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*Gaudette, Peter
Message 1 of 11 (149 Views)

Layer Colors

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02-08-1999 11:44 PM
We have a "standard chart" with all colors defined.
they are grouped by pen numbers from 00 to 4 following the approximate
widths of the ink pens of old. Bear in mind, not everyone can see all
colors as easily as others. with all colors defined, there are ample
choices for individuals to use different lineweights. The separation is by
layer not color. Granted, everyone using exactly the same colors is easier,
but not necessarily practical.

Pete

Kenny Gorman wrote in message <36B1DDC9.D9A6E542@brg.com>...
>We are using AIA layers, does anyone have any ideas about the best way
>to assign colors? Right now we assign the neww layers a brighter hue,
>and the exst and demo dimmer hue's. Does anyone have any other
>practices they use? Then, or course, we map them to a pen for plotting.
>
>Thanks!
>
*Gorman, Kenny
Message 2 of 11 (149 Views)

Re: Layer Colors

02-08-1999 11:44 PM in reply to: *Gaudette, Peter
We are using AIA layers, does anyone have any ideas about the best way
to assign colors? Right now we assign the neww layers a brighter hue,
and the exst and demo dimmer hue's. Does anyone have any other
practices they use? Then, or course, we map them to a pen for plotting.

Thanks!
*Eichenseer, Joe
Message 3 of 11 (149 Views)

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02-08-1999 11:44 PM in reply to: *Gaudette, Peter
At our office, we decided to keep things REALLY simple. Colors 1-9 are solid
pens of decending width (1=thick, 9=thin), colors 11 and 13 are shaded pens
(20% and 40%, I believe) and color 15 is set as a no-plot color. New and
remodel work are separated by layers only. It isn't the best *visual* system
I have ever seen, but then again I have never had a drafter/designer
repeatedly ask anyone about pen assignments or have to refer to an office
manual....

joe

Kenny Gorman wrote in message <36B1DDC9.D9A6E542@brg.com>...
>We are using AIA layers, does anyone have any ideas about the best way
>to assign colors? Right now we assign the neww layers a brighter hue,
>and the exst and demo dimmer hue's. Does anyone have any other
>practices they use? Then, or course, we map them to a pen for plotting.
>
>Thanks!
>
*Collart, Paul
Message 3 of 11 (149 Views)

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02-08-1999 11:44 PM in reply to: *Gaudette, Peter
Kenny ... how's it going?

You might want to check out this web site ... it shows a draft of the
National Cadd Plotting Standards ... but I don't know if I agree with this!?
Let me know what you think!

http://www.uscg.mil/mlclant/cetc/plotstan.htm

Paul Collart

Kenny Gorman wrote in message <36B1DDC9.D9A6E542@brg.com>...
>We are using AIA layers, does anyone have any ideas about the best way
>to assign colors? Right now we assign the neww layers a brighter hue,
>and the exst and demo dimmer hue's. Does anyone have any other
>practices they use? Then, or course, we map them to a pen for plotting.
>
>Thanks!
>
*Filkins, Clive
Message 3 of 11 (149 Views)

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02-08-1999 11:44 PM in reply to: *Gaudette, Peter
Kenny,

We found the need to set at least two colors to each pen size (plotted line
width) to be able to work creatively. Started out using the old pen top
colors & stayed with them. Those who now have never worked on a board may
not see any logic in these - but a place to start.

Also we use the 8 & 9 gray colors for dims & background stuff, & they still
print out on the bubble jet.

Now layers ..............

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Filkins Design Drafting Pty Ltd
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*Gorman, Kenny
Message 6 of 11 (149 Views)

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02-08-1999 11:44 PM in reply to: *Gaudette, Peter


The plot standard seems resonable....  It's hard when everyone wants
things 'the way we have done it for years'.  Ya know.

The CETC standard does not really address the 'visual' aspect of the
colors on-screen to match the 'disposition' (new, existing, or to be demolished)
of the layer.  Do you think that is over-doing it???

 

 

Paul Collart wrote:

Kenny ... how's it going?

You might want to check out this web site ... it shows a draft of the

National Cadd Plotting Standards ... but I don't know if I agree with
this!?

Let me know what you think!

http://www.uscg.mil/mlclant/cetc/plotstan.htm

Paul Collart

Kenny Gorman wrote in message <36B1DDC9.D9A6E542@brg.com>...

>We are using AIA layers, does anyone have any ideas about the best
way

>to assign colors?  Right now we assign the neww layers a brighter
hue,

>and the exst and demo dimmer hue's.  Does anyone have any other

>practices they use?  Then, or course, we map them to a pen for
plotting.

>

>Thanks!

>


*NateM
Message 7 of 11 (149 Views)

Re: Layer Colors

11-01-2002 12:22 AM in reply to: *Gaudette, Peter
My office has a standards team that we have placed to establish a better set
a cad standards. The biggest disagreement that we have is the colors of
layers. We have one side that states we need to have 30 to 50 colors, so
that no two layers will have the same color when looking at the drawing on
the screen. This means that a standard pen weight of .25mm would have 6 to
8 colors that all reference the same pen weight. On the other hand, we have
one side that states that there only needs to be 10 to 15 colors and
anything over starts to get confusing for the basic drafter. I personally
have not found anyone that prefers the first system, so I not convinced that
it's really necessary. Can I please receive your guys and gals opinions.

Thanks
*Vandawalker, Gary
Message 8 of 11 (149 Views)

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11-01-2002 01:02 AM in reply to: *Gaudette, Peter
FWIW (for what it's worth),

Our CADD Committee has decided to allow any color to be used by the
operator. The main reson for this is the concern for those of us who are
color blind to some colors, and also the eye fatique that can be experienced
when viewing certain colors for long periods of time on the screen. Our
users are also free to choose their own screen color. We use named plot
styles which are not effected by screen color when plotting. I do stick
with certain colors (of my choice) for the drawings I crate for myself, or
as standard drawings to be used in New York, but operators are still free to
alter those colors if they desire. We, of course, may not have the need of
other agencies and companies to have stringent standrads when it comes to
colors.

Gary


"NateM" wrote in message
news:0E3598AC05A507D6E022EEAD32454198@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> My office has a standards team that we have placed to establish a better
set
> a cad standards. The biggest disagreement that we have is the colors of
> layers. We have one side that states we need to have 30 to 50 colors, so
> that no two layers will have the same color when looking at the drawing on
> the screen. This means that a standard pen weight of .25mm would have 6
to
> 8 colors that all reference the same pen weight. On the other hand, we
have
> one side that states that there only needs to be 10 to 15 colors and
> anything over starts to get confusing for the basic drafter. I personally
> have not found anyone that prefers the first system, so I not convinced
that
> it's really necessary. Can I please receive your guys and gals opinions.
>
> Thanks
>
>
*Thorne, Brian
Message 9 of 11 (149 Views)

Re:

11-01-2002 03:49 AM in reply to: *Gaudette, Peter
Our company uses CTB plot styles and have 250+ standard layers that have
colors assigned to them based we want them presented. We use at least 40
different colors and have no issues. These are our standards and as long as
they are enforced, there are no problems. We've taken guess work out of
layering, colors and linetypes so that our CAD operators don't have to spend
a lot of time pondering the issue of what to use (layer color, linetype
flavor of the week, anyone ever have that problem?). A couple of benefits
are that new employees work from a standard rather than a "free-for-all" and
second, if anybody else in the company has to work on someone else's project
drawings, they know what to expect.

My 2 cents.

Brian



"NateM" wrote in message
news:0E3598AC05A507D6E022EEAD32454198@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> My office has a standards team that we have placed to establish a better
set
> a cad standards. The biggest disagreement that we have is the colors of
> layers. We have one side that states we need to have 30 to 50 colors, so
> that no two layers will have the same color when looking at the drawing on
> the screen. This means that a standard pen weight of .25mm would have 6
to
> 8 colors that all reference the same pen weight. On the other hand, we
have
> one side that states that there only needs to be 10 to 15 colors and
> anything over starts to get confusing for the basic drafter. I personally
> have not found anyone that prefers the first system, so I not convinced
that
> it's really necessary. Can I please receive your guys and gals opinions.
>
> Thanks
>
>
*Friedrich, Peter
Message 10 of 11 (149 Views)

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11-01-2002 04:03 AM in reply to: *Gaudette, Peter
I've developed standards for several companies---
#1 - I prefer colors that designate the 'system' being drawn (think of paint
markings for excavations!)

#2 - Now-- limit yourself to maybe 60 - and don't use (example:smileyhappy:
70,80,90,100 as parts of one system (example: supply, return air)
Stick to the '0's and the 1's - that's 50... then pick a few more that work
for you.

Given a layer definition that include lineweight, WHO CARES what the color
is- (as long as you follow #1)
Any special plot requirements- Push a new lineweight &/or linetype onto
the object... leave it's layer & color Alone!

Now -- turn off the reflected ceiling--- simple!
And good luck getting them to make peace-- my best luck has been with those
who know next-to-nothing about CAD!


"NateM" wrote in message
news:0E3598AC05A507D6E022EEAD32454198@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> My office has a standards team that we have placed to establish a better
set
> a cad standards. The biggest disagreement that we have is the colors of
> layers. We have one side that states we need to have 30 to 50 colors, so
> that no two layers will have the same color when looking at the drawing on
> the screen. This means that a standard pen weight of .25mm would have 6
to
> 8 colors that all reference the same pen weight. On the other hand, we
have
> one side that states that there only needs to be 10 to 15 colors and
> anything over starts to get confusing for the basic drafter. I personally
> have not found anyone that prefers the first system, so I not convinced
that
> it's really necessary. Can I please receive your guys and gals opinions.
>
> Thanks
>
>
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