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*Don Reichle
Message 71 of 255 (397 Views)

Re: My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

04-30-2007 07:25 PM in reply to: *Matt Stachoni
Then you've obviously got quite the memories Mr. Dotson. ;0)

For the 70th percentile, I mean.
:-o

Well done!

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"Terry W. Dotson" wrote in message
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Matt Stachoni wrote:

> So, I'll ask you guys: Was this a decent CAD questionnaire?

I would have barely made it with around 70%. Of course I haven't
actually USED the application in the past 15 years.

Terry
*Doug Broad
Message 72 of 255 (397 Views)

Re: My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

04-30-2007 07:25 PM in reply to: *Matt Stachoni
Not wanting to put any main entities on layer 0 is understandable but hard coding all
block sub-entities to other layers is not generally a cooperative way to work.

Using multiple layers in blocks can be a reasonable choice (although I try to avoid it
where possible).

A set of plans from an equipment vendor I'm working on tonight has number layer names with
multiple numbered layers in each block. It must work well for them, but I can't even
figure out which layers to turn off for my related plans until I refedit the blocks.
Yuck. Their system ranks right up there with hard coding colors, linetypes and
lineweights IMO.




"Dave Drahn" wrote in message
news:5569968@discussion.autodesk.com...
They are created with layers that we can control through the layer manager
(well, with routines that change layer colors/linetypes as needed). What if
you have a block that has a need for different lineweights within it? I
suppose you could give poly width, but that limits you by the viewports
scale. Or a block that, in one viewport, you need to turn part of it off?
So, yea, no other good way to deal with that and those are the kinds of
blocks we have - they're kind of detailed.

As far as freeze/thaw (visibility of the entire block), that's accomplished
by what layer the block sits on (our block placement layers are named in
accordance with their "plan space") and has nothing to do with what layers
the block entities are created on - that layer it sits on also does not have
any affect on the color of the block, which is the way we need it here.

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*Dean Saadallah
Message 73 of 255 (397 Views)

Re: My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

04-30-2007 08:13 PM in reply to: *Matt Stachoni
Very 'wordy' responses required, assuming they've even cracked open
the CUI and other customizations/what ifs type of questions.
I find timed task based/drawing test work better, it makes the test
taker more comfortable, relaxed and less likely to give me the "right"
answer but to show me.

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*Matt Stachoni
Message 74 of 255 (397 Views)

Re: My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

04-30-2007 08:41 PM in reply to: *Matt Stachoni
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:12:16 +0000, C O Jones <> wrote:

>11. If you dimension two parallel walls and get a dimension of 14'-5 13/256",what do you do?
>
>So you want them to move the wall by some amount to make the value more like 14'-5 1/4". But, maybe now the other dimensions effected by this arbitrary change are reading in the 256's?

Yes, and if things are done correctly, the other 256" will cancel themselves
out.

If the building is 50'x50', then any single x/256" dimension will cause another
one on the other side of the dimension, somewhere. Start fixing the geometry to
be as desired (assuming you never actually draw/dimension anything to such a
ridiculous number) and the errors will logically fall out.

Matt
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*Matt Stachoni
Message 75 of 255 (397 Views)

Re: My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

04-30-2007 08:48 PM in reply to: *Matt Stachoni
On Tue, 1 May 2007 00:18:52 +0000, Dave Drahn wrote:

>It actually uses the first pont as a displacement value (which, strangely,
>is what it says it will do) - ie, if you type move, select the thing(s) and
>pick a base point at 6257025.6455,2116004.4333,20.0000, then hit enter,
>it'll move you object(s) by that displacement value (an additional X,Y,Z)
>which to the guy who doesn't realize what he's doing, probably looks a lot
>like disappearing.

Yep, you are definitely right on that. But I don't know how many times it's
vexed me.

>Pretty hard to get the extra credit when the teacher doesn't know the
>answer...

Yep. Thanks for the clarification.

Matt
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*Don Reichle
Message 76 of 255 (397 Views)

Re: My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

04-30-2007 10:46 PM in reply to: *Matt Stachoni
So seems like I need to revise my last line just a tad...

'To each their own, but if it comes into "my" firm's "range" it shall be
revised to suit "my" firm.'
:-o

Each of us have been able through varied circumstances what works best for
us.

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Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." :-o
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
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!! They appreciate staying in the loop :-) !!

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"Doug Broad" wrote in message
news:5570004@discussion.autodesk.com...
Not wanting to put any main entities on layer 0 is understandable but hard
coding all
block sub-entities to other layers is not generally a cooperative way to
work.

Using multiple layers in blocks can be a reasonable choice (although I try
to avoid it
where possible).

A set of plans from an equipment vendor I'm working on tonight has number
layer names with
multiple numbered layers in each block. It must work well for them, but I
can't even
figure out which layers to turn off for my related plans until I refedit the
blocks.
Yuck. Their system ranks right up there with hard coding colors, linetypes
and
lineweights IMO.




"Dave Drahn" wrote in message
news:5569968@discussion.autodesk.com...
They are created with layers that we can control through the layer manager
(well, with routines that change layer colors/linetypes as needed). What if
you have a block that has a need for different lineweights within it? I
suppose you could give poly width, but that limits you by the viewports
scale. Or a block that, in one viewport, you need to turn part of it off?
So, yea, no other good way to deal with that and those are the kinds of
blocks we have - they're kind of detailed.

As far as freeze/thaw (visibility of the entire block), that's accomplished
by what layer the block sits on (our block placement layers are named in
accordance with their "plan space") and has nothing to do with what layers
the block entities are created on - that layer it sits on also does not have
any affect on the color of the block, which is the way we need it here.

.
*Matt Stachoni
Message 77 of 255 (397 Views)

Re: My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

05-01-2007 04:14 AM in reply to: *Matt Stachoni
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:11:03 +0000, Lance W. wrote:

>How about, what's a block? Do you mean wblocks?

There is no such thing as a WBLOCK. It's a command.

-1 point.

Matt
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*Matt Stachoni
Message 78 of 255 (397 Views)

Re: My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

05-01-2007 04:17 AM in reply to: *Matt Stachoni
On Tue, 1 May 2007 00:31:42 +0000, Lance W. wrote:

>We still use ctb's too, despite what tons of people say I really don't
>see the need to switch.
>
>BYBLOCK, just gives me that one little extra level of control. I don't
>always want a new layer for one block.

BYBLOCk is excellent for linetypes, so I could e.g. show a pedestal cabinet on
the Furniture layer to be either Continuous (ByLayer) and Hidden if under a
worksurface, without creating another layer, block or *gasp* exploding the block
reference back to linework.

Matt
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*Matt Stachoni
Message 79 of 255 (397 Views)

Re: My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

05-01-2007 04:19 AM in reply to: *Matt Stachoni
On Tue, 1 May 2007 00:20:21 +0000, Don Reichle
wrote:
>Most often we wouldn't be changing all Layers colors in a particular XREF in
>this manner. Sometimes we want a certain Layer to be less "Screened" than
>the others in that XREF. Some need to stand out more than others.

Okay, but if your layering convention follows something logical, e.g. all
annotation is put on an ANNO layer, then the use of wildcards for layer control
is extremely effective.

Matt
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*Matt Stachoni
Message 80 of 255 (397 Views)

Re: My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

05-01-2007 04:23 AM in reply to: *Matt Stachoni
On Tue, 1 May 2007 03:13:08 +0000, Dean Saadallah
company> wrote:

>Very 'wordy' responses required, assuming they've even cracked open
>the CUI and other customizations/what ifs type of questions.
>I find timed task based/drawing test work better, it makes the test
>taker more comfortable, relaxed and less likely to give me the "right"
>answer but to show me.

That was my preference - in fact I wanted to just give the person a simple
sketch of a building floor plan, have the person work on it at home or wherever,
then submit it for examination.

That would tell me a LOT more about the person's skill set than some dopey word
test.

Matt
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