File Naming

[Anonymous]

Seems that long ago, back when King Arthor established the
Knights-Of-The-Cad-Table and lovely wenches serves warm ale in wooden
flasks, Talk included that of Long file names and proper naming convention.
With the advent of 2005 and/or 2006, can anyone tell me if this is much of
an issue anymore? Besides the obvious disadvantage of having to type it in
or similar usage, is there any reasons to NOT use long file (drawing) names
or to place (dashes) or (underscores) in file names?

Free donkey rides and mutton to the first dozen replies.....

[Anonymous]

In these days of point and click, who types anymore?

Unless the firm has a Legend to hand out to the new hires, name them what
they are.

I haven't had mutton in years - my mouth is watering. Mmmm-mmmmm-mmmmm!

My legs are a tad long for the donkey.

Got a mule?

And since the reference to mutton and donkeys was in the OP, I'm safe still.
:-)

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"Meatball" wrote in message
news:4920040@discussion.autodesk.com...
Seems that long ago, back when King Arthor established the
Knights-Of-The-Cad-Table and lovely wenches serves warm ale in wooden
flasks, Talk included that of Long file names and proper naming convention.
With the advent of 2005 and/or 2006, can anyone tell me if this is much of
an issue anymore? Besides the obvious disadvantage of having to type it in
or similar usage, is there any reasons to NOT use long file (drawing) names
or to place (dashes) or (underscores) in file names?

Free donkey rides and mutton to the first dozen replies.....

[Anonymous]

as long as if fits in the titleblock...........

"Meatball" wrote in message
news:4920040@discussion.autodesk.com...
Seems that long ago, back when King Arthor established the
Knights-Of-The-Cad-Table and lovely wenches serves warm ale in wooden
flasks, Talk included that of Long file names and proper naming convention.
With the advent of 2005 and/or 2006, can anyone tell me if this is much of
an issue anymore? Besides the obvious disadvantage of having to type it in
or similar usage, is there any reasons to NOT use long file (drawing) names
or to place (dashes) or (underscores) in file names?

Free donkey rides and mutton to the first dozen replies.....

[Anonymous]

the only thing that comes to mind is when plotting...there was some issue
(checkout the print-plot newsgroup) with some of the hp stuff.....may have
been driver issues

Paul


"Meatball" wrote in message
news:4920040@discussion.autodesk.com...
Seems that long ago, back when King Arthor established the
Knights-Of-The-Cad-Table and lovely wenches serves warm ale in wooden
flasks, Talk included that of Long file names and proper naming convention.
With the advent of 2005 and/or 2006, can anyone tell me if this is much of
an issue anymore? Besides the obvious disadvantage of having to type it in
or similar usage, is there any reasons to NOT use long file (drawing) names
or to place (dashes) or (underscores) in file names?

Free donkey rides and mutton to the first dozen replies.....

[Anonymous]

If you ever want to burn the project folders to CD-ROM, I believe there is a
path/filename limitation. However, I'm not sure what it is.

I was truly anticipating the National CAD Standard v3 to adopt a longer
model file naming convention; something more akin to their layer naming
convention, ala: A-Elev-Bldg-West, A-Plan-Site, A-Sect-Bldg-01

This could be quite useful for naming and properly ordering plans:

A-Plan-Flor-00-01-Bsmt Basement Floor (Sublevel)
A-Plan-Flor-00-02-Grnd Ground Floor (Sublevel)
A-Plan-Flor-01-00-Frst First Floor Plan
A-Plan-Flor-01-50-Mzne Mezzanine Plan
A-Plan-Flor-02-00-Scnd Second Floor Plan
A-Plan-Flor-03-00-Roof Roof Plan

Maybe they thought BIM models were going to take over, and this was a matter
not worth pursuing.

Jason

"Meatball" wrote in message
news:4920040@discussion.autodesk.com...
Seems that long ago, back when King Arthor established the
Knights-Of-The-Cad-Table and lovely wenches serves warm ale in wooden
flasks, Talk included that of Long file names and proper naming convention.
With the advent of 2005 and/or 2006, can anyone tell me if this is much of
an issue anymore? Besides the obvious disadvantage of having to type it in
or similar usage, is there any reasons to NOT use long file (drawing) names
or to place (dashes) or (underscores) in file names?

Free donkey rides and mutton to the first dozen replies.....

[Anonymous]

I believe that CD limit is 256 characters. It's surprisingly easy to
run up against it, too, especially when people get very verbose with the
file name of a letter. Stuff like, "\Letter to Throckmorton Q
Guildersleeve about the Structural Repairs to His Residence at 1623
Dustcough Boulevard - August 12, 2004.doc" Sheesh!

Charlie

Jason wrote:
> If you ever want to burn the project folders to CD-ROM, I believe there is a
> path/filename limitation. However, I'm not sure what it is.

[Anonymous]

FYI: Information below from my CD burning software indicates that the Joliet
file system limits individual file names to 64 characters, but makes no
mention of total path length. The 256 character limit you noted sounds
familiar though. I've never tried using the UDF format.

· ISO 9660: Select this option if you want to be able to read the CD on
different platforms including DOS, Macintosh, OS/2, Windows, and Unix. Files
and directories recorded to CD based on the ISO 9660 standard must meet the
following (8+3) requirements:

· A file name may not contain more than eight alphanumeric characters and
the underscore symbol [_].
· A file name extension may not contain more than three alphanumeric
characters.
· A directory name may not contain more than eight alphanumeric characters
and the underscore symbol [_].

· Joliet: Select this option if you want to use file names that contain up
to 64 characters in length, including spaces. This is the default option and
is used to record most CDs. Joliet also records the associated DOS-standard
name (8+3 characters) for each file so that the CD may be read on DOS
systems or earlier versions of Windows.

· UDF: Select this option if you want a file system for use with recordable
optical disc technologies, such as DVD. This is especially useful when
burning very large files (greater than 1 GB). The UDF file system allows
greater flexibility than the Joliet or ISO 9660 file system.

Jason

"Charlie Peil" wrote in message
news:4920850@discussion.autodesk.com...
I believe that CD limit is 256 characters. It's surprisingly easy to
run up against it, too, especially when people get very verbose with the
file name of a letter. Stuff like, "\Letter to Throckmorton Q
Guildersleeve about the Structural Repairs to His Residence at 1623
Dustcough Boulevard - August 12, 2004.doc" Sheesh!

Charlie

Jason wrote:
> If you ever want to burn the project folders to CD-ROM, I believe there is
> a
> path/filename limitation. However, I'm not sure what it is.

[Anonymous]

My recollection with exact examples is a bit fuzzy at the moment. But I do
recall running into occassional problems with long file names, particularly
when people used more than one period, in which case a small utility or
infrequently used AutoCAD command might erroneously parse the file name and
stop at the first period encountered, thus truncating the filename and
misinterpreting it. I remember years ago that ATTEXT would goof up in
placing the file where we wanted, because we use project numbers for folder
names that used a period followed by a subnumber code, and the ATTEXT
command tripped up on the period in the name. But as far as I know AutoCAD
commands now handle long files names appropriately. Some custom utilities
that parse file names might not be as robust in their handling of long file
names.

--

Mark McDonough
Sasaki Associates
http://www.sasaki.com

"Meatball" wrote in message
news:4920040@discussion.autodesk.com...
Seems that long ago, back when King Arthor established the
Knights-Of-The-Cad-Table and lovely wenches serves warm ale in wooden
flasks, Talk included that of Long file names and proper naming convention.
With the advent of 2005 and/or 2006, can anyone tell me if this is much of
an issue anymore? Besides the obvious disadvantage of having to type it in
or similar usage, is there any reasons to NOT use long file (drawing) names
or to place (dashes) or (underscores) in file names?

Free donkey rides and mutton to the first dozen replies.....

[Anonymous]

IfTheyUseTitleCaseTheyCanMakeThemEvenMoreVerbose.

Who needs these pesky spaces anyway? 🙂

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Nvidia GeForce2 MX 32MB
Western Digital Raptor 10K-rpm HD


"Charlie Peil" wrote in message
news:4920850@discussion.autodesk.com...
I believe that CD limit is 256 characters. It's surprisingly easy to
run up against it, too, especially when people get very verbose with the
file name of a letter. Stuff like, "\Letter to Throckmorton Q
Guildersleeve about the Structural Repairs to His Residence at 1623
Dustcough Boulevard - August 12, 2004.doc" Sheesh!

Charlie

Jason wrote:
> If you ever want to burn the project folders to CD-ROM, I believe there is
> a
> path/filename limitation. However, I'm not sure what it is.

[Anonymous]

Some second tier products (like LDT - Symbol Manager) have issues with
long(er) file names.

--
Karl Fuls PLS
Autocad AEC Training and Consulting
Autodesk Discussion Group Facilitator


Paul Caruthers wrote:
> the only thing that comes to mind is when plotting...there was some issue
> (checkout the print-plot newsgroup) with some of the hp stuff.....may have
> been driver issues
>
> Paul
>
>

[cprettyman]

Curious, our CD burning software limits us to 110 characters for the total path - but I've never hit a limit ont he individual file name.

The 110 Characters, however, is frequently an issue.