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Message 1 of 28
doonz
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Cad Manager

Does anyone know of any good books to learn programming autocad?
james
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Message 2 of 28
skintsubby
in reply to: doonz

Not a book, but this website is pretty useful

http://www.afralisp.net/
Message 3 of 28
doonz
in reply to: doonz

thanks heaps 🙂
Message 4 of 28
doonz
in reply to: doonz

does anyone know if there are any books out there to become a cad manager, i currently know autocad well but want to learn how to customize it
Message 5 of 28
tstright
in reply to: doonz

Being a Cad Manager is much more than just being able to customize...
Message 6 of 28
doonz
in reply to: doonz

could you give me a run down?
Message 7 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz

doonz said the following On 8/31/2006 2:52 AM:
> Does anyone know of any good books to learn programming autocad?
> james

VLisp or VBA?

Vlisp: http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=44532
VBA:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590595793/102-7453971-6684158?v=glance&n=283155

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Message 8 of 28
Tom Smith
in reply to: doonz

This horse has been beat to death a thousand times already, but a "CAD manager" means whatever it means to a a particular company. There is no fixed meaning. It does not have a legal definition, like "doctor" or "architect."

From past discussions, most of the people who participate here are not "managers" at all in the sense that word is normally used. Most of us are the "CAD person" in our particular office, but do not spend most of our time doing that, and do not have any special title to reflect the specialization.

"Manager" usually implies the authority to hire and fire, delegate tasks, cotrol workflow, and so forth -- you manage people. It's not common, at least in my field, for senior managers to be the chief technoids in a firm. The kinds of things that are discussed here are nearly always delegated to people several rungs down the ladder from top management.

The people who "run" their office Acad system often share their thoughts here on how best to organize/manage/systematize their CAD setup. The key difference in this group versus the customization group is that we're talking specifically about multi-user settings, not just one-man personal setups. That's why the rather inappropriate word "manager" is used. In "managing" a complex multi-user Acad setup, there are a number of considerations that wouldn't matter for a single isolated user. That does not in any way imply that everyone participating here is a hiring-and-firing type boss.
Message 9 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz

http://www.theswamp.org/ <--good place to learn.

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Tim
http://tjriley.infogami.com/pyacaddotnet


wrote in message news:5313455@discussion.autodesk.com...
Does anyone know of any good books to learn programming autocad?
james
Message 10 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz

wrote in message news:5313763@discussion.autodesk.com...
could you give me a run down?

Management Tasks

Now that we've qualified the characteristics and qualifications a CAD
manager needs to possess, here's a look at the various functions CAD
managers can be expected to perform in today's workplace. Keep in mind that
not every CAD manager will perform every one of the following tasks, but
most CAD managers will perform most of them at one time or another.

Maintaining Hardware and Software. The most basic function of the CAD
manager is to keep the CAD machines running and to coordinate network
procedures for storage of CAD data. Sometimes these responsibilities can be
shared with a central computer-support department, but the CAD manager must
always take the lead on solving the problems and will always be the
responsible party. In fact, many CAD managers I know could work in
centralized computer-support departments but elect not to because CAD
management keeps them in their design skill area.

Providing Primary CAD Support. CAD managers must be able to answer most of
the questions that will arise on a day-to-day basis. This requires
familiarization with all software platforms in the company and may require
in-depth self-study or training on an ongoing basis.

CAD Standards Formulation. A key job of any CAD department is working with a
company CAD standard or a customer standard. The CAD manager has to take the
lead role in formulating and enforcing CAD standards for layering,
dimensioning, text annotations and information storage. The enforcement of
CAD standards is closely correlated to how effectively the CAD manager
communicates the importance of standards and gets upper-level design or
engineering management to agree to these standards.

Technology Resource Planning. Looking into the future to plan for new
software releases, training and how to make the CAD department more
efficient is an increasingly popular trend in CAD management. CAD managers
are much more likely to be well read and technologically current now than
they were just a few years ago. Remember that planning for resources and new
technology isn't just about being a futurist; you'll need to establish
budgets and cost justifications to back up your recommendations. The best
CAD managers are constantly reading and maintaining folders on interesting
new technologies. You may also find that an annual conference such as
Autodesk University or A/E/C SYSTEMS can assist you with identifying
promising new technology for your CAD department.

Document Management. Increasingly CAD managers are being thrust into
implementing document-management solutions as an extension of the CAD
standards or procedures portion of their job. Proper control of CAD
information to ensure proper revisioning, archiving and perhaps even
Internet access is a rapidly growing part of CAD management.

Staff Management. Sometimes CAD managers are responsible for hiring CAD
drafters and must oversee temporary staff to ensure that CAD projects are
completed on time. In these situations CAD managers have a full-fledged
management job that makes them responsible for anything from scheduling
resources to performing reviews to disciplinary procedures. This is a huge
step up for those undertaking their first management position and should not
be taken lightly.

Staff Training. CAD managers are frequently called upon to orient new
employees or to help existing employees boost their CAD skills. The
forward-thinking CAD manager will devise a training plan that leverages
industry-training books, Internet sites and multimedia training materials to
meet these needs rather than one-on-one tutoring. Staff training can also be
construed as attention to continuous improvement efforts, so existing CAD
users are constantly being challenged to learn new skills and apply them
within the bounds of the company's CAD standards. The CAD manager's approach
to training is crucial because a strong training culture makes adoption of
CAD standards much easier.

More Than Just CAD

As you look through the listing of tasks that CAD managers perform, it
becomes apparent that CAD management isn't just about CAD. Even senior
management will be surprised at the level of communications, priority
management and financial judgment that must be used to run a CAD department.
Senior management can be forgiven for its naiveté because senior managers
typically don't understand how much is involved in keeping complex software
systems controlled and running well.

As the CAD manager, it becomes your responsibility to articulate what you do
and why it is important to the company. The CAD manager assumes the role of
CAD advocate and must be able to explain to any one in upper management what
systems are in use, why they provide value, what the future plan is for
technology adoption and what it will cost. That is a lot of information to
master, and you'll notice it has nothing to do with programming!
Message 11 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz

Anything by Joe Sutphin....VBA side, at least.

Personally I wouldn't recommend lisp, at this point. It definitely has it's
(really) strong points, but you're likely to get much more mileage much
faster out of VBA. (Learn just enough lisp to create a command that calls a
VBA macro.)

(defun C:MYCOMMAND ()
(vl-vbarun "MyMacroName")
)

wrote in message news:5313455@discussion.autodesk.com...
Does anyone know of any good books to learn programming autocad?
james
Message 12 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz

Get a psyche degree. The technical stuff is relatively easy to learn. 😉

wrote in message news:5313763@discussion.autodesk.com...
could you give me a run down?
Message 13 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz

There's also Andrew Roe, whom Laurie Comerford recommended back last year:
http://tinyurl.com/jqncr

And his recommendation of "Using Visual Basic with AutoCAD" was enough to
convince me - Amazon was able to provide me with a nearby location, so I
will be receiving mine within the next 2 weeks sometime. 😉

HTH doonz.

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"TomD" wrote in message
news:5314408@discussion.autodesk.com...
Anything by Joe Sutphin....VBA side, at least.

Personally I wouldn't recommend lisp, at this point. It definitely has it's
(really) strong points, but you're likely to get much more mileage much
faster out of VBA. (Learn just enough lisp to create a command that calls a
VBA macro.)

(defun C:MYCOMMAND ()
(vl-vbarun "MyMacroName")
)

wrote in message news:5313455@discussion.autodesk.com...
Does anyone know of any good books to learn programming autocad?
james
Message 14 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz

This is exactly why I have asked to be referred to as CAD "Administrator",
instead of "manager" at my company... I am still low on the totem pole here
and don't want anyone to think I see myself as above them...

wrote in message news:5314000@discussion.autodesk.com...
This horse has been beat to death a thousand times already, but a "CAD
manager" means whatever it means to a a particular company. There is no
fixed meaning. It does not have a legal definition, like "doctor" or
"architect."

From past discussions, most of the people who participate here are not
"managers" at all in the sense that word is normally used. Most of us are
the "CAD person" in our particular office, but do not spend most of our time
doing that, and do not have any special title to reflect the specialization.

"Manager" usually implies the authority to hire and fire, delegate tasks,
cotrol workflow, and so forth -- you manage people. It's not common, at
least in my field, for senior managers to be the chief technoids in a firm.
The kinds of things that are discussed here are nearly always delegated to
people several rungs down the ladder from top management.

The people who "run" their office Acad system often share their thoughts
here on how best to organize/manage/systematize their CAD setup. The key
difference in this group versus the customization group is that we're
talking specifically about multi-user settings, not just one-man personal
setups. That's why the rather inappropriate word "manager" is used. In
"managing" a complex multi-user Acad setup, there are a number of
considerations that wouldn't matter for a single isolated user. That does
not in any way imply that everyone participating here is a hiring-and-firing
type boss.
Message 15 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:56:06 +0000, Fnorkpickle wrote:

> wrote in message news:5313763@discussion.autodesk.com...
>could you give me a run down?
>
>Management Tasks



The beatings - don't forget the beatings.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com
Message 16 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz

And don't forget to fall down a flight of stairs now and again to improve your attitude.

John Postlewait
IS Department
George Butler Associates, Inc.
Message 17 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz


WOW, I need a bigger raise this year!

 

7% doesn't seem nearly good enough!

 




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Message 18 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz

jpostlewait wrote:
> And don't forget to fall down a flight of stairs now and again to improve your attitude.


Floggings shall continue until morale improves 😉


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Civil 3D 2007, SP2
Dell Precision M70
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Intel Centrino 2 gHz Processor

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Message 19 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: doonz

~shifty eyes~~slowlybackingawayfromkeyboard~

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***not all who wander are lost***
http://mistressofthedorkness.blogspot.com/
"Jason Hickey" wrote in message
news:5318507@discussion.autodesk.com...
jpostlewait wrote:
> And don't forget to fall down a flight of stairs now and again to improve
> your attitude.


Floggings shall continue until morale improves 😉


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Jason Hickey

Civil 3D 2007, SP2
Dell Precision M70
2 GIG RAM, 256 MB nVidia Quadro FX Go1400
Intel Centrino 2 gHz Processor

www.civil3d.com
Message 20 of 28
LeahS1
in reply to: doonz

must follow proceedures or else
tar and feather.......
honey and ant hill....
(open for more suggestions)

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