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daisymay
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looking to get into CAD field...

I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am interested in finding out how to get into CAD/drafting...

I've been at home with the kids for 5 years, and am looking to reenter the workforce soon. I have a MS in environmental science, GIS experience, and used to do environmental consulting along with GIS work and some basic AutoCAD work (basically adding wetland delineation GPS data to the CAD maps, etc...). What sort of classes do I need to take, to brush up on the AutoCAD, so I'd be able to apply with engineering firms? I'm *not* an engineer... and am not interested in pursuing an engineering degree, but am just looking at possibilities... The consulting work is super limited in our new area, so looking at engineering groups instead. Thanks for any advice!
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Message 2 of 28
DSchmidt001
in reply to: daisymay

Hi,
If I was you, I would get up to speed with the latest AutoCAD 2008 as a base foundation for any of the other products you might also want to train on. What kind of engineering firm are you thinking of? Civil engineering, mechanical, structural??

As for courses, I generally prefer self study, but you could contact one of the resellers close to you and see what they offer for a reasonable price. For me, a good book and some time is all that is needed.

David Schmidt
http://www.autocadstandards.org
Message 3 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

Hi Daisy,
You don't mention what part of the world you are in, but certainl here in
Ireland and in the UK there are many many courses available in Autocad
training,

If available in your area, take a look for the City & Guilds Autocad
courses. They offer a great way of getting yourself up to speed on basic 2D,
3D and Customising Autocad all for a relatively cheap price.

MJ


"daisymay" wrote in message news:5809722@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am interested in
finding out how to get into CAD/drafting...

I've been at home with the kids for 5 years, and am looking to reenter the
workforce soon. I have a MS in environmental science, GIS experience, and
used to do environmental consulting along with GIS work and some basic
AutoCAD work (basically adding wetland delineation GPS data to the CAD maps,
etc...). What sort of classes do I need to take, to brush up on the
AutoCAD, so I'd be able to apply with engineering firms? I'm *not* an
engineer... and am not interested in pursuing an engineering degree, but am
just looking at possibilities... The consulting work is super limited in our
new area, so looking at engineering groups instead. Thanks for any advice!
Message 4 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

IMO you should go directly to the type of employer(s) you want to be
employed by and ask them directly. Call their associations and related focus
groups for the type of engineering you want to be involved with, go to some
lunches as a guest and start networking. Ask questions there and build
leads.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/


wrote in message news:5809722@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am interested in
finding out how to get into CAD/drafting...

I've been at home with the kids for 5 years, and am looking to reenter the
workforce soon. I have a MS in environmental science, GIS experience, and
used to do environmental consulting along with GIS work and some basic
AutoCAD work (basically adding wetland delineation GPS data to the CAD maps,
etc...). What sort of classes do I need to take, to brush up on the
AutoCAD, so I'd be able to apply with engineering firms? I'm *not* an
engineer... and am not interested in pursuing an engineering degree, but am
just looking at possibilities... The consulting work is super limited in our
new area, so looking at engineering groups instead. Thanks for any advice!
Message 5 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

Well, just to get started, I'd check with your local Community College.
While they tend to offer a 2 year degrees, the one that I went to also
offered 'certificates'. In my case, while working toward my Associates,
I took classes that earned me a '2D AutoCAD Certification', a '3D
AutoCAD Certification' and a 'Surveying Certification'... I believe it
was only one class to earn each of those, so I'd check to see if you
could take an intro or mid-range CAD class for a semester to get you
back into it.

If you don't want to take the time for that, I'd check into a 2 day
class with your local Autodesk Reseller. The community college route
might be cheaper, but, obviously this one will be much faster to complete.
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=1088201


After that, continuing education in CAD... you've obviously found this
place. 😉 Great resource for finding quick answers to your CAD questions.

Then there's also AUGI (User Group which is free to join)... in addition
to the discussion forums, they've got free online monthly classes (ATP)
and access to past handouts from Autodesk University
(www.augi.com/education).

There are places that offer online or dvd training like CADLearning...
it isn't free though (they do release some lessons free and discounted
to AUGI members, 'e-Learning' at the above link).
http://www.cadlearning.com/

Good luck!
(don't forget to check out the 2007 Salary Survey results at
www.augi.com/surveys next month)

Melanie Perry
***not all who wander are lost***
http://MistressOfTheDorkness.blogspot.com

daisymay wrote:
> I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am interested in finding out how to get into CAD/drafting...
>
> I've been at home with the kids for 5 years, and am looking to reenter the workforce soon. I have a MS in environmental science, GIS experience, and used to do environmental consulting along with GIS work and some basic AutoCAD work (basically adding wetland delineation GPS data to the CAD maps, etc...). What sort of classes do I need to take, to brush up on the AutoCAD, so I'd be able to apply with engineering firms? I'm *not* an engineer... and am not interested in pursuing an engineering degree, but am just looking at possibilities... The consulting work is super limited in our new area, so looking at engineering groups instead. Thanks for any advice!
Message 6 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

Daisy,

I have taught at Authorized Training Centers and currently teach at a
community college. And although I am a teacher, and should have a vested
interest in perpetuating the system, you may be surprised to hear me say
that you most likely don't need to take classes to learn AutoCAD and
whatever else you want to learn.

You do need a computer and a legal copy of the program. If you are a
student, you can buy a student version of AutoCAD Architecture, or MEP 2008
for about $160. That's an unbelievable bargain. You can also legally
download Revit and Civil 3D, etc. However, all student software may not be
used for commercial work. So I suggest you look into buying AutoCAD LT 2008,
which should cost under $1,000. Please know that it will pay to do things
legally and in the right order.

Make sure you find a field that attracts you personally. Ideally, you will
find work that you'd be willing to do for free, because it feels like so
much fun (for example architectural work, interiors, street improvements,
grading, 3D modeling, rendering, animation, programming or whatever you
like). There is almost nothing like working late at night or for long hours
on a project you love, knowing you're getting paid to do it.

Once you have the software, become intimately familiar with the contents of
the Help System (F1). Read it in your spare time. Look for tutorials online.
Buy some courseware, usually under $80 and work through it on your own.
Three to four day classes cost several hundred dollars. You can do those on
your own. Become very familiar with the Autodesk newsgroups. You will find
many talented, generous people who will help you if you ask. If you can't do
these things, you might consider traditional employment, instead of
consulting.

>>am not interested in pursuing an engineering degree<< I hope that by that
>>you don't mean that you're not willing to learn and understand the field
>>you will be getting into. Drafts people as "smart" Xerox machines is a
>>dangerous recipe. I am not saying you need to become an engineer. However,
>>you need to have an open, inquisitive attitude if you want to make it as a
>>consultant. Best wishes for a happy and prosperous New Year.

--
Regards from Los Angeles,

Emmanuel
Microsoft Windows Vista
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.4 GHz 3GB RAM
NVidia GeForce 8500 GT 512 MB


"daisymay" wrote in message news:5809722@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am interested in
finding out how to get into CAD/drafting...

I've been at home with the kids for 5 years, and am looking to reenter the
workforce soon. I have a MS in environmental science, GIS experience, and
used to do environmental consulting along with GIS work and some basic
AutoCAD work (basically adding wetland delineation GPS data to the CAD maps,
etc...). What sort of classes do I need to take, to brush up on the
AutoCAD, so I'd be able to apply with engineering firms? I'm *not* an
engineer... and am not interested in pursuing an engineering degree, but am
just looking at possibilities... The consulting work is super limited in our
new area, so looking at engineering groups instead. Thanks for any advice!
Message 7 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

And don't forget to check AUGI for a local user group in your area. They
should be able to steer you to the types of training that are available in
your area and what would be most beneficial.

I also agree that not being a CAD expert shouldn't stop you from applying
with firms in your area. Many firms will offer training in-house and/or pay
for outside training.


wrote in message news:5809722@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am interested in
finding out how to get into CAD/drafting...

I've been at home with the kids for 5 years, and am looking to reenter the
workforce soon. I have a MS in environmental science, GIS experience, and
used to do environmental consulting along with GIS work and some basic
AutoCAD work (basically adding wetland delineation GPS data to the CAD maps,
etc...). What sort of classes do I need to take, to brush up on the
AutoCAD, so I'd be able to apply with engineering firms? I'm *not* an
engineer... and am not interested in pursuing an engineering degree, but am
just looking at possibilities... The consulting work is super limited in our
new area, so looking at engineering groups instead. Thanks for any advice!
Message 8 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

I agree with CG here, Daisy. To take it to the next step, if you find a
group near enough you to communicate with, offer to work for them very
inexpensively (as an intern) 3-5 days a week. They love the cheap labor and
this is the best place for you to learn what you want in the discipline you
enjoy at the fastest rate.

We have engineering and CAD interns - some kind of peter out and disappear
and some have come on full time and been here for years. It's a win-win.

"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5809745@discussion.autodesk.com...
IMO you should go directly to the type of employer(s) you want to be
employed by and ask them directly. Call their associations and related focus
groups for the type of engineering you want to be involved with, go to some
lunches as a guest and start networking. Ask questions there and build
leads.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/


wrote in message news:5809722@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am interested in
finding out how to get into CAD/drafting...

I've been at home with the kids for 5 years, and am looking to reenter the
workforce soon. I have a MS in environmental science, GIS experience, and
used to do environmental consulting along with GIS work and some basic
AutoCAD work (basically adding wetland delineation GPS data to the CAD maps,
etc...). What sort of classes do I need to take, to brush up on the
AutoCAD, so I'd be able to apply with engineering firms? I'm *not* an
engineer... and am not interested in pursuing an engineering degree, but am
just looking at possibilities... The consulting work is super limited in our
new area, so looking at engineering groups instead. Thanks for any advice!
Message 9 of 28
tim.turner
in reply to: daisymay

There are also many classes in the archive section that you can download for free and self study. You must be a member (free) and logged in for the link to work.
http://www.augi.com/education/archive.asp?page=293
Message 10 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

run away...fast!

wrote in message news:5809722@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am interested in
finding out how to get into CAD/drafting...

I've been at home with the kids for 5 years, and am looking to reenter the
workforce soon. I have a MS in environmental science, GIS experience, and
used to do environmental consulting along with GIS work and some basic
AutoCAD work (basically adding wetland delineation GPS data to the CAD maps,
etc...). What sort of classes do I need to take, to brush up on the
AutoCAD, so I'd be able to apply with engineering firms? I'm *not* an
engineer... and am not interested in pursuing an engineering degree, but am
just looking at possibilities... The consulting work is super limited in our
new area, so looking at engineering groups instead. Thanks for any advice!
Message 11 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

I agree with Emmanuel. I gave up on the junior college thing because it was
a waste of time and money. I was teaching the teacher! I can say that
after I got some experience I did take a class at an authorized training
center and found that it filled in some holes in my knowledge very nicely.
As one who has done hiring and firing, I have often passed over people with
a degree for people who could show me that they could visualize the product
from some sketches and then document it well with CAD. It is important to
not only learn to use the software, but also to understand the product. This
is the missing component in SO many potential hires in my part of the
world--they have very little idea what they are drawing. Finding someone
who understands construction concepts (or whatever are you choose) is way
more valuable then being able to use the higher ends of the software. If I
had to do my career over, I would have spent more time on the job site while
I could afford to earn those kinds of wages. 🙂
Good luck!

wrote in message news:5809722@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am interested in
finding out how to get into CAD/drafting...

I've been at home with the kids for 5 years, and am looking to reenter the
workforce soon. I have a MS in environmental science, GIS experience, and
used to do environmental consulting along with GIS work and some basic
AutoCAD work (basically adding wetland delineation GPS data to the CAD maps,
etc...). What sort of classes do I need to take, to brush up on the
AutoCAD, so I'd be able to apply with engineering firms? I'm *not* an
engineer... and am not interested in pursuing an engineering degree, but am
just looking at possibilities... The consulting work is super limited in our
new area, so looking at engineering groups instead. Thanks for any advice!
Message 12 of 28
troye
in reply to: daisymay

What ever you decide to do remember that the community college will teach you the basics first this is very important. they tend to teach the basics of the 2D and the basics of 3D and that is all. after this you should be ready to go out and get yourself an entry level drafting position doing red line drafting. once you have accomplished this keep going to school and study whatever eng. or arch. you are interested in and get into design/drafting.
What ever you do, don't get into the CAD/BIM Managers/ Guru's position. This is something 99% of us totally regret.
Message 13 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

that's good advice for a total newb, but, I think she's just looking to
brush up her cad skills on the newer versions...
"MS in environmental science, GIS experience, and *used to do
environmental consulting along with GIS work and some basic AutoCAD
work* (basically adding wetland delineation GPS data to the CAD maps, etc"

I TOTALLY stand by your last piece of advice, though... 😉 lol.

troye wrote:
> What ever you decide to do remember that the community college will teach you the basics first this is very important. they tend to teach the basics of the 2D and the basics of 3D and that is all. after this you should be ready to go out and get yourself an entry level drafting position doing red line drafting. once you have accomplished this keep going to school and study whatever eng. or arch. you are interested in and get into design/drafting.
> What ever you do, don't get into the CAD/BIM Managers/ Guru's position. This is something 99% of us totally regret.
Message 14 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

I don't know I kind of like having minions 😛

--
Lance White
CADD Manager

Windows XP PRO (latest SP)
2008 (latest SP)
Civil 3D, LDT
Map, MAP 3D

wrote in message news:5812325@discussion.autodesk.com...
What ever you do, don't get into the CAD/BIM Managers/ Guru's position. This
is something 99% of us totally regret.
Message 15 of 28
troye
in reply to: daisymay

Sadist
Message 16 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

heh.

Hey I'm new at the "full-time" CAD Manager position, give me a little time
to revel in the power.

--

Lance White
CADD Manager

Windows XP PRO (latest SP)
2008 (latest SP)
Civil 3D, LDT
Map, MAP 3D
wrote in message news:5812369@discussion.autodesk.com...
Sadist
Message 17 of 28
troye
in reply to: daisymay

the larger the firm the worse its gets. since your new at it, stay with the CAD stuff don't get into in fact refuse the IT support stuff. Doing both is not that fun
Message 18 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

Yeah the last place I was at I did IT/CAD Mgmt/design, you get the idea. My
new place I is way bigger but AutoCAD is my focus. It's more work but less
stress..

--

Lance White
CADD Manager

Windows XP PRO (latest SP)
2008 (latest SP)
Civil 3D, LDT
Map, MAP 3D
wrote in message news:5812378@discussion.autodesk.com...
the larger the firm the worse its gets. since your new at it, stay with the
CAD stuff don't get into in fact refuse the IT support stuff. Doing both is
not that fun
Message 19 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

😜

I'll remind you of this starry-eyed perspective in a few months when
you're tempted to switch careers to burger flipper. 😉

Melanie Perry
***not all who wander are lost***
http://mistressofthedorkness.blogspot.com

Lance White wrote:
> heh.
>
> Hey I'm new at the "full-time" CAD Manager position, give me a little time
> to revel in the power.
>
Message 20 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: daisymay

That will be right about the time we start our first Civil 3D project. To
bad taking up drinking is out for me. 🙂

--

Lance White
CADD Manager

Windows XP PRO (latest SP)
2008 (latest SP)
Civil 3D, LDT
Map, MAP 3D
"Wanderer" wrote in message
news:5812441@discussion.autodesk.com...
;-p

I'll remind you of this starry-eyed perspective in a few months when
you're tempted to switch careers to burger flipper. 😉

Melanie Perry
***not all who wander are lost***
http://mistressofthedorkness.blogspot.com

Lance White wrote:
> heh.
>
> Hey I'm new at the "full-time" CAD Manager position, give me a little time
> to revel in the power.
>

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