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*cad user
Message 51 of 81 (156 Views)

Re: How many peeps per Cad Manager?

02-17-2006 04:13 AM in reply to: *Janitorial Staff
So you're an IT guy, not a CAD manager.

"A Cote" wrote in message
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I manage 16 peeps their pc's, laptop's, plotters, printers, misc devices, 2
servers, backups, all software, standards, archives, supplies, e-mail, FTP,
remote access, anti-virus, anti-spam, training, 79Gig of data and counting,
62,457 files and counting in 6,144 folders and counting. If you think that
this kind of stuff does not need to be managed you are nuts. And that is
only our dept.. I do not deal with the other 11 servers etc... Oh by the
way I don't do windows.





"cad user" wrote in message
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That's my point, there really is no justification for a CAD manager in most
companies.
The layers were compiled over the years until all the users were happy with
what was being used. No need for updating. If you need to add a misc.
layer, then do it.
Why in the world would anybody need training on using layers? If you
accomplished an engineering degree, we think you can read.

"kemp" wrote in message
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Who trains you to use the layer system? Who put it into place? Who
maintains it (There is no system that never needs updating)?

Or does your company use a system that came from the heavens one day,
after years of wandering the desert, stamped on golden tablets that all
90 cad users miraculously instantly understand.

From what I've read so far it sounds like your IT Manager IS your CAD
Manager.

cad user wrote:
> There is a layer system setup and we use it, not that difficult. The 1 IT
> person manages all the software and hardware. Problems are extremely
> rare.
>
> "kemp" wrote in message
> news:5088586@discussion.autodesk.com...
> So who do the majority of people run to when they are having a problem
> with cad? Who sets up standards or does everyone just draw at their own
> whim creating random layers as they go?
>
> Whoever this person (or people) is would be your cad manager - just with
> no title.
>
> cad user wrote:
>> 90 people here, no CAD manager at all. Smoothest operation ever worked
>> in.
>> Also, nobody has a title here.
>>
>> "Janitorial Staff" wrote in message
>> news:5088437@discussion.autodesk.com...
>> How many people do you, as a Cad Manager.....support?
>> What is a typical ratio?
>> Me? 75 +/-
*melanie stone
Message 52 of 81 (156 Views)

Re: How many peeps per Cad Manager?

02-17-2006 05:27 AM in reply to: *Janitorial Staff
~ring, ring~
hello? kettle? this is the pot.
you're black!
~click~

"cad user" wrote in message
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wow, you have a lot of issues. You need to get rid of all your hatred.
You're just spewing nonsense.
*A Cote
Message 53 of 81 (156 Views)

Re: How many peeps per Cad Manager?

02-17-2006 07:00 AM in reply to: *Janitorial Staff
I think a CAD Manager needs to know all the basics to recognize potential
problems and have the true IT guys do their work.


"cad user" wrote in message
news:5089321@discussion.autodesk.com...
So you're an IT guy, not a CAD manager.

"A Cote" wrote in message
news:5088840@discussion.autodesk.com...


I manage 16 peeps their pc's, laptop's, plotters, printers, misc devices, 2
servers, backups, all software, standards, archives, supplies, e-mail, FTP,
remote access, anti-virus, anti-spam, training, 79Gig of data and counting,
62,457 files and counting in 6,144 folders and counting. If you think that
this kind of stuff does not need to be managed you are nuts. And that is
only our dept.. I do not deal with the other 11 servers etc... Oh by the
way I don't do windows.





"cad user" wrote in message
news:5088621@discussion.autodesk.com...
That's my point, there really is no justification for a CAD manager in most
companies.
The layers were compiled over the years until all the users were happy with
what was being used. No need for updating. If you need to add a misc.
layer, then do it.
Why in the world would anybody need training on using layers? If you
accomplished an engineering degree, we think you can read.

"kemp" wrote in message
news:5088594@discussion.autodesk.com...
Who trains you to use the layer system? Who put it into place? Who
maintains it (There is no system that never needs updating)?

Or does your company use a system that came from the heavens one day,
after years of wandering the desert, stamped on golden tablets that all
90 cad users miraculously instantly understand.

From what I've read so far it sounds like your IT Manager IS your CAD
Manager.

cad user wrote:
> There is a layer system setup and we use it, not that difficult. The 1 IT
> person manages all the software and hardware. Problems are extremely
> rare.
>
> "kemp" wrote in message
> news:5088586@discussion.autodesk.com...
> So who do the majority of people run to when they are having a problem
> with cad? Who sets up standards or does everyone just draw at their own
> whim creating random layers as they go?
>
> Whoever this person (or people) is would be your cad manager - just with
> no title.
>
> cad user wrote:
>> 90 people here, no CAD manager at all. Smoothest operation ever worked
>> in.
>> Also, nobody has a title here.
>>
>> "Janitorial Staff" wrote in message
>> news:5088437@discussion.autodesk.com...
>> How many people do you, as a Cad Manager.....support?
>> What is a typical ratio?
>> Me? 75 +/-
*JvD
Message 54 of 81 (156 Views)

Re: How many peeps per Cad Manager?

02-17-2006 08:30 AM in reply to: *Janitorial Staff
NO. You said you "aren't" one unless you know how to program.


"cad user" wrote in message
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"should be", yes

"JvD" wrote in message
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"cad user" wrote
Insane would be to try and make your employees work like robots. Every job
is different and many things are non-typical.

Aren't you the one who says that to be a CAD Manager you have to be a
programmer?
*Ric Hammond
Message 55 of 81 (156 Views)

Re: How many peeps per Cad Manager?

02-17-2006 08:36 AM in reply to: *Janitorial Staff
Can we all not respond to the troll "cad user". By not responding he just
may crawl back under his bridge.

You know a coward if they don't use their real name.

"Janitorial Staff" wrote in message
news:5088437@discussion.autodesk.com...
How many people do you, as a Cad Manager.....support?
What is a typical ratio?
Me? 75 +/-
*cad user
Message 56 of 81 (156 Views)

Re: How many peeps per Cad Manager?

02-17-2006 08:48 AM in reply to: *Janitorial Staff
You're pretty witty with those insults. Why must you hurt my feelings. I'm
a human being.
Anonymity is our right.

"Ric Hammond" wrote in message
news:5089686@discussion.autodesk.com...
Can we all not respond to the troll "cad user". By not responding he just
may crawl back under his bridge.

You know a coward if they don't use their real name.

"Janitorial Staff" wrote in message
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How many people do you, as a Cad Manager.....support?
What is a typical ratio?
Me? 75 +/-
*Harvey
Message 57 of 81 (156 Views)

Re: How many peeps per Cad Manager?

02-17-2006 09:54 AM in reply to: *Janitorial Staff
I'm just guessing of course, but could it be that "coherent thought"
isn't your native language?

Harvey

> You're pretty witty with those insults. Why must you hurt my feelings. I'm
> a human being.
> Anonymity is our right.
*James Wedding
Message 58 of 81 (156 Views)

Re: How many peeps per Cad Manager?

02-17-2006 09:56 AM in reply to: *Janitorial Staff
And I assume you think being in this group is a right as well?

Would someone please ban cad user? I know
he'll pop up under another name, but at least we could have a short respite.

--
James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
Civil 3D 2006 SP2
XP Tablet, SP2, 2GHz, 1.5G
www.eng-eff.com
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*David Allen
Message 59 of 81 (156 Views)

Re: How many peeps per Cad Manager?

02-17-2006 11:33 AM in reply to: *Janitorial Staff
Agreed
Last company I was the CAD/IT Manager for 50 staff& 30 cad people in 4
offices. I did it all.
At my current company I only do CAD management for 50 autocad users. There
is a local
IT guy who only handles everything thats not CAD or high level server stuff.
We have a corporate
WAN/LAN/Firewall/Exchange/Backup/Helpdesk/Application team that does all the
heavy lifting.
But there is no real corporate cad support. The users we begging management
to hire a cad
manager because they did not get any help. We do all the AEC deciplines and
have a wide
range of abilities. Everyone supporting themselves is how we got into our
current mess.

Cad User is full of it if he things people do not need a cad manager or a
central person to deal
with cad related issues & training. Even though we use the NCS layering
system there is still
layering issues. Don't ask me why but issues exist. With the high turnover
in this industry you
will always have users who are not experienced or do not care and so you
need someone to
organize and help out.

--
Dave

"Doug Bowers" wrote in message
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There are so many variations on CAD Manager roles throughout the industry
that it is hard to nail down support levels. It also depends on the
complexity of the processes for the company and the experience level among
employees. When most employees have been with a company for quite some
time, the support time required for them should go down. When a company is
growing or has a high turnover rate, it will take more time for CAD support.

At my company, we have 200+ CAD users with most of them using it for the
majority of their job.

I am the only full-time CAD person and oversee CAD throughout 13 nationwide
offices.
Each office has a part-time CAD Coordinator who handles CAD issues in the
local offices, which includes training new employees in our methodologies
and teaching them ADT if they don't already know it. The regional CAD
Coordinators also do production work, with the amount of CAD support time
varying between offices. Office sizes vary from 12 to 40 CAD users, so the
larger offices have more time spent by the CAD Coordinator in supporting
CAD.

Local CAD Coordinators are not responsible for programming or customization,
although they do help out with it if they have the capability.

We also have a full-time I.T. staff of 3 that take care of the networking
and computer issues, along with the web factor and other software packages
such as MS Office and the Adobe products. 3 of the CAD Coordinators also do
major I.T. support as well, and the other CAD Coordinators in the smaller
offices take care of minor I.T. issues. We have nearly 300 employees total.

--
Douglas Bowers, AIA
Director of CAD Technology
Autodesk Architectural Desktop Certified Expert
Bloodgood Sharp Buster Architects and Planners
*David Allen
Message 60 of 81 (156 Views)

Re: How many peeps per Cad Manager?

02-17-2006 11:34 AM in reply to: *Janitorial Staff
just kill filter his nic in your newsreader

--
Dave

"James Wedding" wrote in message
news:5089818@discussion.autodesk.com...
And I assume you think being in this group is a right as well?

Would someone please ban cad user? I know
he'll pop up under another name, but at least we could have a short respite.

--
James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
Civil 3D 2006 SP2
XP Tablet, SP2, 2GHz, 1.5G
www.eng-eff.com
www.civil3d.com

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