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Message 1 of 22
tellery
546 Views, 21 Replies

License Downgrade

Does Autodesk allow you downgrade your licenses?

We use a Piping software that only needs Autocad to run. The last time we upgraded in 2006 our IT guy purchased Inventor Series. So now we are looking to upgrade Autocad only and they are saying we need to upgrade Inventor, because our license is tied to inventor.

Help!!!
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Message 2 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: tellery

This is correct. You'll need to upgrade Inventor to upgrade AutoCAD.
Or buy a new seat of just AutoCAD.

Paul

"tellery" wrote in message news:5984432@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Does Autodesk allow you downgrade your licenses?
>
> We use a Piping software that only needs Autocad to run. The last time we
> upgraded in 2006 our IT guy purchased Inventor Series. So now we are
> looking to upgrade Autocad only and they are saying we need to upgrade
> Inventor, because our license is tied to inventor.
>
> Help!!!
Message 3 of 22
tellery
in reply to: tellery

So basically we are screwed. Could you downgrade your licenses in the past????
Message 4 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: tellery

Nope.

This is progress!

--
Joshua Tapp

wrote in message news:5984435@discussion.autodesk.com...
So basically we are screwed. Could you downgrade your licenses in the
past????
Message 5 of 22
tellery
in reply to: tellery

Maybe downgrade is not the right word. Can you change your license back to Autocad? We were buying Autocad only in the past, and one stupid move by our IT guy and we are forced to always buy the other product which we will never ever use. All we need is Autocad to run our piping software, not Inventor.
Message 6 of 22
ASCunningham
in reply to: tellery

Is price your concern? Because we also only use AutoCAD but bought the pacakage deal because it was cheaper than just buying AutoCAD. I guess Autodesk is trying to move these package deals by pricing them better than plain AutoCAD, or at least that is what our reseller has stated.
Message 7 of 22
tellery
in reply to: tellery

Price is a concern, because now that we are ready to upgrade, we just want to upgrade Autocad. But, because our IT guy purchased Inventor Series are forced to Upgrade all the Products in the Inventor Series.

To upgrade ACAD 2006 to 2009 ($1500 a seat)

To Upgrade Inventer from 2006 to 2009 ($4000 a seat)
Message 8 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: tellery

How much to buy Autocad?

--

Lance White
CAD Manager

Windows XP PRO (All updates before SP 3)
2008; (All SP) LDT, MAP 3D
2009; Civil 3D, Map 3D, Raster

"tellery" wrote in message news:5984586@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Price is a concern, because now that we are ready to upgrade, we just want
> to upgrade Autocad. But, because our IT guy purchased Inventor Series
> are forced to Upgrade all the Products in the Inventor Series.
>
> To upgrade ACAD 2006 to 2009 ($1500 a seat)
>
> To Upgrade Inventer from 2006 to 2009 ($4000 a seat)
Message 9 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: tellery

You should speak with your Autodesk dealer.

I know there's such a thing as a Crossgrade where you pay Autodesk a price
for going from one software platform, in this case Inventor, to AutoCAD.

Paul

"tellery" wrote in message news:5984586@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Price is a concern, because now that we are ready to upgrade, we just want
> to upgrade Autocad. But, because our IT guy purchased Inventor Series
> are forced to Upgrade all the Products in the Inventor Series.
>
> To upgrade ACAD 2006 to 2009 ($1500 a seat)
>
> To Upgrade Inventer from 2006 to 2009 ($4000 a seat)
Message 10 of 22
tellery
in reply to: tellery

I talked to 2 local resellers they are telling me we cannot do any kind of downgrade or crossgrade.
Message 11 of 22
tellery
in reply to: tellery

The cost to buy Autocad as a new user $3995
Message 12 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: tellery

I asked my reseller this question within the past year or so and I thought
his answer was there was some kind of fee to downgrade back to just autocad.
We had that case around 4 years back they gave us better pricing to go to
the suite than just upgrade acad. I asked the question at the time would it
ever bite us if we wanted to just upgrade the acad in the future, and I
swear the answer was "they will never charge a fee to downgrade"... of
course I didn't get it in writing and even if I did it was just a reseller
not an autodesk employee, who probably has come and gone by now anyway...
In our case we do use the Inventor though. I was always under the
impression the reason they did it was to make Inventor look like more people
were buying it than really were. Kind of like Microsoft with Vista.



"tellery" wrote in message news:5984947@discussion.autodesk.com...
I talked to 2 local resellers they are telling me we cannot do any kind of
downgrade or crossgrade.
Message 13 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: tellery

Call around, there are some resellers that aren't geographically restricted
tell them what your looking for they may be able to help you out.

--

Lance White
CAD Manager

Windows XP PRO (All updates before SP 3)
2008; (All SP) LDT, MAP 3D
2009; Civil 3D, Map 3D, Raster

"tellery" wrote in message news:5984947@discussion.autodesk.com...
> I talked to 2 local resellers they are telling me we cannot do any kind of
> downgrade or crossgrade.
Message 14 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: tellery

I believe that Autodesk has eliminated the Downgrade path in the past couple
years. It was possible a few years back. I just talked to a reseller that
was unaware that the Autodesk policy had changed.

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Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
AIP 2008 SP2, AIP 2009 PcCillin AV
HP zv5000 AMD64 2GB
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185
XP Pro SP2, Windows XP Silver Theme
http://teknigroup.com
wrote in message news:5984993@discussion.autodesk.com...
I asked my reseller this question within the past year or so and I thought
his answer was there was some kind of fee to downgrade back to just autocad.
We had that case around 4 years back they gave us better pricing to go to
the suite than just upgrade acad. I asked the question at the time would it
ever bite us if we wanted to just upgrade the acad in the future, and I
swear the answer was "they will never charge a fee to downgrade"... of
course I didn't get it in writing and even if I did it was just a reseller
not an autodesk employee, who probably has come and gone by now anyway...
In our case we do use the Inventor though. I was always under the
impression the reason they did it was to make Inventor look like more people
were buying it than really were. Kind of like Microsoft with Vista.



"tellery" wrote in message news:5984947@discussion.autodesk.com...
I talked to 2 local resellers they are telling me we cannot do any kind of
downgrade or crossgrade.
Message 15 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: tellery

You bought Inventor, not AutoCAD: your IT was talked into a product you no
longer need. AutoCAD was bundled as a transition tool, not a separate
license. You bought Inventor.

You now have to buy AutoCAD if that is what you want to use: you need to
convince Autodesk direct that you want to move from Inventor to AutoCAD. In
their eyes, you want to upgrade the freebie they threw in and not the
program you actually bought.

Unfair? maybe, but I suspect this was explained in detail to your IT guy
back in the day. Sorry he missed it.

--
Dean
--
Message 16 of 22
tellery
in reply to: tellery

You are correct. We cannot convince Autodesk nor any resellers. So we are forced to start back to square one. Buy a new seat of Autocad. We will the get a new license, but this time we are going to Buy the Subscription (maintenance) and then we will get Autocad Upgrades, etc. automatically.

Not sure why the IT guy got involved in software purchases, but he will no longer buy software for our engineering dept.
Message 17 of 22
RUBE
in reply to: tellery

Why not try inventor? You got it but have yet to try it?
Everything is going 3d sooner or later. Its almost
like buying a house and only living in the garage.
Message 18 of 22
tellery
in reply to: tellery

We already use a powerful 3D Plant Design software that satisfies our needs. It works with Autocad only. Inventor is nice software (we have played around with it). It is not the right software for our company. There are things our plant design software will do that Inventor cannot do yet. Until Autodesk comes out with a Plant Design software that can match the current 3D Plant Design Software we will stay with our current software set up.
Message 19 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: tellery

Yes I have noticed that unless you truly press the reseller for details,
they all make it sound like you are also getting AutoCAD bundled as part of
a continuation of your license. That is not correct, AutoCAD is only thrown
in as a transitional freebie.

Never trust any reseller not willing to spell it out in writing: you will
find most will not.

--
Dean Saadallah
http://LTisACAD.blogspot.com
Add-on products for LT
http://www.pendean.com/lt
--
Message 20 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: tellery

Yes, but that "transitional freebie" has been shipped with the past 9-10
versions as a "Suite". Possibly the OP does not realize that there's a Pro
version on IV for Routed Systems that many "Piping" people are using in
conjuction with their AutoCAD based piping program. They do coexist.....

--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
AIP 2008 SP2, AIP 2009 PcCillin AV
HP zv5000 AMD64 2GB
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185
XP Pro SP2, Windows XP Silver Theme
http://teknigroup.com
"Dean Saadallah" wrote in message
news:5987326@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yes I have noticed that unless you truly press the reseller for details,
they all make it sound like you are also getting AutoCAD bundled as part of
a continuation of your license. That is not correct, AutoCAD is only thrown
in as a transitional freebie.

Never trust any reseller not willing to spell it out in writing: you will
find most will not.

--
Dean Saadallah
http://LTisACAD.blogspot.com
Add-on products for LT
http://www.pendean.com/lt
--

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