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standardized symbols for civil

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Anonymous
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standardized symbols for civil

does anyone know where I can find a national standard of civil symbols (If
one exists). We are just curious how ours compares to others.

MKH
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Message 21 of 26
kbernhard
in reply to: Anonymous

If i am not mistaken AutoCAD 2007 and 2006 should have a feature that will make all the text a constant size no matter what scale you have the drawing at. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Another simple solution is to have double the blocks, and then double the layers... for example... have a layer for water meters at 40 scale and then another for water meters at 20 scale (this is what our company is doing for the time being).
Message 22 of 26
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Since you've brought up 2K6 and 2K7, maybe DynBlks could acquire the
necessary Scale Factors to make this somewhat easier?

Easier as in these DynBlks might find their way into the "Plot" dwgs to
satisfy the need for differing Scales throughout the Plot Set?

Sometimes "new" tools show us a need to make changes to our operations - for
a benefit across the board.

Almost a pun intended - "the board." AKA drafting board - in the olde days.
:-)

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and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
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wrote in message news:5137142@discussion.autodesk.com...
If i am not mistaken AutoCAD 2007 and 2006 should have a feature that will
make all the text a constant size no matter what scale you have the drawing
at. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Another simple solution is to have double the blocks, and then double the
layers... for example... have a layer for water meters at 40 scale and then
another for water meters at 20 scale (this is what our company is doing for
the time being).
Message 23 of 26
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

As I've mentioned in a thread elsewhere, some of the townships around here
have a contract with one of our *competitors* to review documents.

The conflict of interest is HUGE, yet we still manage to get things approved
occasionally. Usually takes several rounds until things look the way the
reviewers want. There is no arguing with a competitor that is reviewing
your work. And then when you finally get used to how to prepare documents
for that township, they'll contract with a different competitor that
underbid the last one. As you might imagine, lawyers specializing in zoning
and code enforcement/interpretation do very well around here.

On the plus-side, good engineers/designers/drafters start to get a
reputation around here as more and more firms see your work. Job security.
;-)



"Don Reichle" wrote in message
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They all have their own standard symbols, and when you have a project within
their sphere of influence they each expect that your firm will use their
symbols.
Message 24 of 26
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

How this for a scenario I've just seen. Consultant X consults for
municipality A. Consultant Y consults for municipality B. Consultant X is
just about to get final approval on a project in municipality B. Just one
more approval and it's done. Consultant Y submits a project to municipality
A. Being the first round there is a long list of comments from Consultant X.

Suddenly Consultant X receives a huge list of revisions for his project in
municipality B. What is going on here?

Municipalities believe they SAVE money by using consultants to do the work
that used to be done by a Town or City or County Engineer. They don't have
an Engineer on the payroll so they are "Saving Money". But if you look at
the total spent on consulting serviced. One you factor in Reviews, Meetings,
Consultations on Municipal projects, field inspection fees. You'll probably
find they could have quite a decent Engineering department. And those
Engineers could always work for the municipality.

Another good one. Company Alpha is the Engineering Consultant for the Town
of Bumstead. Company Alpha also has a big private project in the Town of
Bumstead. You ask if this isn't a conflict of interests. Company Alpha says
there is no conflict of interest because Mr. Joe Engineer P.E. is the
engineer in charge of that project and he NEVER does any of the municipal
work. And the Town backs them up.

And another!! Mr. T. Cons is introduced as the Town Engineer at all the Town
of Bumstead planning board meetings. He is rude and always has very
derogatory thing to say about many the engineers presentations and plans at
the meetings. One engineer takes exception to his conduct and does some
research. He finds that Mr. T. Cons. is NOT a licensed Engineer in ANY
state. He is an partner in the consulting firm but holds no professional
license. A complaint is made to the state on the ground that he is
practicing engineering without a license. His defense it that he is not
practicing engineering at all. He is only expressing the view of his company
at these meetings. Although he was obviously making engineering decisions at
the meetings and that it would have been illegal for anyone not licensed to
represent the applicant at these meeting. The state finds that there is no
evidence that this person was practicing engineering without a license.

Have fun
Allen
"doug k" wrote in message
news:5137308@discussion.autodesk.com...
As I've mentioned in a thread elsewhere, some of the townships around here
have a contract with one of our *competitors* to review documents.

The conflict of interest is HUGE, yet we still manage to get things approved
occasionally. Usually takes several rounds until things look the way the
reviewers want. There is no arguing with a competitor that is reviewing
your work. And then when you finally get used to how to prepare documents
for that township, they'll contract with a different competitor that
underbid the last one. As you might imagine, lawyers specializing in zoning
and code enforcement/interpretation do very well around here.

On the plus-side, good engineers/designers/drafters start to get a
reputation around here as more and more firms see your work. Job security.
;-)



"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:5136841@discussion.autodesk.com...

They all have their own standard symbols, and when you have a project within
their sphere of influence they each expect that your firm will use their
symbols.
Message 25 of 26
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

This is all very familiar sounding........

I suppose NY is even closer to PA than you might think. 😉

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Doug K
LDT 2005, XP Pro 2002 sp2, P4 2.40GHz, 1 GB RAM, Dual 19" Dell LCD, NVIDIA
GeForce FX 5700LE, Left Handed Kensington Trackball, Happily Married
w/Children



"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
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How this for a scenario I've just seen.
Message 26 of 26
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

And here I thought he was descibing a Left Coast scenario.

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
----------------------------------------------------------
LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.2GHz
XPPro 32bit SP2
1GB RAM
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB
WD 36GB Raptor



"doug k" wrote in message
news:5137830@discussion.autodesk.com...
This is all very familiar sounding........

I suppose NY is even closer to PA than you might think. 😉

--
Doug K
LDT 2005, XP Pro 2002 sp2, P4 2.40GHz, 1 GB RAM, Dual 19" Dell LCD, NVIDIA
GeForce FX 5700LE, Left Handed Kensington Trackball, Happily Married
w/Children



"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5137810@discussion.autodesk.com...
How this for a scenario I've just seen.

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