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jwilkerson
Posts: 235
Registered: ‎12-11-2003
Message 1 of 6 (97 Views)

Should I install 2008 Project yet

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05-18-2007 11:31 AM
My company mainly used Land Desktop, but we are going to start to train in Civil 3D. We are currently using the 2006 products but need to upgrade. Is the Land Desktop 2008 stable enough for me to upgrade to the 2008 products or should I install the 2007 products and upgrade to 2008 next year?
*Allen Jessup
Message 2 of 6 (97 Views)

Re: Should I install 2008 Project yet

05-18-2007 12:09 PM in reply to: jwilkerson
I've only had it installed for a little while. But between what I've seen
and have read on the newsgroups. 2008 looks stable enough to start using
now. Luckily it seems to follow the odd even rule.

Allen

wrote in message news:5590955@discussion.autodesk.com...
My company mainly used Land Desktop, but we are going to start to train in
Civil 3D. We are currently using the 2006 products but need to upgrade. Is
the Land Desktop 2008 stable enough for me to upgrade to the 2008 products
or should I install the 2007 products and upgrade to 2008 next year?
*Don Reichle
Message 3 of 6 (97 Views)

Re: Should I install 2008 Project yet

05-19-2007 02:45 PM in reply to: jwilkerson
Well Allen, I'm wondering if you have you been reading Heidi's posts
regarding the 2K8 release of both the LDT and CD Companions?

The Terrain Model Surface names have been truncated to around 10 characters.
She was only informed of this after her firm's reseller had checked in with
the Deskers.

So even when you attempt to use the Copy in TME, it's going to produce too
long a name also, since it adds "Copy of " to the olde Surface name?

I just did a Search of the Knowledge Base using "land desktop 2008 surface
name" - w/o quotes of course, and received the olde No results were found
for:

I just did another Knowledge Base Search for "land desktop surface name" -
w/o quotes of course, and received an inkling of how this naming convention
may have been derived. It mentions in the 1st result "(Surface 1 by
default)", so I'm thinking that we might now need to develop a "score card".
So that we can tell the players by their numbers?

I would much prefer to go back to the way it was prior to 2K8's arrival. I'm
not out to see just how long I can make a Surface name, but only 10
characters? I can make EG, FG and Excav do for most of my Surfaces, but when
you get into making revisions, for whatever reason, my preference is to then
add a date in YYYYMMDD format. So I can tell when things got changed.

And from what she's been writing about with the Civil Design Companion
Profiles menu, that part of the accouterments of LDT seems like they'll be
waiting on the Service Pack to arrive?

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." :-o
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop :-) !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5591040@discussion.autodesk.com...
I've only had it installed for a little while. But between what I've seen
and have read on the newsgroups. 2008 looks stable enough to start using
now. Luckily it seems to follow the odd even rule.

Allen

wrote in message news:5590955@discussion.autodesk.com...
My company mainly used Land Desktop, but we are going to start to train in
Civil 3D. We are currently using the 2006 products but need to upgrade. Is
the Land Desktop 2008 stable enough for me to upgrade to the 2008 products
or should I install the 2007 products and upgrade to 2008 next year?
*Allen Jessup
Message 4 of 6 (97 Views)

Re: Should I install 2008 Project yet

05-21-2007 04:42 AM in reply to: jwilkerson
Glad you posted Don. I hadn't run in to that snag yet. But mostly this seems
to be a fairly stable release. At least compared to some others. SP1 will
address some of the issues and create others I sure.

Allen

"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:5591668@discussion.autodesk.com...
Well Allen, I'm wondering if you have you been reading Heidi's posts
regarding the 2K8 release of both the LDT and CD Companions?

The Terrain Model Surface names have been truncated to around 10 characters.
She was only informed of this after her firm's reseller had checked in with
the Deskers.

So even when you attempt to use the Copy in TME, it's going to produce too
long a name also, since it adds "Copy of " to the olde Surface name?

I just did a Search of the Knowledge Base using "land desktop 2008 surface
name" - w/o quotes of course, and received the olde No results were found
for:

I just did another Knowledge Base Search for "land desktop surface name" -
w/o quotes of course, and received an inkling of how this naming convention
may have been derived. It mentions in the 1st result "(Surface 1 by
default)", so I'm thinking that we might now need to develop a "score card".
So that we can tell the players by their numbers?

I would much prefer to go back to the way it was prior to 2K8's arrival. I'm
not out to see just how long I can make a Surface name, but only 10
characters? I can make EG, FG and Excav do for most of my Surfaces, but when
you get into making revisions, for whatever reason, my preference is to then
add a date in YYYYMMDD format. So I can tell when things got changed.

And from what she's been writing about with the Civil Design Companion
Profiles menu, that part of the accouterments of LDT seems like they'll be
waiting on the Service Pack to arrive?

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." :-o
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop :-) !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5591040@discussion.autodesk.com...
I've only had it installed for a little while. But between what I've seen
and have read on the newsgroups. 2008 looks stable enough to start using
now. Luckily it seems to follow the odd even rule.

Allen

wrote in message news:5590955@discussion.autodesk.com...
My company mainly used Land Desktop, but we are going to start to train in
Civil 3D. We are currently using the 2006 products but need to upgrade. Is
the Land Desktop 2008 stable enough for me to upgrade to the 2008 products
or should I install the 2007 products and upgrade to 2008 next year?
*John Mayo
Message 5 of 6 (97 Views)

Re: Should I install 2008 Project yet

05-22-2007 12:33 PM in reply to: jwilkerson
IMO, 2008 is better with all of it's issues than 06 or 07 ever was.

We have had no major issues with LDT or C3D to date.

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5592128@discussion.autodesk.com...
Glad you posted Don. I hadn't run in to that snag yet. But mostly this seems
to be a fairly stable release. At least compared to some others. SP1 will
address some of the issues and create others I sure.

Allen

"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:5591668@discussion.autodesk.com...
Well Allen, I'm wondering if you have you been reading Heidi's posts
regarding the 2K8 release of both the LDT and CD Companions?

The Terrain Model Surface names have been truncated to around 10 characters.
She was only informed of this after her firm's reseller had checked in with
the Deskers.

So even when you attempt to use the Copy in TME, it's going to produce too
long a name also, since it adds "Copy of " to the olde Surface name?

I just did a Search of the Knowledge Base using "land desktop 2008 surface
name" - w/o quotes of course, and received the olde No results were found
for:

I just did another Knowledge Base Search for "land desktop surface name" -
w/o quotes of course, and received an inkling of how this naming convention
may have been derived. It mentions in the 1st result "(Surface 1 by
default)", so I'm thinking that we might now need to develop a "score card".
So that we can tell the players by their numbers?

I would much prefer to go back to the way it was prior to 2K8's arrival. I'm
not out to see just how long I can make a Surface name, but only 10
characters? I can make EG, FG and Excav do for most of my Surfaces, but when
you get into making revisions, for whatever reason, my preference is to then
add a date in YYYYMMDD format. So I can tell when things got changed.

And from what she's been writing about with the Civil Design Companion
Profiles menu, that part of the accouterments of LDT seems like they'll be
waiting on the Service Pack to arrive?

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." :-o
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop :-) !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5591040@discussion.autodesk.com...
I've only had it installed for a little while. But between what I've seen
and have read on the newsgroups. 2008 looks stable enough to start using
now. Luckily it seems to follow the odd even rule.

Allen

wrote in message news:5590955@discussion.autodesk.com...
My company mainly used Land Desktop, but we are going to start to train in
Civil 3D. We are currently using the 2006 products but need to upgrade. Is
the Land Desktop 2008 stable enough for me to upgrade to the 2008 products
or should I install the 2007 products and upgrade to 2008 next year?
Distinguished Contributor
racerpix2002
Posts: 265
Registered: ‎03-16-2007
Message 6 of 6 (97 Views)

Re: Should I install 2008 Project yet

05-23-2007 06:46 AM in reply to: jwilkerson
Hi Don -
I checked out the surface names in TME in my 2008 copy and there were no issues with naming/# of characters. Everything came in from older projects just fine.
~Brenda
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