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Profits up for AutoDesk

this should bring out the usual suspects....
Article from Cadalyst Magazine.

Marc


CAD Giants Make it Big in 2005, Part 3
Autodesk revenue tops $1.5 billion -- 23% above past year

Mar 22, 2006
By: Sara Ferris
Cadalyst


Over the past month we've been reviewing the year-end earnings reports of
CAD heavyweights. Previously, we reported on the revenues of UGS (US$1.15
billion for 2005) and revenues of Dassault Systemes (approximately US$1.12
billion). Today, we'll look at the details of Autodesk's recent earnings
report.
At the end of February, Autodesk reported fiscal year 2006 revenue of
$1.523 billion, a 23% increase over the previous year. GAAP net income for
2006 was $329 million, up 48% from $222 million in 2005. For the fourth
quarter of 2006, which ended January 31, net revenues were $417 million,
and net income was $83 million.

Autodesk attributes the revenue increases to strong growth in new seats and
subscriptions, as well as increasing interest in its vertical and 3D
products. Fourth-quarter revenues from new commercial seats increased 16%
over the fourth quarter of the prior year. Subscription revenues, also
called maintenance, increased 53% over the fourth quarter of last year and
exceeded upgrade revenue for the first time for 2006. Combined revenues
from subscription and upgrades represent about one-third of total Autodesk
revenue, the company reports.

"Autodesk had an excellent finish to another outstanding year," says Carol
Bartz, Autodesk chair and CEO. "Customer demand for our products continues
to be very strong. Through solid execution, we significantly increased
revenues and profitability for the third year in a row."

The company predicts that net revenue will increase by 18%-20% in fiscal
year 2007. Its acquisitions of Alias and Constructware will account for
about 6% of that growth, it reports. Once Autodesk releases its 2007
upgrades, it will "begin the retirement of the AutoCAD 2004-based family of
products," Bartz says. In addition, Autodesk is expected to raise the
suggested retail price of its products when the 2007 upgrades launch on
March 23, though the company has not yet confirmed this. Reseller Microsol
Resources notes on its Web site that a stand-alone license of AutoCAD will
go up by $250, and the network license will increase by $495.

Though Autodesk's 2D business remains robust, Bartz notes that 3D is "now
the single biggest driver of new seats." However, 3D penetration of
Autodesk's installed base remains very low, presenting a "tremendous growth
opportunity," according to Bartz. The AutoCAD 2007 release is a
"tantalizer," she says, designed to get users excited and comfortable with
3D.

Regarding future acquisitions, incoming CEO Carl Bass said, "Expect to see
a continuation of the acquisition strategy in place. We continue to like
the small, tuck-in acquisitions that are complementary to our business. I
think you'll continue to see us do relatively small and adjacent -- ones
that fit our business model, that complement what we have. You won't see
us, generally speaking, with far-reaching acquisitions."

Autodesk's Manufacturing Solutions Division posted $74 million revenue in
the fourth quarter, a 23% increase over the previous year. Total
manufacturing revenue for 2006 was $257 million. Bartz reports strong
growth for Autodesk's 2D products, AutoCAD Mechanical and AutoCAD
Electrical, and notes that revenue from Inventor increased by 45% in 2006.
A sea change is taking place in the market, she says: "Customers are
increasingly choosing high-value mainstream solutions."

The Building Solutions Division also recorded an "outstanding" quarter,
according to Bartz: Revenue was $52 million for the fourth quarter and $178
million for the full year 2006. The company shipped 13,700 seats of Revit
in the fourth quarter.

The Infrastructure Solutions Division brought in $53 million in fourth-
quarter revenue and $178 million for the year. Civil 3D continues to
surpass Autodesk expectations, Bartz says.
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Message 21 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Most Bosses are. They're sort of like Parents that way.


--
James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
Civil 3D 2006 SP2
XP Tablet, SP2, 2GHz, 1.5G
www.eng-eff.com
www.civil3d.com
Message 22 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You are being such a good girl I will let you dream about me tonight....:)

Jack


"PJ" wrote in message
news:5130864@discussion.autodesk.com...
I agree, What is this? Some kind of billboard for Adesk or something?

--
Princess Jamie,

Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.
- Anais Nin

"Turbo" wrote in message
news:5130862@discussion.autodesk.com...
who do you think you are, having a positive attitude like that? I think
that positive comments regarding Autodesk are completely inappropriate, and
should be banned from this website.....

Jack Talsky
Message 23 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Miguel wrote:

> just for the record....
>
> Its not autodesks fault if a return on investment can not be made.

LOL, I only posted this to get the usual whiners who like to complain about
Autodesk.
I'm certainly glad they made money...my stock in them will prolly go up


--
Marc
Message 24 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Jack,

Well said !!!!

Maximo
Message 25 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I would have to modify your formula to include the time I lost trying to get
the "upgrade" up and running with all our necessary customization.

The last one (2006) really took a bite. I'm not sure I could have caught up
before the next release came out (so I took my losses and shelved it).

I'm now officially on the every-other-upgrade installation system.

"Rodney McManamy - CADzation" wrote in message
news:5130851@discussion.autodesk.com...
Even if you are a small shop and don't share your license you're talking
$500 for an employee that costs the company $50,000 or better. Do the math
and you are looking at only having to find a half hour a week to justify the
cost.
Message 26 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Thanks Miguel,

I've been with Autodesk for a bit more than four years and can honestly say
we care about making great products. Could we do better? You bet, and we're
trying very hard to improve the tools we make for you. You will soon see the
2007 product line & I can truly say the improvements come directly from
customer requests. We can't do everything we want to do in a one year cycle
and we sometimes make mistakes but we keep working hard to make world class
software. Since Autodesk is financially successful, we will be able to
continue to improve our products and generate new solutions for our
customers.

As others have said, it's important to understand the tools you have so you
can gain productivity and return on investment. If I returned to practicing
architecture today, I would happily use our products, such as ADT to be
efficient and do my best work.

Autodesk wants to hear your ideas for improvement, your problems with the
software and your positive comments where merited. You can do this by
posting to the wishes or any newsgroup or becoming a beta tester.

Cheers,
Dennis
Dennis McNeal, AIA
Autodesk BSD

--
Dennis McNeal, AIA - Autodesk BSD
"Miguel" wrote in message news:5130672@discussion.autodesk.com...
just for the record....

Its not autodesks fault if a return on investment can not be made.

I have lived with the "autodesk steals my money..." or "autodesk forces
me..." crying for years...yet these same whiners dont know how to do
anything with autocad (even if they have a vert.. ADT for example) other
than replicate hand drafting...same methods... same techniques...akin to
using a word processor as if it was a typewriter and nothing else.
Employers who freek out on the cost...and constantly complain about massive
overhead and blame the software...guess what... you are buying chainsaws and
trying to cut down trees without turning them on....or worse..buying the
chainsaw...putting it in the shed and continuing to use the axe. oh and
heaven forbid us lowly computer nerds try to help.. .. you will label us
as condescending know it alls ..right? Give us the "we're not a computer
company" speech again...and continue to underpay us.

(setq vent nil)

M
Message 27 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Thanks Rodney,

My sentiments exactly.

Dave Alexander

"Rodney McManamy - CADzation" wrote in message
news:5130851@discussion.autodesk.com...
For anyone who honestly thinks that they don't get their money's worth out
of subscription then I want what you are smoking. It must be some good
stuff.

Could there be more features in releases, sure there could. But most users
aren't going to use them anyways. They will stick with the commands they
know.

Even if you are a small shop and don't share your license you're talking
$500 for an employee that costs the company $50,000 or better. Do the math
and you are looking at only having to find a half hour a week to justify the
cost. It's the cost of doing business and probably less than it costs the
company to administer your benefits package or clean the bathroom. Now the
average employee wastes far more money than that surfing the net and reading
and sending email jokes.

Get real. We waste more money on our cell phones so we have the convience
to talk when we want from where we want but then we complain about paying
for something we use for hours every day.

The fact of the matter is no matter how much money Autodesk is making they
are also making your company a profit otherwise you wouldn't be using the
software and we would be drawing by hand. It's always fun to complain about
the guys on the top but you forget that they are who helped get the little
guys to where they are. They created the market and everyone else has also
reaped the rewards. Would baseball really be the same without the Yankee's
to hate? I doubt it.

We all hate Microsoft but honestly where would computers be without them
today? Like it or not they made decent products that worked with a wide
variety of hardware which brought the cost down to where the average Joe
could afford it.

Now if Autodesk is loosing money and providing us with software that doesn't
make our lives easier then we have a time to complain!

--
Rodney McManamy
President
CADzation
-------------------------
rmcmanamy@cadzation.com
-------------------------
518 South Route 31 Suite 200
McHenry, IL 60050
http://www.cadzation.com
Providing Industrial Strength
PDF & DWF Solutions to the
Global CAD Marketplace.

"PJ" wrote in message
news:5130717@discussion.autodesk.com...
yeah, but autodesk steals my money...



--
Princess Jamie,

Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.
- Anais Nin

"Miguel" wrote in message news:5130672@discussion.autodesk.com...
just for the record....

Its not autodesks fault if a return on investment can not be made.

I have lived with the "autodesk steals my money..." or "autodesk forces
me..." crying for years...yet these same whiners dont know how to do
anything with autocad (even if they have a vert.. ADT for example) other
than replicate hand drafting...same methods... same techniques...akin to
using a word processor as if it was a typewriter and nothing else.
Employers who freek out on the cost...and constantly complain about massive
overhead and blame the software...guess what... you are buying chainsaws and
trying to cut down trees without turning them on....or worse..buying the
chainsaw...putting it in the shed and continuing to use the axe. oh and
heaven forbid us lowly computer nerds try to help.. .. you will label us
as condescending know it alls ..right? Give us the "we're not a computer
company" speech again...and continue to underpay us.

(setq vent nil)

M
Message 28 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

"Terry W. Dotson" wrote in message
news:5130340@discussion.autodesk.com...
Lets not just talk about Autodesk prices. If the costs of doing
business increases for your boss, there is less money left to give you.
So logically you should want to keep costs down for the boss. Unless
of course the boss is the kind that takes all the profit and puts it in
his own pocket.


My department has a $100,000,000 dollar annual budget, we're not too worried
about a $1,000 dollar increase in our subs per year. And no the boss
doesn't put profits in his pocket but the shareholders do.

:-)
Message 29 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

you are very welcome...

its so funny to watch the haters whine, cry, and bloviate about software.
Totaly clueless and completely unable to produce anything with a computer
without somebody elses help.

Unfortunatley these are usually also the people that write the
checks....compare the salarys of computer and cad gurus in firms where the
employers are "savvy"....or are "with it" they get it....versus the
employers that hate it...and will never get it.

interesting.....


M
Message 30 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

if it was the one mentioned in the documentary 'supersize me', I believe she
lost.

wrote in message news:5130799@discussion.autodesk.com...
She win the suit?

John P.
Message 31 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dennis, can you explain why file names and other variables still carry the
sdsk format in LDT? What justifies the massive price increase over the past
10 years with a product like LDT that has changed very little since it was
Softdesk 8? Why are the same bugs in the software that were there 10 years
ago? Why not try harder to fix the problems with the software before adding
new features and skip a year between releases?

; "AIA - Autodesk BSD"
wrote in message news:5131042@discussion.autodesk.com...
Thanks Miguel,

I've been with Autodesk for a bit more than four years and can honestly say
we care about making great products. Could we do better? You bet, and we're
trying very hard to improve the tools we make for you. You will soon see the
2007 product line & I can truly say the improvements come directly from
customer requests. We can't do everything we want to do in a one year cycle
and we sometimes make mistakes but we keep working hard to make world class
software. Since Autodesk is financially successful, we will be able to
continue to improve our products and generate new solutions for our
customers.

As others have said, it's important to understand the tools you have so you
can gain productivity and return on investment. If I returned to practicing
architecture today, I would happily use our products, such as ADT to be
efficient and do my best work.

Autodesk wants to hear your ideas for improvement, your problems with the
software and your positive comments where merited. You can do this by
posting to the wishes or any newsgroup or becoming a beta tester.

Cheers,
Dennis
Dennis McNeal, AIA
Autodesk BSD

--
Dennis McNeal, AIA - Autodesk BSD
"Miguel" wrote in message news:5130672@discussion.autodesk.com...
just for the record....

Its not autodesks fault if a return on investment can not be made.

I have lived with the "autodesk steals my money..." or "autodesk forces
me..." crying for years...yet these same whiners dont know how to do
anything with autocad (even if they have a vert.. ADT for example) other
than replicate hand drafting...same methods... same techniques...akin to
using a word processor as if it was a typewriter and nothing else.
Employers who freek out on the cost...and constantly complain about massive
overhead and blame the software...guess what... you are buying chainsaws and
trying to cut down trees without turning them on....or worse..buying the
chainsaw...putting it in the shed and continuing to use the axe. oh and
heaven forbid us lowly computer nerds try to help.. .. you will label us
as condescending know it alls ..right? Give us the "we're not a computer
company" speech again...and continue to underpay us.

(setq vent nil)

M
Message 32 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Trust me, I have all kinds of bad attitudes towards them also. If they
wanted to do the PDF out correctly in AutoCAD 2007 we could have easily done
it for them. Instead they now give the customes a PDF that is 3.0 MB for
the Wilhome.dwg sample, Adobe makes one that is 1.7 MB. and we have been
making it at 180 kb for years now.

But keep in mind that profits mean that they can continue to develope
software. No profits means people get laid off and the product stalls.

--
Rodney McManamy
President
CADzation
-------------------------
rmcmanamy@cadzation.com
-------------------------
518 South Route 31 Suite 200
McHenry, IL 60050
http://www.cadzation.com
Providing Industrial Strength
PDF & DWF Solutions to the
Global CAD Marketplace.

"Turbo" wrote in message
news:5130862@discussion.autodesk.com...
who do you think you are, having a positive attitude like that? I think
that positive comments regarding Autodesk are completely inappropriate, and
should be banned from this website.....

Jack Talsky
Message 33 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

How did you get those numbers? I get 687 KB for the AutoCAD version and 261
KB for Acrobat 6

>Instead they now give the customes a PDF that is 3.0 MB for the Wilhome.dwg
>sample, Adobe makes one that is 1.7 MB. and we have been making it at 180
>kb for years now.
Message 34 of 45
rculp
in reply to: Anonymous

"" What justifies the massive price increase over the past 10 years with a product like LDT that has changed very little since it was Softdesk 8 ""

WHAT??? You are obviously are using the wrong tools.
But hey, that's just me.

Randall Culp
Civil-Structural Design Technician
(aka CADaver)
Message 35 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Sorry I'll double check the numbers. Our sales guy tested them and they
were inline with previous results. It should be 1.17 MB and it looks like
it was at 1200 dpi from Adobe 7.0 from what I am getting. I just made the
same mistake that I think he did and I forgot that AutoCAD doesn't use the
dpi from the Adobe Settings and it uses the one under the Custom
Properties->Layouts->Advanced instead.

The Wilhome.dwg drawing we are using is from the AutoCAD 2004 Samples
directory and is the same one that Cadalyst has used in the past for
comparison. I'm testing the layout only to Arch D at a plot scale of 1:1,
Extents, Normal Plot Quality, acad.ctb, no scale lineweights, plot with plot
styles, plot paperspace last, and landscape so in Adobe it comes out
rotated.

Using Acrobat 7.0.7 Professional Now after making sure that both the
conversion settings and the correct DPI were set to 300 dpi prior to opening
AutoCAD I got 706 KB direct to the Acrobat PDFWriter and 702 KB using the
PDFMaker.

I also double checked the Autodesk 2007 one and setting all of the
resolutions to 300 dpi in the Custom Properties I still get 2.62 MB on a
machine with the last beta. I'll double check it on a new machine with the
release version to double check it.

I'll also double check it with Adobe 6.0.

What settings are you using?

--
Rodney McManamy
President
CADzation
-------------------------
rmcmanamy@cadzation.com
-------------------------
518 South Route 31 Suite 200
McHenry, IL 60050
http://www.cadzation.com
Providing Industrial Strength
PDF & DWF Solutions to the
Global CAD Marketplace.

"Rick Moore" wrote in message
news:5131681@discussion.autodesk.com...
How did you get those numbers? I get 687 KB for the AutoCAD version and 261
KB for Acrobat 6

>Instead they now give the customes a PDF that is 3.0 MB for the Wilhome.dwg
>sample, Adobe makes one that is 1.7 MB. and we have been making it at 180
>kb for years now.
Message 36 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Rick,

We also just had one of the author's who does quite a bit of writing on the
AEC side to test it and she had 3.05 MB for the Wilhome using the AutoCAD
2007 built-in DWG to PDF.pc3 with the default settings which are 400 dpi.
Is your 687 KB from AutoCAD using the Adobe PDFMaker add-in or from the
AutoCAD 2007 built-in DWG to PDF.pc3?

So I would really like to know how you are getting your results. If you
want to call me directly at 847-778-8333 we can compare settings so we can
get some really accurate numbers for the users.

--
Rodney McManamy
President
CADzation
-------------------------
rmcmanamy@cadzation.com
-------------------------
518 South Route 31 Suite 200
McHenry, IL 60050
http://www.cadzation.com
Providing Industrial Strength
PDF & DWF Solutions to the
Global CAD Marketplace.

"Rick Moore" wrote in message
news:5131681@discussion.autodesk.com...
How did you get those numbers? I get 687 KB for the AutoCAD version and 261
KB for Acrobat 6

>Instead they now give the customes a PDF that is 3.0 MB for the Wilhome.dwg
>sample, Adobe makes one that is 1.7 MB. and we have been making it at 180
>kb for years now.
Message 37 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You're barking up the wrong tree. He's BSD (Buildings), C3D is ISD
(Infrastructure). Corporate world, whatcha going to do...

If you really feel like knowing ask Dave on the next Dave and Dan show. If
you ask with an actually open mind, he'll tell you what they've done, what
they haven't done, where they're headed. You might have to sign an NDA to
get the full scoop, but the ISD team is forthright and actively pursues open
conversations with their users. You just have to be willing to listen to get
one started. Trust me on this, it took me some time to learn that part.

--
James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
Civil 3D 2006 SP2
XP Tablet, SP2, 2GHz, 1.5G
www.eng-eff.com
www.civil3d.com
Message 38 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Adobe Acrobat 6 PDF, default settings (standard 600 dpi)

>What settings are you using?
Message 39 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I used the built-in PDF printer from 2007, and it was bumped up to 4800 dpi.
I'm also curious as to how you're getting 3 megs - I'll call you later

"Rodney McManamy - CADzation" wrote in message
news:5132032@discussion.autodesk.com...
Rick,

We also just had one of the author's who does quite a bit of writing on the
AEC side to test it and she had 3.05 MB for the Wilhome using the AutoCAD
2007 built-in DWG to PDF.pc3 with the default settings which are 400 dpi.
Is your 687 KB from AutoCAD using the Adobe PDFMaker add-in or from the
AutoCAD 2007 built-in DWG to PDF.pc3?

So I would really like to know how you are getting your results. If you
want to call me directly at 847-778-8333 we can compare settings so we can
get some really accurate numbers for the users.
Message 40 of 45
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

With Rick's help we finally figured out what was going on.

We did some more testing and we found a huge difference with Autodesk's PDF
output between the various versions of the Wilhome.dwg that are shipped with
AutoCAD. The version that we test is from AutoCAD 2002 but the AutoCAD 2004
version yeilds significantly smaller PDF files from Autodesk's output. For
ours and Adobe's the sizes are virtually the same.

But then in 2006 Autodesk changed the Wilhome drawing significantly and took
out half of the data in it which is why Rick's were so much smaller.

Final results are testing procedure are posted on the following webpage.

http://www.cadzation.com/acad2007.htm

--
Rodney McManamy
President
CADzation
-------------------------
rmcmanamy@cadzation.com
-------------------------
518 South Route 31 Suite 200
McHenry, IL 60050
http://www.cadzation.com
Providing Industrial Strength
PDF & DWF Solutions to the
Global CAD Marketplace.

"Rick Moore" wrote in message
news:5132676@discussion.autodesk.com...
I used the built-in PDF printer from 2007, and it was bumped up to 4800 dpi.
I'm also curious as to how you're getting 3 megs - I'll call you later

"Rodney McManamy - CADzation" wrote in message
news:5132032@discussion.autodesk.com...
Rick,

We also just had one of the author's who does quite a bit of writing on the
AEC side to test it and she had 3.05 MB for the Wilhome using the AutoCAD
2007 built-in DWG to PDF.pc3 with the default settings which are 400 dpi.
Is your 687 KB from AutoCAD using the Adobe PDFMaker add-in or from the
AutoCAD 2007 built-in DWG to PDF.pc3?

So I would really like to know how you are getting your results. If you
want to call me directly at 847-778-8333 we can compare settings so we can
get some really accurate numbers for the users.

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