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My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

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My first CAD test: Was I too tough?

all,

I've never given any prospective employee a "CAD Test," but I was asked to do so
today. I quickly came up with 20 questions which I figured any knowledgable
person who knows the program would be able to hit it out the park.

Instead, I got a serious case of deer-in-the-headlights-itis.

I didn't want to make it version specific, but I understand some questions would
not be answerable for someone running an older release, and gave the person a
pass in those cases.

I also didn't care if the questions were "useful" on a day to day basis; the
idea was to get an idea of how well the user knows AutoCAD.

So, I'll ask you guys: Was this a decent CAD questionnaire?

1. What are the names of the first 7 AutoCAD ACI colors?
1 =
2 =
3 =
4 =
5 =
6 =
7 =

2. What are System Variables? How are they used?

3. When dimensioning in Model space, what DIMSCALE value would you use for
dimensioning for a 3/16"=1'-0" plot?

4. When working with External References (Xrefs) what is the difference between
Overlay and Attach?

5. How would you specify a Viewport scale of 1/4"=1'-0" in a Paper Space
Viewport, using the Command Line?

6. What is a CUI file?

7. What is a fast method for selecting MText objects with a Style of "MEDIUM"?

8. What does the FROM osnap do?

9. What does Zoom Dynamic do?

10. What are the special rules concerning layers and colors in Blocks?

11. If you dimension two parallel walls and get a dimension of 14'-5 13/256",
what do you do?

12. What is one way of dimensioning something along an angle?

13. Explain the difference between the DIVIDE and MEASURE commands.

14. What does PSLTSCALE do?

15. What is an easy way to open an Xref from a parent file?

16. What is an easy way to close a Polyline?

17. What support file do you modify to create custom command aliases?

18. What is the command-line sequence you would use to change all Xref layer
colors to color #8 (gray)?

19. What does BATTMAN do?

20. What command do you use to change your default Plotter?

Extra Credit / Trick Questions:

1. During the MOVE command, what happens if you hit in response to the
"Specify second point or :" prompt?

2. What generally happens when you do a PERPendicular Osnap on a Spline curve?


I had some more trick questions, but since the first 20 didn't go so well, we
just called it a day at that point 😞


Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com
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Message 61 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

They are created with layers that we can control through the layer manager
(well, with routines that change layer colors/linetypes as needed). What if
you have a block that has a need for different lineweights within it? I
suppose you could give poly width, but that limits you by the viewports
scale. Or a block that, in one viewport, you need to turn part of it off?
So, yea, no other good way to deal with that and those are the kinds of
blocks we have - they're kind of detailed.

As far as freeze/thaw (visibility of the entire block), that's accomplished
by what layer the block sits on (our block placement layers are named in
accordance with their "plan space") and has nothing to do with what layers
the block entities are created on - that layer it sits on also does not have
any affect on the color of the block, which is the way we need it here.

... so boo back, Don (tongue raspberryin' you back)

"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:5569963@discussion.autodesk.com...
Boo, hiss, boo Dave.

So your Blocks rest on Layers that need to be kept track of?

As to whether they're:
On;
Off;
Frozen;
or Thawed?

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

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"The only Constant is Change".

"Dave Drahn" wrote in message
news:5569942@discussion.autodesk.com...
And our standard is that NOTHING is drawn on layer 0...

"Lance W." wrote in message
news:5569702@discussion.autodesk.com...
See I prefer BYBLOCK

Matt Stachoni wrote:
>
>>> 10. What are the special rules concerning layers and colors in Blocks?
>> This answer could be an AU topic .
>
> She actually did give the right answer I was looking form, which was to
> use
> Layer 0 and color Bylayer.
Message 62 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Matt Stachoni wrote:

> So, I'll ask you guys: Was this a decent CAD questionnaire?

I would have barely made it with around 70%. Of course I haven't
actually USED the application in the past 15 years.

Terry
Message 63 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

My buddy Joe Bouza over in the LDT DG came up with a dwg file test, he
wished to give prospective employees.

It's attached for your perusal. And so you can get a "hint" at how us
dirt-daubers might consider attempting to find out how much someone knows
regarding our line of work?

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

wrote in message news:5569574@discussion.autodesk.com...
your questions seem a little slanted to customization....
i created one cad test in my life, a set of verbal instructions to draw
objects with, a word problem in math terms.
i guess it really depends on what your looking for in a drafter?
Message 64 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Then we'll just leave it with everybody has their own preferences, or...

To each their own".

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

"Dave Drahn" wrote in message
news:5569968@discussion.autodesk.com...
They are created with layers that we can control through the layer manager
(well, with routines that change layer colors/linetypes as needed). What if
you have a block that has a need for different lineweights within it? I
suppose you could give poly width, but that limits you by the viewports
scale. Or a block that, in one viewport, you need to turn part of it off?
So, yea, no other good way to deal with that and those are the kinds of
blocks we have - they're kind of detailed.

As far as freeze/thaw (visibility of the entire block), that's accomplished
by what layer the block sits on (our block placement layers are named in
accordance with their "plan space") and has nothing to do with what layers
the block entities are created on - that layer it sits on also does not have
any affect on the color of the block, which is the way we need it here.

... so boo back, Don (tongue raspberryin' you back)

"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:5569963@discussion.autodesk.com...
Boo, hiss, boo Dave.

So your Blocks rest on Layers that need to be kept track of?

As to whether they're:
On;
Off;
Frozen;
or Thawed?

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

"Dave Drahn" wrote in message
news:5569942@discussion.autodesk.com...
And our standard is that NOTHING is drawn on layer 0...

"Lance W." wrote in message
news:5569702@discussion.autodesk.com...
See I prefer BYBLOCK

Matt Stachoni wrote:
>
>>> 10. What are the special rules concerning layers and colors in Blocks?
>> This answer could be an AU topic .
>
> She actually did give the right answer I was looking form, which was to
> use
> Layer 0 and color Bylayer.
Message 65 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

snip>Bonus: What is Autosave, what should its setting be, and what does it
create?
a)Autosave is "insurance" for the revisions you've made to a dwg file.
b)The least amount of time a Firm/User is willing to use in re-creating the
most-recent revisions made to a dwg file.
c)An SV$ file in an easily accessible Folder where a User can retrieve it.
Such as c:\Temp\SV$-Files

Due to Land Desktop's penchant for crashing at the slightest provocation,
I've become pretty friendly with the use of Autosave. ;0)

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

wrote in message news:5569696@discussion.autodesk.com...
Matt, I like it. Cad test are funny. Many people in this group, don't have
any use for them. I use a two part test. one written, and a 10 min drawing
test (a small c-store). my applicants get as much time as needed on the
written.

I've found that these combined with a good 11-15 min chat, is a great way to
quickly screen out applicants. I know many people don't test well. Or
others say you can't tell how well a person draws by a test....all true.
But IT"S A TOOL...Not the decid
ing factor...

My test which I've attached has 20 questions also. most have multipule
answers. I will never go back to untested hiring.

Paul Caruthers
Message 66 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I don't believe I like your attitude...... 🙂

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Message 67 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

snip>one i like to ask is "what is the difference between xref overlay and
xref
attach?"....
Whether you want the XREF to continue to accompany the dwg file it's
Attached to?

Overlay won't do that part.

Most of the CE firms I've been employed by prefer Overlay, if it's of any
consequence?

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

"Steven Ondrias" wrote in message
news:5569718@discussion.autodesk.com...
i would never hire that person if he couldn't answer at least 1/2 (if not
most) of those questions....

one i like to ask is "what is the difference between xref overlay and xref
attach?"....



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eagle point guru...
overall a nice guy......
t5's official sausage sender.....


"Matt Stachoni" wrote in message
news:5569527@discussion.autodesk.com...
all,

I've never given any prospective employee a "CAD Test," but I was asked to
do so
today. I quickly came up with 20 questions which I figured any knowledgable
person who knows the program would be able to hit it out the park.

Instead, I got a serious case of deer-in-the-headlights-itis.

I didn't want to make it version specific, but I understand some questions
would
not be answerable for someone running an older release, and gave the person
a
pass in those cases.

I also didn't care if the questions were "useful" on a day to day basis; the
idea was to get an idea of how well the user knows AutoCAD.

So, I'll ask you guys: Was this a decent CAD questionnaire?

1. What are the names of the first 7 AutoCAD ACI colors?
1 =
2 =
3 =
4 =
5 =
6 =
7 =

2. What are System Variables? How are they used?

3. When dimensioning in Model space, what DIMSCALE value would you use for
dimensioning for a 3/16"=1'-0" plot?

4. When working with External References (Xrefs) what is the difference
between
Overlay and Attach?

5. How would you specify a Viewport scale of 1/4"=1'-0" in a Paper Space
Viewport, using the Command Line?

6. What is a CUI file?

7. What is a fast method for selecting MText objects with a Style of
"MEDIUM"?

8. What does the FROM osnap do?

9. What does Zoom Dynamic do?

10. What are the special rules concerning layers and colors in Blocks?

11. If you dimension two parallel walls and get a dimension of 14'-5
13/256",
what do you do?

12. What is one way of dimensioning something along an angle?

13. Explain the difference between the DIVIDE and MEASURE commands.

14. What does PSLTSCALE do?

15. What is an easy way to open an Xref from a parent file?

16. What is an easy way to close a Polyline?

17. What support file do you modify to create custom command aliases?

18. What is the command-line sequence you would use to change all Xref layer
colors to color #8 (gray)?

19. What does BATTMAN do?

20. What command do you use to change your default Plotter?

Extra Credit / Trick Questions:

1. During the MOVE command, what happens if you hit in response to
the
"Specify second point or :" prompt?

2. What generally happens when you do a PERPendicular Osnap on a Spline
curve?


I had some more trick questions, but since the first 20 didn't go so well,
we
just called it a day at that point 😞


Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com
Message 68 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

snip>But, maybe now the other dimensions effected by this arbitrary change
are reading in the 256's?
Not on a good portion of the Architectural dwg files I've had delivered to
me CO.

They are 90-95 percent "hard-coded" dimensions.

Meaning hand entered values.
:-o

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

wrote in message news:5569779@discussion.autodesk.com...
11. If you dimension two parallel walls and get a dimension of 14'-5
13/256",what do you do?

So you want them to move the wall by some amount to make the value more like
14'-5 1/4". But, maybe now the other dimensions effected by this arbitrary
change are reading in the 256's?
Message 69 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

!! LOL !!

That was priceless CB, thanks very much!

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

"CB" wrote in message
news:5569936@discussion.autodesk.com...
I think I did pretty good. Below my test is the test we give.

1. What are the names of the first 7 AutoCAD ACI colors?
1 = Color1
2 = Color2
3 = Color3
4 = Color4
5 = Color5
6 = Color6
7 = Color7

2. What are System Variables? How are they used?

Answer: System Variables are variables used by the system.


3. When dimensioning in Model space, what DIMSCALE value would you use for
dimensioning for a 3/16"=1'-0" plot?

Answer: What ever looks right. If it does not look right then explode and
scale all the little pieces.

4. When working with External References (Xrefs) what is the difference
between
Overlay and Attach?

Answer: Attach will destroy your family and create orphined children.
Overlay will not.

5. How would you specify a Viewport scale of 1/4"=1'-0" in a Paper Space
Viewport, using the Command Line?

Answer: Inside the viewport type in "zoom". Then type in "real time".
Eyeball it into scale.

6. What is a CUI file?

Answer: It is a file that allows for autocad to never open the same way
twice. It also hides things from you when you need them.

7. What is a fast method for selecting MText objects with a Style of
"MEDIUM"?

Answer: Select everything on the screen. Then unselect anything that does
not look medium or text.

8. What does the FROM osnap do?

Answer: From anyplace on the screen that you want.

9. What does Zoom Dynamic do?

Answer: It zooms dynamically

10. What are the special rules concerning layers and colors in Blocks?

Answer: All layers must have a color. All blocks must be on a layer.
Therefore all blocks have color and are on a layer.

11. If you dimension two parallel walls and get a dimension of 14'-5
13/256",
what do you do?

Answer: Explode the dimension. Make it whatever works. Then rescale the
dimension.

12. What is one way of dimensioning something along an angle?

Answer: Draw and arc and insert mtext with a width of 500'. Explode some
random standard dimensions and harvest the arrow heads.

13. Explain the difference between the DIVIDE and MEASURE commands.

Answer: Divide will take a larger number and give its multiplier based on
another number. Measure will not do this.

14. What does PSLTSCALE do?

Answer: Nothing untill you tell it to.

15. What is an easy way to open an Xref from a parent file?

Answer: Ask someone else to do it.

16. What is an easy way to close a Polyline?

Answer: Create it closed in the first place.

17. What support file do you modify to create custom command aliases?

Answer: Modify the IT work order submittal file. Add work order for IT
department to add custom aliases.

18. What is the command-line sequence you would use to change all Xref layer
colors to color #8 (gray)?

Answer: Select all, Explode, Select all, color, 8.

19. What does BATTMAN do?

Answer: He fights crime in the streets of Gotham.

20. What command do you use to change your default Plotter?

Answer: ext 394. IT deparment.

Extra Credit / Trick Questions:

1. During the MOVE command, what happens if you hit in response to
the
"Specify second point or :" prompt?

Answer: It moves

2. What generally happens when you do a PERPendicular Osnap on a Spline
curve?

Answer: You get what you pay for.


**********Our Test************************

1. Double clicking on an Icon will sometimes do what?

2. When breathing. After you inhale you will most likely need to ____?
a. inhale
b. breath
c. exhale

3. True or False. You can consistantly maintain a body tempature over 98
degrees farenhight.

4. CADD stands for
a. computer aided drafting and design
b. computer aided drafting and design
c. Payday

5. True or False. There are 5 or more working days in a week.

Bonus:
1. A keyboard is used for what purpose.

2. True or False. Computers were invented to surf the internets.
Message 70 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Good ones John, you and I must know similar architects?

See below please.

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

wrote in message news:5569943@discussion.autodesk.com...
How about something more realistic for entry level Cad staff.
I'm a dirt guy but will try to take a swing at the Archies.

1.) I need twenty signed sets at City Hall by 4 o'clock and that one hallway
needs to be 8 feet wide and I got to run.
Can you do it?
And which hallway are you referring to sir/ma'am?

2.) The Contractor called with a question can you take care of it?
Sure - the message slip will be on your desk when you get back sir/ma'am.

3) The surveyor called and said the building didn't add up. Take care of it,
I have a luncheon.
Sir/Ma'am, which portions did they say don't add up?

4) The client requested a 3D building model on monday with a walk thru
presentation, I told him yes. You can have all the time you want.
Which Monday would that be sir/ma'am? Certainly not today?

5.) Can we have some different colors on that stuff, I like it but just some
tweeks.
You meant to say some "more" tweeks, right sir/ma'am?

6) I don't like that Column there, get back to that Structural guy, you know
what's his name, and tell him if it doesn't move this submittal goes south.
You mean the center support column, right sir/ma'am? And you have the
Structural's business card in your Rolodex, sir/ma'am?

7) Can you find me a lunch tomorrow?
With which client tomorrow, sir/ma'am?
Message 71 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Then you've obviously got quite the memories Mr. Dotson. ;0)

For the 70th percentile, I mean.
:-o

Well done!

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
-------------------------- ------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

LDT-2K4
AMD Athlon64 2.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
WD Raptor 10K-rpm 37GB HD
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB

"The only Constant is Change".

"Terry W. Dotson" wrote in message
news:5569921@discussion.autodesk.com...
Matt Stachoni wrote:

> So, I'll ask you guys: Was this a decent CAD questionnaire?

I would have barely made it with around 70%. Of course I haven't
actually USED the application in the past 15 years.

Terry
Message 72 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Not wanting to put any main entities on layer 0 is understandable but hard coding all
block sub-entities to other layers is not generally a cooperative way to work.

Using multiple layers in blocks can be a reasonable choice (although I try to avoid it
where possible).

A set of plans from an equipment vendor I'm working on tonight has number layer names with
multiple numbered layers in each block. It must work well for them, but I can't even
figure out which layers to turn off for my related plans until I refedit the blocks.
Yuck. Their system ranks right up there with hard coding colors, linetypes and
lineweights IMO.




"Dave Drahn" wrote in message
news:5569968@discussion.autodesk.com...
They are created with layers that we can control through the layer manager
(well, with routines that change layer colors/linetypes as needed). What if
you have a block that has a need for different lineweights within it? I
suppose you could give poly width, but that limits you by the viewports
scale. Or a block that, in one viewport, you need to turn part of it off?
So, yea, no other good way to deal with that and those are the kinds of
blocks we have - they're kind of detailed.

As far as freeze/thaw (visibility of the entire block), that's accomplished
by what layer the block sits on (our block placement layers are named in
accordance with their "plan space") and has nothing to do with what layers
the block entities are created on - that layer it sits on also does not have
any affect on the color of the block, which is the way we need it here.

.
Message 73 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Very 'wordy' responses required, assuming they've even cracked open
the CUI and other customizations/what ifs type of questions.
I find timed task based/drawing test work better, it makes the test
taker more comfortable, relaxed and less likely to give me the "right"
answer but to show me.

--
Dean Saadallah
Add-on products for LT
http://www.pendean.com/lt
--
Message 74 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:12:16 +0000, C O Jones <> wrote:

>11. If you dimension two parallel walls and get a dimension of 14'-5 13/256",what do you do?
>
>So you want them to move the wall by some amount to make the value more like 14'-5 1/4". But, maybe now the other dimensions effected by this arbitrary change are reading in the 256's?

Yes, and if things are done correctly, the other 256" will cancel themselves
out.

If the building is 50'x50', then any single x/256" dimension will cause another
one on the other side of the dimension, somewhere. Start fixing the geometry to
be as desired (assuming you never actually draw/dimension anything to such a
ridiculous number) and the errors will logically fall out.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com
Message 75 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

On Tue, 1 May 2007 00:18:52 +0000, Dave Drahn wrote:

>It actually uses the first pont as a displacement value (which, strangely,
>is what it says it will do) - ie, if you type move, select the thing(s) and
>pick a base point at 6257025.6455,2116004.4333,20.0000, then hit enter,
>it'll move you object(s) by that displacement value (an additional X,Y,Z)
>which to the guy who doesn't realize what he's doing, probably looks a lot
>like disappearing.

Yep, you are definitely right on that. But I don't know how many times it's
vexed me.

>Pretty hard to get the extra credit when the teacher doesn't know the
>answer...

Yep. Thanks for the clarification.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com
Message 76 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

So seems like I need to revise my last line just a tad...

'To each their own, but if it comes into "my" firm's "range" it shall be
revised to suit "my" firm.'
:-o

Each of us have been able through varied circumstances what works best for
us.

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"Doug Broad" wrote in message
news:5570004@discussion.autodesk.com...
Not wanting to put any main entities on layer 0 is understandable but hard
coding all
block sub-entities to other layers is not generally a cooperative way to
work.

Using multiple layers in blocks can be a reasonable choice (although I try
to avoid it
where possible).

A set of plans from an equipment vendor I'm working on tonight has number
layer names with
multiple numbered layers in each block. It must work well for them, but I
can't even
figure out which layers to turn off for my related plans until I refedit the
blocks.
Yuck. Their system ranks right up there with hard coding colors, linetypes
and
lineweights IMO.




"Dave Drahn" wrote in message
news:5569968@discussion.autodesk.com...
They are created with layers that we can control through the layer manager
(well, with routines that change layer colors/linetypes as needed). What if
you have a block that has a need for different lineweights within it? I
suppose you could give poly width, but that limits you by the viewports
scale. Or a block that, in one viewport, you need to turn part of it off?
So, yea, no other good way to deal with that and those are the kinds of
blocks we have - they're kind of detailed.

As far as freeze/thaw (visibility of the entire block), that's accomplished
by what layer the block sits on (our block placement layers are named in
accordance with their "plan space") and has nothing to do with what layers
the block entities are created on - that layer it sits on also does not have
any affect on the color of the block, which is the way we need it here.

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Message 77 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:11:03 +0000, Lance W. wrote:

>How about, what's a block? Do you mean wblocks?

There is no such thing as a WBLOCK. It's a command.

-1 point.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com
Message 78 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

On Tue, 1 May 2007 00:31:42 +0000, Lance W. wrote:

>We still use ctb's too, despite what tons of people say I really don't
>see the need to switch.
>
>BYBLOCK, just gives me that one little extra level of control. I don't
>always want a new layer for one block.

BYBLOCk is excellent for linetypes, so I could e.g. show a pedestal cabinet on
the Furniture layer to be either Continuous (ByLayer) and Hidden if under a
worksurface, without creating another layer, block or *gasp* exploding the block
reference back to linework.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com
Message 79 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

On Tue, 1 May 2007 00:20:21 +0000, Don Reichle
wrote:
>Most often we wouldn't be changing all Layers colors in a particular XREF in
>this manner. Sometimes we want a certain Layer to be less "Screened" than
>the others in that XREF. Some need to stand out more than others.

Okay, but if your layering convention follows something logical, e.g. all
annotation is put on an ANNO layer, then the use of wildcards for layer control
is extremely effective.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com
Message 80 of 256
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

On Tue, 1 May 2007 03:13:08 +0000, Dean Saadallah
company> wrote:

>Very 'wordy' responses required, assuming they've even cracked open
>the CUI and other customizations/what ifs type of questions.
>I find timed task based/drawing test work better, it makes the test
>taker more comfortable, relaxed and less likely to give me the "right"
>answer but to show me.

That was my preference - in fact I wanted to just give the person a simple
sketch of a building floor plan, have the person work on it at home or wherever,
then submit it for examination.

That would tell me a LOT more about the person's skill set than some dopey word
test.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com

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