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CAD Manager; What do you Really do?

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Message 1 of 23
rdmaliksi
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CAD Manager; What do you Really do?

Hi guys... Not a CAD manager yet... sorry to bug in on your Group. Though i got a fair share of exposure to the world of CADD for the past 11 years... Just wanderin what does a CAD manager really do on your company... im a little confused about something... cant just budge it out here cause someone might be reading...could anybody send me a description on what should be dealt by a CAD Manager? his duties and responsibilities...not gonna steal your job or anything...just wanna have an idea.

Thanks and More power to you guys...

rdmaliksi
rdm316@yahoo.com
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Message 2 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

There are a number of administrative tasks that come along in a multi-seat environment that someone has to pick up.
License management, License server management, Reseller selection, Support request coordinator, Building deployment sites, Deciding on product configurations, Dealing with the upgrade cycle, The list goes on.
Regardless of the title someone has to do this stuff.
The Origin of the Cad Manager position came early on in the use of CAD. Some organizations appointed someone to manage the operators and schedule the work for those doing computer DRAFTING. The good ones in that group soon took up creating lisp routines and other customization work to more automate the creation of drawings.
Some companies use this model and some don't.
No matter how many knives are in the drawer there are a few who are the sharpest. From that bunch comes the Cad Manager, titled or not.
Message 3 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

as cad mangler i'm entitled to 40 hmmms a day..

This means i frequently pause, watch a user abuse autocad, then say 'hmmm'

PJ


wrote in message news:5560409@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi guys... Not a CAD manager yet... sorry to bug in on your Group. Though i
got a fair share of exposure to the world of CADD for the past 11 years...
Just wanderin what does a CAD manager really do on your company... im a
little confused about something... cant just budge it out here cause someone
might be reading...could anybody send me a description on what should be
dealt by a CAD Manager? his duties and responsibilities...not gonna steal
your job or anything...just wanna have an idea.

Thanks and More power to you guys...

rdmaliksi
rdm316@yahoo.com
Message 4 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

There's this resource as well for you to use also rdmaliksi:
http://management.cadalyst.com/Column%3A+CAD+Manager

Robert Green's got some good data to share in these regards.

John's start-off list shows you how much there is for you to be aware of,
and he just scratched the surface as it were.

And I'm still chuckling over PJ's rather "adroit" response.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=adroit
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"Princess Jamie" wrote in message
news:5560443@discussion.autodesk.com...
as cad mangler i'm entitled to 40 hmmms a day..

This means i frequently pause, watch a user abuse autocad, then say 'hmmm'

PJ


wrote in message news:5560409@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi guys... Not a CAD manager yet... sorry to bug in on your Group. Though i
got a fair share of exposure to the world of CADD for the past 11 years...
Just wanderin what does a CAD manager really do on your company... im a
little confused about something... cant just budge it out here cause someone
might be reading...could anybody send me a description on what should be
dealt by a CAD Manager? his duties and responsibilities...not gonna steal
your job or anything...just wanna have an idea.

Thanks and More power to you guys...

rdmaliksi
rdm316@yahoo.com
Message 5 of 23
rdmaliksi
in reply to: rdmaliksi

thanks so much guys...i'm asking these questions cause i'm aiming for that position in my present job. Our current CAD manager just performs administrative works but no deep understanding of CAD. if fact, i believe he dont even know how to use it. Its a really difficult task. but seems that as of the moment, the only thing that i'm missing is the title and the pay...but mostly doing the job like customization, production of CAD manual, figuring out techniques on how to speed up production and even training...

again thanks for the inputs...
Message 6 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

Some cad manager duties include:
-CAD software installs, network deployment images (mapping support paths,
customize content on network shared location)
-Install and configure 3rd party tools
-Customizations (including PGP file, profiles, tool palettes, lisp, arx,
etc)
-Evaluate and install service pack updates
-Define templates and standard, custom menus (fonts, layouts, LKS,
dimstyles, text styles, etc)
-Configure printers and plotters. Create p3c for each for consistent
plotting. (include calibrating plotter and tweak printable margins)
-Define CTB or STB for each standard
-Educate users via, in house training and meetings. Inform of new features
and how to use.
-CAD Manual, define and keep updated.
- Software licensing
- Software troubleshooting and user assistance (user screwed up her menus,
how do you do this, etc.)
- Hardware evaluation and purchasing.


wrote in message news:5560409@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi guys... Not a CAD manager yet... sorry to bug in on your Group. Though i
got a fair share of exposure to the world of CADD for the past 11 years...
Just wanderin what does a CAD manager really do on your company... im a
little confused about something... cant just budge it out here cause someone
might be reading...could anybody send me a description on what should be
dealt by a CAD Manager? his duties and responsibilities...not gonna steal
your job or anything...just wanna have an idea.

Thanks and More power to you guys...

rdmaliksi
rdm316@yahoo.com
Message 7 of 23
Tom Smith
in reply to: rdmaliksi

Take all answers with a grain of salt. The term means whatever your employer thinks it means, or whatever change of meaning you negotiate with them. There is no established meaning for the term, and I've often thought that this NG is poorly named.

My observation over the years is that most of the participants here are not "managers" at all, in the normal sense of the word. IOW they don't hire, fire, assign tasks, or handle personnel issues -- they aren't members of management. They just happen to be the person in the firm most willing and able to handle the design and maintenance of the CAD system, and (usually) train and help the users.

In most cases the "CAD person" is a technical type -- that is, a drafter/designer who is doing billable work most of the time. But they happen to have this extra specialty in addition to their regular duties. My job title, for instance, Is Senior Architect. I'm not a manager. I have several special "overhead" type responsibilities, besides doing the same bilable work as our designer/drafters. The CAD thing is only one of my roles, and not the biggest one. I don't get any special title out of being the CAD guy. Supporting one or two dozen CAD stations takes maybe 10% of my time over the course of a year, less if there's no version change that year.

It's very uncommon, in my observation, for an actual departmental manager to be the real "CAD dude." They have too many other responsibilities to handle if they're responsible for a whole group of people. If you think you can boot your manager out and take his job, go for it. But I doubt that you''ll be doing any more CAD-geek stuff than he does, once you've stolen that job.

Your best bet might be to sell yourself as a "CAD specialist" and wrangle for a pay raise or bonuses based on your record of production improvements. Or go somewhere else with your dog and pony show. Most people don't substantially improve themselves or change career tracks without changing jobs.
Message 8 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

Well, my title is CAD Manager/Network Admin. On the CAD side my job involves license management, testing and deploying new versions of AutoCAD, trouble shooting AutoCAD problems, setting up printers and plotters, etc. On the Network Admin. side I handle all of our information system assets, networking, security, etc. The CAD manager duties are whatever you have negotiated with your bosses. For example, I cannot hire or fire employess...but I do participate in the termination in an indirect way. The only CAD work I do now is testing the new versions of AutoCAD. Also as a CAD Manager part of your job is to work with less experienced persons. You need to be able to communicate without making the other person feel like you are running them down. The position is different and unique to each company that uses or has a CAD Manager.

Tom
Message 9 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

Lets call those cad administrator duties.
A cad manager would also oversee the workload and staffing of projects, etc.

"F. Gump" wrote in message
news:5561077@discussion.autodesk.com...
Some cad manager duties include:
-CAD software installs, network deployment images (mapping support paths,
customize content on network shared location)
-Install and configure 3rd party tools
-Customizations (including PGP file, profiles, tool palettes, lisp, arx,
etc)
-Evaluate and install service pack updates
-Define templates and standard, custom menus (fonts, layouts, LKS,
dimstyles, text styles, etc)
-Configure printers and plotters. Create p3c for each for consistent
plotting. (include calibrating plotter and tweak printable margins)
-Define CTB or STB for each standard
-Educate users via, in house training and meetings. Inform of new features
and how to use.
-CAD Manual, define and keep updated.
- Software licensing
- Software troubleshooting and user assistance (user screwed up her menus,
how do you do this, etc.)
- Hardware evaluation and purchasing.


wrote in message news:5560409@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi guys... Not a CAD manager yet... sorry to bug in on your Group. Though i
got a fair share of exposure to the world of CADD for the past 11 years...
Just wanderin what does a CAD manager really do on your company... im a
little confused about something... cant just budge it out here cause someone
might be reading...could anybody send me a description on what should be
dealt by a CAD Manager? his duties and responsibilities...not gonna steal
your job or anything...just wanna have an idea.

Thanks and More power to you guys...

rdmaliksi
rdm316@yahoo.com
Message 10 of 23
Zuccus
in reply to: rdmaliksi

I am going to agree with Tom Smith Here, CAD manager is really what ever your boss thinks it means.

Although my technical title is drafting manager, I am trying to get it changed to design manager because this is more a true reflection of my duties. I am consider upper management, I hire/fire to support my needs, and I am responsible for all of the designs that are produced by my group. I also keep with up all of the standard product designs. When the work gets deep I step in and help the people who work for me on their designs and detail drawings. I am always sitting in on sales meetings with clients, etc.

The CAD Manager part is also roughly only 10% of my time on any given week. I came through the ranks of being the guy who always new more about AutoCAD then anybody else at the office. Frankly I don't keep up with all of the latest and greatest features of AutoCAD anymore. With the power of the internet I find the features that best fit what my department needs roll them out and move on.

Frankly, I never understood how a cad manger only dealt with supporting CAD issues. What do you do the other 30+ hours a week? Then again, I only have 8 people working for me. I am sure some of you guys may have hundreds.

Zuccus
Message 11 of 23
KyleDasan
in reply to: rdmaliksi

Here is what I do, as defined in my "Official Job Description" Some of this falls under the heading of "I.T."

Job Summary: Maintains, provides user support, and oversees all aspects of the Computer-Aided Drafting operations, including full authority and responsibility for allocation of budgeted funds. Working closely with architects, management, support staff and outside vendors, is basically responsible for seeing that all computer operations in the firm are performed in a timely and professional manner.

Major Responsibilities:
1. Develops CAD policies, procedures, and guidelines: programs system; designs develops, and assembles CAD Manuals; coordinates policies for teams such as system layout, file naming and work procedures, communicates polices to staff; updates procedures as necessary; reviews adherence to policies and procedures and informs of deviations from company standards; assesses problems and recommends solutions to CAD related issues.

2. Trains personnel on CAD tasks: performs initial CAD training for new staff; provides ongoing assistance and guidance; designs individualized training to meet employee specific needs; conducts refresher training sessions; assists with performance evaluations on issues related to CAD activities. Writes and maintains training documentation.

3. Coordinates CAD-related activities with consultants: informs others of policy, procedure and menu changes; moderates disputes when information between layers creates problems; participates in CAD-related decisions; recommends solutions to problems; assists with CAD problems and questions.

4. Conducts CAD meetings: meets with team representatives; discusses how things need to be done on the computer; works out potential solutions and reviews applicability; discusses efficiency, potential step reductions and procedure modifications; prioritizes concerns; summarizes meeting minutes and distributes.
5. Assists with budgeting; reviews and negotiates software license agreements.

6. Review network and systems diagnostics.

7. Coordinates and performs CAD systems maintenance: determines need for hardware maintenance; set up work stations.

8. Maintains all computer hardware and software in office. This includes servers, workstations, personal computers and plotter, printers, copiers and phone system. Maintain local area network and communication equipment.

9. Investigates options for future upgrades: plans for future CAD stations and network expansions; remains up-to-date with technical advances by reading necessary technical magazines; tests new versions of the CAD software.

10. Maintains system backup tapes and archive CD-ROM’s of files removed from the server.

11. Maintains full knowledge of system’s capacity and operating features.
Message 12 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

Sounds familiar, although we don't have it written down...
future reference>

wrote in message news:5561514@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here is what I do, as defined in my "Official Job Description" Some of this
falls under the heading of "I.T."

Job Summary: Maintains, provides user support, and oversees all aspects of
the Computer-Aided Drafting operations, including full authority and
responsibility for allocation of budgeted funds. Working closely with
architects, management, support staff and outside vendors, is basically
responsible for seeing that all computer operations in the firm are
performed in a timely and professional manner.

Major Responsibilities:
1. Develops CAD policies, procedures, and guidelines: programs system;
designs develops, and assembles CAD Manuals; coordinates policies for teams
such as system layout, file naming and work procedures, communicates polices
to staff; updates procedures as necessary; reviews adherence to policies and
procedures and informs of deviations from company standards; assesses
problems and recommends solutions to CAD related issues.

2. Trains personnel on CAD tasks: performs initial CAD training for new
staff; provides ongoing assistance and guidance; designs individualized
training to meet employee specific needs; conducts refresher training
sessions; assists with performance evaluations on issues related to CAD
activities. Writes and maintains training documentation.

3. Coordinates CAD-related activities with consultants: informs others of
policy, procedure and menu changes; moderates disputes when information
between layers creates problems; participates in CAD-related decisions;
recommends solutions to problems; assists with CAD problems and questions.

4. Conducts CAD meetings: meets with team representatives; discusses how
things need to be done on the computer; works out potential solutions and
reviews applicability; discusses efficiency, potential step reductions and
procedure modifications; prioritizes concerns; summarizes meeting minutes
and distributes.
5. Assists with budgeting; reviews and negotiates software license
agreements.

6. Review network and systems diagnostics.

7. Coordinates and performs CAD systems maintenance: determines need for
hardware maintenance; set up work stations.

8. Maintains all computer hardware and software in office. This includes
servers, workstations, personal computers and plotter, printers, copiers and
phone system. Maintain local area network and communication equipment.

9. Investigates options for future upgrades: plans for future CAD stations
and network expansions; remains up-to-date with technical advances by
reading necessary technical magazines; tests new versions of the CAD
software.

10. Maintains system backup tapes and archive CD-ROM's of files removed
from the server.

11. Maintains full knowledge of system's capacity and operating features.
Message 13 of 23
jackshield
in reply to: rdmaliksi

its not "what" you do, its "who" you do that matters!
Message 14 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

Your CAD duties no matter how complicated or specialized, will ALWAYS play
second fiddle to your architectural abilities. I'm not cut out to be an
architect and the architect I work for is not cut out to be a CAD manager.
Some (like Dean, for example) don't think I should even ATTEMPT to be a CAD
manager. However, I'm the best that the architect is willing to pay for. I
do wish I had better programming education. I don't like to "just get by".
So, sometimes I spend hours upon hours trying to get what I want out of a
relatively long routine, when somebody else would have had it done in 20
minutes. Persistence pays off, however, and I must admit that I've done
some pretty good work. Much of the work I've done has been made meaningless
as new features become standard with the program. Boy, do I digress! Back
to your comment: An architect is NEVER going to pay a CAD guy as much as he
pays himself, no matter HOW much talent he has. But that's all the more
reason I do that much more for him. The more he makes because of the
productivity enhancements I create, the more I make. The more I am able to
do, the faster the money will flow.
--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


wrote in message news:5561166@discussion.autodesk.com...
Take all answers with a grain of salt. The term means whatever your employer
thinks it means, or whatever change of meaning you negotiate with them.
There is no established meaning for the term, and I've often thought that
this NG is poorly named.

My observation over the years is that most of the participants here are not
"managers" at all, in the normal sense of the word. IOW they don't hire,
fire, assign tasks, or handle personnel issues -- they aren't members of
management. They just happen to be the person in the firm most willing and
able to handle the design and maintenance of the CAD system, and (usually)
train and help the users.

In most cases the "CAD person" is a technical type -- that is, a
drafter/designer who is doing billable work most of the time. But they
happen to have this extra specialty in addition to their regular duties. My
job title, for instance, Is Senior Architect. I'm not a manager. I have
several special "overhead" type responsibilities, besides doing the same
bilable work as our designer/drafters. The CAD thing is only one of my
roles, and not the biggest one. I don't get any special title out of being
the CAD guy. Supporting one or two dozen CAD stations takes maybe 10% of my
time over the course of a year, less if there's no version change that year.

It's very uncommon, in my observation, for an actual departmental manager to
be the real "CAD dude." They have too many other responsibilities to handle
if they're responsible for a whole group of people. If you think you can
boot your manager out and take his job, go for it. But I doubt that you''ll
be doing any more CAD-geek stuff than he does, once you've stolen that job.

Your best bet might be to sell yourself as a "CAD specialist" and wrangle
for a pay raise or bonuses based on your record of production improvements.
Or go somewhere else with your dog and pony show. Most people don't
substantially improve themselves or change career tracks without changing
jobs.
Message 15 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

Actually, if you have enough people doing production, a CAD manager can be worth more than an architect.
You get a medium sized firm that lives and dies by customization, and that programmer becomes valuable.
I do feel that you can never properly automate what you cannot author.
If you cannot do the plans, you cannot create automation that is really top notch.
You can automate what the designers think they need, but will not be able to mold things to what your experience tells
you can be done.
Many times just being able to support and fix existing automation for new acad versions is enough though.

Bill DeShawn
|>Your CAD duties no matter how complicated or specialized, will ALWAYS play
|>second fiddle to your architectural abilities. I'm not cut out to be an
|>architect and the architect I work for is not cut out to be a CAD manager.
|>Some (like Dean, for example) don't think I should even ATTEMPT to be a CAD
|>manager. However, I'm the best that the architect is willing to pay for. I
|>do wish I had better programming education. I don't like to "just get by".
|>So, sometimes I spend hours upon hours trying to get what I want out of a
|>relatively long routine, when somebody else would have had it done in 20
|>minutes. Persistence pays off, however, and I must admit that I've done
|>some pretty good work. Much of the work I've done has been made meaningless
|>as new features become standard with the program. Boy, do I digress! Back
|>to your comment: An architect is NEVER going to pay a CAD guy as much as he
|>pays himself, no matter HOW much talent he has. But that's all the more
|>reason I do that much more for him. The more he makes because of the
|>productivity enhancements I create, the more I make. The more I am able to
|>do, the faster the money will flow.
James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - at - hunsaker - dotcom
Message 16 of 23
rdmaliksi
in reply to: rdmaliksi

Thanks so much for your inputs...if i will become one in the near future its because i learn a lot from you guys... thanks so much...all your inputs made me realize that i'm not that far from the future...

cheers
Message 17 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

I would make a small mod to one of james' comments: You can't properly
automate what you *don't understand*. I am not an engineer or architect but
I provide automation for both. The trick is in being able to
identify/understand the need in the way it is explained by an arch or eng.
That is not to say it wouldn't be a huge benefit to be able to author it -
sure would save me some time...

"James Maeding" wrote in message
news:5562761@discussion.autodesk.com...
Actually, if you have enough people doing production, a CAD manager can be
worth more than an architect.
You get a medium sized firm that lives and dies by customization, and that
programmer becomes valuable.
I do feel that you can never properly automate what you cannot author.
If you cannot do the plans, you cannot create automation that is really top
notch.
You can automate what the designers think they need, but will not be able to
mold things to what your experience tells
you can be done.
Many times just being able to support and fix existing automation for new
acad versions is enough though.

Bill DeShawn
|>Your CAD duties no matter how complicated or specialized, will ALWAYS play
|>second fiddle to your architectural abilities. I'm not cut out to be an
|>architect and the architect I work for is not cut out to be a CAD manager.
|>Some (like Dean, for example) don't think I should even ATTEMPT to be a
CAD
|>manager. However, I'm the best that the architect is willing to pay for.
I
|>do wish I had better programming education. I don't like to "just get
by".
|>So, sometimes I spend hours upon hours trying to get what I want out of a
|>relatively long routine, when somebody else would have had it done in 20
|>minutes. Persistence pays off, however, and I must admit that I've done
|>some pretty good work. Much of the work I've done has been made
meaningless
|>as new features become standard with the program. Boy, do I digress!
Back
|>to your comment: An architect is NEVER going to pay a CAD guy as much as
he
|>pays himself, no matter HOW much talent he has. But that's all the more
|>reason I do that much more for him. The more he makes because of the
|>productivity enhancements I create, the more I make. The more I am able
to
|>do, the faster the money will flow.
James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - at - hunsaker - dotcom
Message 18 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

My complete JD was posted in a previous thread. Look for "Job description
revamp" posted by SantaCAD 12/29/06 if you are interested in know what a
"Manger of Technical and Human Resources" does


wrote in message news:5560409@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi guys... Not a CAD manager yet... sorry to bug in on your Group. Though i
got a fair share of exposure to the world of CADD for the past 11 years...
Just wanderin what does a CAD manager really do on your company... im a
little confused about something... cant just budge it out here cause someone
might be reading...could anybody send me a description on what should be
dealt by a CAD Manager? his duties and responsibilities...not gonna steal
your job or anything...just wanna have an idea.

Thanks and More power to you guys...

rdmaliksi
rdm316@yahoo.com
Message 19 of 23
bthatcher
in reply to: rdmaliksi

"What do you Mean what do I do here? I talk to the customers so the Engineers don't have to."
Message 20 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: rdmaliksi

"I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people! Can't you
understand that?"


wrote in message news:5568881@discussion.autodesk.com...
"What do you Mean what do I do here? I talk to the customers so the
Engineers don't have to."

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