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*Peter, Jeff
Message 1 of 7 (2,933 Views)

Drawing disclaimers

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08-16-1999 06:07 AM
I'm currently investigating options regarding the placement of a "drawing
disclaimer" physically (block insertion) within our CAD files, and I was
wondering how other firms and other organizations were handling the addition
of drawing disclaimers to electronic files in general. While we have a
disclaimer regarding copyrighted material written into our specs, there
doesn't exist one within each electronic file. It would seem that in an
increasingly internet focused collaborative design environment, it would be
important to include some sort of legal disclaimer with electronic files to
complement hard copy disclaimers.

The following is a proposed example:

THIS DOCUMENT CONTAINS CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION THAT CANNOT
BE REPRODUCED OR DIVULGED, IN WHOLE OR IN PART, WITHOUT WRITTEN
AUTHORIZATION FROM "Contact Information"

Sorry about the caps. Just think of it as your legal representative
shouting.

Anyway, I was just curious as to what others were doing.

--
Jeff Peter
CAD Manager
Plunkett Raysich Architects
10850 W. Park Place Suite 300
Milwaukee, WI 53224
Voice:414.359.3060
Fax: 414.359.3070
jpeter@prarch.com
http://www.prarch.com
*Debelius, Brian
Message 2 of 7 (2,933 Views)

Re: Drawing disclaimers

08-16-1999 07:57 AM in reply to: *Peter, Jeff
That is our disclaimer, almost verbatim. Ours is written '...without
authorization in writing from ...'

brian-

Jeff Peter wrote in message
news:7p9k2t$8dq3@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> I'm currently investigating options regarding the placement of a "drawing
> disclaimer" physically (block insertion) within our CAD files, and I was
> wondering how other firms and other organizations were handling the
addition
> of drawing disclaimers to electronic files in general. While we have a
> disclaimer regarding copyrighted material written into our specs, there
> doesn't exist one within each electronic file. It would seem that in an
> increasingly internet focused collaborative design environment, it would
be
> important to include some sort of legal disclaimer with electronic files
to
> complement hard copy disclaimers.
>
> The following is a proposed example:
>
> THIS DOCUMENT CONTAINS CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION THAT
CANNOT
> BE REPRODUCED OR DIVULGED, IN WHOLE OR IN PART, WITHOUT WRITTEN
> AUTHORIZATION FROM "Contact Information"
>
> Sorry about the caps. Just think of it as your legal representative
> shouting.
>
> Anyway, I was just curious as to what others were doing.
>
> --
> Jeff Peter
> CAD Manager
> Plunkett Raysich Architects
> 10850 W. Park Place Suite 300
> Milwaukee, WI 53224
> Voice:414.359.3060
> Fax: 414.359.3070
> jpeter@prarch.com
> http://www.prarch.com
>
>
>
>
>
*Masters, Tom
Message 3 of 7 (2,933 Views)

Re:

08-16-1999 07:57 AM in reply to: *Peter, Jeff
Same as Brian's.

Brian Debelius wrote in message <7p9mvc$8dr11@adesknews2.autodesk.com>...
>That is our disclaimer, almost verbatim. Ours is written '...without
>authorization in writing from ...'
>
>brian-
>
>Jeff Peter wrote in message
>news:7p9k2t$8dq3@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
>> I'm currently investigating options regarding the placement of a "drawing
>> disclaimer" physically (block insertion) within our CAD files, and I was
>> wondering how other firms and other organizations were handling the
>addition
>> of drawing disclaimers to electronic files in general. While we have a
>> disclaimer regarding copyrighted material written into our specs, there
>> doesn't exist one within each electronic file. It would seem that in an
>> increasingly internet focused collaborative design environment, it would
>be
>> important to include some sort of legal disclaimer with electronic files
>to
>> complement hard copy disclaimers.
>>
>> The following is a proposed example:
>>
>> THIS DOCUMENT CONTAINS CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION THAT
>CANNOT
>> BE REPRODUCED OR DIVULGED, IN WHOLE OR IN PART, WITHOUT WRITTEN
>> AUTHORIZATION FROM "Contact Information"
>>
>> Sorry about the caps. Just think of it as your legal representative
>> shouting.
>>
>> Anyway, I was just curious as to what others were doing.
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Peter
>> CAD Manager
>> Plunkett Raysich Architects
>> 10850 W. Park Place Suite 300
>> Milwaukee, WI 53224
>> Voice:414.359.3060
>> Fax: 414.359.3070
>> jpeter@prarch.com
>> http://www.prarch.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
*Carroll Aasen Jr, Highway Design Techni
Message 4 of 7 (2,933 Views)

Re:

08-17-1999 12:59 AM in reply to: *Peter, Jeff
Here is ours. A Bit longer and it was reviewed by a couple Attorney's. I
insert it on a Layer named Dislaimer at a scale to cover the whole drawing.
This way it gets read & turned off before they begin any work:

Notice to the Corporation, Person &/or Persons regarding the Computer Aided
Design and
Drafting (CADD) files enclosed. Acceptance of the CADD data is based on the
following
disclaimer which covers all CADD data received from the [XYZ Corp.]

DISCLAIMER

The [XYZ Corp.] makes no representation or warranties, express or
implied, with respect to the reuse of the data provided herewith, regardless
of its format or the
means of its transmission. There is no guarantee or representation to the
user as to the
accuracy, currency, suitability or reliability of this data for any purpose.
The user accepts the
data "as is", and assumes all risks associated with its use. By acceptance
of this data, the user
agrees not to transmit this data or provide access or any part of it to
another party unless the
user shall include with the data a copy of this disclaimer. The [XYZ Corp.]
assumes no responsibility for actual or consequential damage incurred as a
result
of any user's reliance on this data.

Carroll Aasen, Highway Design Technician
Carver County Public Works.

Tom Masters wrote in message <7p9poi$8dv18@adesknews2.autodesk.com>...
>Same as Brian's.
>
>
>Brian Debelius wrote in message <7p9mvc$8dr11@adesknews2.autodesk.com>...
>>That is our disclaimer, almost verbatim. Ours is written '...without
>>authorization in writing from ...'
>>
>>brian-
>>
>>Jeff Peter wrote in message
>>news:7p9k2t$8dq3@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
>>> I'm currently investigating options regarding the placement of a
"drawing
>>> disclaimer" physically (block insertion) within our CAD files, and I
was
>>> wondering how other firms and other organizations were handling the
>>addition
>>> of drawing disclaimers to electronic files in general. While we have a
>>> disclaimer regarding copyrighted material written into our specs, there
>>> doesn't exist one within each electronic file. It would seem that in an
>>> increasingly internet focused collaborative design environment, it would
>>be
>>> important to include some sort of legal disclaimer with electronic files
>>to
>>> complement hard copy disclaimers.
>>>
>>> The following is a proposed example:
>>>
>>> THIS DOCUMENT CONTAINS CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION THAT
>>CANNOT
>>> BE REPRODUCED OR DIVULGED, IN WHOLE OR IN PART, WITHOUT WRITTEN
>>> AUTHORIZATION FROM "Contact Information"
>>>
>>> Sorry about the caps. Just think of it as your legal representative
>>> shouting.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I was just curious as to what others were doing.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeff Peter
>>> CAD Manager
>>> Plunkett Raysich Architects
>>> 10850 W. Park Place Suite 300
>>> Milwaukee, WI 53224
>>> Voice:414.359.3060
>>> Fax: 414.359.3070
>>> jpeter@prarch.com
>>> http://www.prarch.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
*Jessup, Allen S.
Message 5 of 7 (2,933 Views)

Re:

08-17-1999 03:38 AM in reply to: *Peter, Jeff
Carroll;

You must grow more intelligent Attorney's in Minnesota. I wrote a
disclaimer for the Photogrametric mapping we sell. Since they didn't
understand my references to how the mapping was produced they insisted we
use the same disclaimer that our Planning Dept. uses on the Tax Maps. Which
makes no sense at all!

Allen Jessup
Principal Engineering Tech.
Rockland County Highway Dept

.
Carroll Aasen Jr, Highway Design Technician wrote
in message news:7pbmc6$ad810@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> Here is ours. A Bit longer and it was reviewed by a couple Attorney's. I
> insert it on a Layer named Dislaimer at a scale to cover the whole
drawing.
> This way it gets read & turned off before they begin any work:
>
>
> Notice to the Corporation, Person &/or Persons regarding the Computer
Aided
> Design and
> Drafting (CADD) files enclosed. Acceptance of the CADD data is based on
the
> following
> disclaimer which covers all CADD data received from the [XYZ Corp.]
>
>
> DISCLAIMER
>
> The [XYZ Corp.] makes no representation or warranties, express or
> implied, with respect to the reuse of the data provided herewith,
regardless
> of its format or the
> means of its transmission. There is no guarantee or representation to the
> user as to the
> accuracy, currency, suitability or reliability of this data for any
purpose.
> The user accepts the
> data "as is", and assumes all risks associated with its use. By
acceptance
> of this data, the user
> agrees not to transmit this data or provide access or any part of it to
> another party unless the
> user shall include with the data a copy of this disclaimer. The [XYZ
Corp.]
> assumes no responsibility for actual or consequential damage incurred as a
> result
> of any user's reliance on this data.
>
> Carroll Aasen, Highway Design Technician
> Carver County Public Works.
>
*Yoder, S.
Message 6 of 7 (2,933 Views)

Re:

08-23-1999 10:02 AM in reply to: *Peter, Jeff
My personal favorite is:
"CAD file. Do NOT edit by hand."

I understand it, but it makes one wonder about the circumstances that
brought it about.


Enjoy,
Stef
--
yodersj@ipass.net
http://www.ipass.net/~yodersj/
*Alexander, Alex
Message 7 of 7 (2,933 Views)

Re:

08-24-1999 02:07 AM in reply to: *Peter, Jeff
Lol. I've been wrestling with the disclaimer issue for a while, too. The
one idea I got from this newsgroup that I like is to leave the drawing
zoomed into a view of the disclaimer and include some text such as "By
zooming to extents you agree to the terms of this agreement".

Now to convince the nervous bosses and attorneys.

Alex Alexander
Engineering Systems Coordinator
Smith and Loveless, Inc.
www.smithandloveless.com

S. Yoder wrote in message
news:7psct0$7dq23@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> My personal favorite is:
> "CAD file. Do NOT edit by hand."
>
> I understand it, but it makes one wonder about the circumstances that
> brought it about.
>
>
> Enjoy,
> Stef
> --
> yodersj@ipass.net
> http://www.ipass.net/~yodersj/
>
>
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