD dept need 2 systems, or brunt the cost of ACAD 08 to go with Vista.
Not your problem, not ACAD problem. IT problem!

[Anonymous]

You're misinformed: R2008 is till WinXP supported, as it is in
Win2000. Give me a break, you're mad at your IT folks, deal with it at
your place with your people LOL
And so far, subscription is still a choice 2 years after your version
was relevant.

Get your facts right.

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Dean Saadallah
Add-on products for LT
http://www.pendean.com/lt
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[flex411]

Exactly, Autodesk isnt strong arming anyone. I can name many apps that worked in xp and not vista, they will make a new version and you get that one! or some people arnt even doing that, my logitech mouse has no plans to be working correctly in vista, without a slight modification beyond most people. I havn;t even heard of anyone introducing a patch to make there software that worked in xp to now work in vista?

Who's the richest man in the world? How strong is that arm? the finger is pointed at Autodesk and it should be.

[WTerry]

if you read the message a bit more carefully you will notice that i was speaking of 2006 and vista. but its ok if you cont be bothered to pay attention. i dont mind at all.

[flex411]

I did read the post, and that reply was worded according? Unless you mean that Autodesk expects you to upgrade to 2008, well I guess they do but whats stopping you from not? Is it the support issue? Just becasue Autodesk doesnt support somthing doesnt mean it wont work for years to come. We gerry rigged softdesk 8 and r14 to work untill XP sp2 and beyond. Autodesk didn't support it but we didn't need it, how many people call support anyways?

[Anonymous]

Think about this, if Autodesk doubled the price of 2008, what would we do to avoid it?
Its all a balance of money, and I think Adesk has enough of a monopoly to charge double!
happy newsgrouping....

WTerry <>
|>I do not see a reason to upgrade past the 2006 seats we have in our office, though the IT nazis have madanted a change to Vista, and I have a question. Is it just me or does it seem that Autodesk is using the release of Vista to strong-arm everyone into getting an upgrade or joining the subscription program?
James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - at - hunsaker - dotcom

[WTerry]

if they have that much of a monlopy would we be better served by contacting those monkeys that went after microsoft? probably not, tho to be honest about it adesk is pretty much holding the majority of thier clients hostage to the almighty subscritpioin program. personally i think i am going to take another tack and work on getting our office changed over to microstation. it will do what we need it to do without having to deal with a financial parasite that forces us to buy software we dont need. true its not as user friendly as autocad, but you gotta take the bad with the good......

[Anonymous]

Wait til you get a load of what Bentley licenses cost and how well their support works.
You will be back.

[Anonymous]

Ha Ha. Ha Ha Ha! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!

We had a woman with over 2 years experience start work about 18 months ago.
All she could do while leering AutoCAD was rave about how much easier
everything was in Acad.

wrote in message news:5563058@discussion.autodesk.com...
if they have that much of a monlopy would we be better served by contacting
those monkeys that went after microsoft? probably not, tho to be honest
about it adesk is pretty much holding the majority of thier clients hostage
to the almighty subscritpioin program. personally i think i am going to take
another tack and work on getting our office changed over to microstation. it
will do what we need it to do without having to deal with a financial
parasite that forces us to buy software we dont need. true its not as user
friendly as autocad, but you gotta take the bad with the good......