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Help needed - Sketch V6 & ACAD 2000

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Anonymous
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Help needed - Sketch V6 & ACAD 2000

Hello,

Looked through the classified section of the
Palm Beach Post today looking for a job.

Found:
1510D - DRAFTING Expd. in Autocad 2000 & furniture / cabinet working
drawings 868-7940
Palm Beach Post
02/17/2002

Would my V6.01 DWG R14 work with their AutoCAD 2000 and vice versa?

Gerhard
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Message 2 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

It should. The biggest problem that may occur is R14 had only 1 paper
space where the 2000 products have more then 200 layout spaces which
translate into paper space. Sop if they do any work on your drawing and
save any of the drawing in multiple paper spaces you would only be able
to see 1 of them, unless several layouts are saved and sent along.Also
they would have to save the drawing in a format you can read if you are
still using R14.

Gerhard Selzer wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Looked through the classified section of the
> Palm Beach Post today looking for a job.
>
> Found:
> 1510D - DRAFTING Expd. in Autocad 2000 & furniture / cabinet working
> drawings 868-7940
> Palm Beach Post
> 02/17/2002
>
> Would my V6.01 DWG R14 work with their AutoCAD 2000 and vice versa?
>
> Gerhard
Message 3 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

It depends. If they are looking for finished drawings or prints, you
might be able to use AS 6.01 and give them R14 files. There are a
several tricks to make them look and print OK.

If they want AutoCAD 2000 drawings you will need version 8, AutoCAD LT
or a different CAD program to produce the drawings.

If they want you to use their copy of AutoCAD 2000, you will need to
take an intensive training course to learn AutoCAD. Your experience
with AutoSketch will be of little help since the programs are completely
different.

If they want real 3D models you need to use AutoCAD or another full CAD
package that can do real 3D (not the AutoSketch fake 3D).

You may want to talk to the hiring manager to find out what he really
needs, not the HR person who only has the wish list of "requirements".
I got one of my jobs this way. After talking to the hiring manager at
an open house, he re-wrote the job spec so that it fit my experiences.
--
Len Rafuse
Vision Engineering


Gerhard Selzer wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Looked through the classified section of the
> Palm Beach Post today looking for a job.
>
> Found:
> 1510D - DRAFTING Expd. in Autocad 2000 & furniture / cabinet working
> drawings 868-7940
> Palm Beach Post
> 02/17/2002
>
> Would my V6.01 DWG R14 work with their AutoCAD 2000 and vice versa?
>
> Gerhard
Message 4 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Len,

Harvey was right yesterday when he told me you would have the
answer. Thanks!
You obviously know my limited skills but at least I have a better
idea about the possible options. Will give them a call and take
a chance to have them laugh about my 4 year old archaic system.

Thanks also to Dan.

Gerhard

"L. Rafuse" wrote:
>
> It depends. If they are looking for finished drawings or prints, you
> might be able to use AS 6.01 and give them R14 files. There are a
> several tricks to make them look and print OK.
>
> If they want AutoCAD 2000 drawings you will need version 8, AutoCAD LT
> or a different CAD program to produce the drawings.
>
> If they want you to use their copy of AutoCAD 2000, you will need to
> take an intensive training course to learn AutoCAD. Your experience
> with AutoSketch will be of little help since the programs are completely
> different.
>
> If they want real 3D models you need to use AutoCAD or another full CAD
> package that can do real 3D (not the AutoSketch fake 3D).
>
> You may want to talk to the hiring manager to find out what he really
> needs, not the HR person who only has the wish list of "requirements".
> I got one of my jobs this way. After talking to the hiring manager at
> an open house, he re-wrote the job spec so that it fit my experiences.
> --
> Len Rafuse
> Vision Engineering
>
> Gerhard Selzer wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Looked through the classified section of the
> > Palm Beach Post today looking for a job.
> >
> > Found:
> > 1510D - DRAFTING Expd. in Autocad 2000 & furniture / cabinet working
> > drawings 868-7940
> > Palm Beach Post
> > 02/17/2002
> >
> > Would my V6.01 DWG R14 work with their AutoCAD 2000 and vice versa?
> >
> > Gerhard
Message 5 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

To whom it may concern:

Friendly advice after a rude but not totally surprising awakening
as a lame excuse.

Use your AutoSketch for whatever personal use you intended it for.
If you ever have to look for a drafting job outside your kingdom,
don't even think that your simple AS CAD proficiency matters at all.
Every construction related firm, General and Sub-Contractors,
Architects, Engineers etc. are operating on some updated version of
AutoCAD and any AS experience is absolutely useless.
Len warned me 4 years ago, but it is same lesson as when and how
much to spend on insurance one "apparently" will never need anymore
as a septuagenarian.
Rejoice AutoDesk, AutoCAD reigns supreme here in Florida with only
two official AutoSketch users.

G

Gerhard Selzer wrote:
>
> Len,
>
> Harvey was right yesterday when he told me you would have the
> answer. Thanks!
> You obviously know my limited skills but at least I have a better
> idea about the possible options. Will give them a call and take
> a chance to have them laugh about my 4 year old archaic system.
>
> Thanks also to Dan.
>
> Gerhard
>
> "L. Rafuse" wrote:
> >
> > It depends. If they are looking for finished drawings or prints, you
> > might be able to use AS 6.01 and give them R14 files. There are a
> > several tricks to make them look and print OK.
> >
> > If they want AutoCAD 2000 drawings you will need version 8, AutoCAD LT
> > or a different CAD program to produce the drawings.
> >
> > If they want you to use their copy of AutoCAD 2000, you will need to
> > take an intensive training course to learn AutoCAD. Your experience
> > with AutoSketch will be of little help since the programs are completely
> > different.
> >
> > If they want real 3D models you need to use AutoCAD or another full CAD
> > package that can do real 3D (not the AutoSketch fake 3D).
> >
> > You may want to talk to the hiring manager to find out what he really
> > needs, not the HR person who only has the wish list of "requirements".
> > I got one of my jobs this way. After talking to the hiring manager at
> > an open house, he re-wrote the job spec so that it fit my experiences.
> > --
> > Len Rafuse
> > Vision Engineering
> >
> > Gerhard Selzer wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Looked through the classified section of the
> > > Palm Beach Post today looking for a job.
> > >
> > > Found:
> > > 1510D - DRAFTING Expd. in Autocad 2000 & furniture / cabinet working
> > > drawings 868-7940
> > > Palm Beach Post
> > > 02/17/2002
> > >
> > > Would my V6.01 DWG R14 work with their AutoCAD 2000 and vice versa?
> > >
> > > Gerhard
Message 6 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Gerhard,
All may not be lost.
I had to go to work for the local phone company, on prem, last year and use
AutoCAD LT to design telecommunication schematics. The learning curve was
not that great. However, I did have a copy to practice with at home. Scale
drawings in AutoCAD take more time to learn as compared to AS. Ordinarily, I
work out my home office and produce drawings in AS that my clients can open
in AutoCAD. There have been very few issues.
On another assignment with a company placing a fiber optic cable I also was
able to sneak a copy of AS into their office to do a lot of the work on
drawings for them before saving to .dwg. But then, I didn't really have
someone looking over my shoulder.
I would be willing to pay more for a closer merging of Autosketch and
AutoCAD in future editions. But if that doesn't happen and I plan on staying
in this business, I will have to make the painful switch.
John

"Gerhard Selzer" wrote in message
news:3C764356.51536982@bellsouth.net...
> To whom it may concern:
>
> Friendly advice after a rude but not totally surprising awakening
> as a lame excuse.
>
> Use your AutoSketch for whatever personal use you intended it for.
> If you ever have to look for a drafting job outside your kingdom,
> don't even think that your simple AS CAD proficiency matters at all.
> Every construction related firm, General and Sub-Contractors,
> Architects, Engineers etc. are operating on some updated version of
> AutoCAD and any AS experience is absolutely useless.
> Len warned me 4 years ago, but it is same lesson as when and how
> much to spend on insurance one "apparently" will never need anymore
> as a septuagenarian.
> Rejoice AutoDesk, AutoCAD reigns supreme here in Florida with only
> two official AutoSketch users.
>
> G
>
> Gerhard Selzer wrote:
> >
> > Len,
> >
> > Harvey was right yesterday when he told me you would have the
> > answer. Thanks!
> > You obviously know my limited skills but at least I have a better
> > idea about the possible options. Will give them a call and take
> > a chance to have them laugh about my 4 year old archaic system.
> >
> > Thanks also to Dan.
> >
> > Gerhard
> >
> > "L. Rafuse" wrote:
> > >
> > > It depends. If they are looking for finished drawings or prints, you
> > > might be able to use AS 6.01 and give them R14 files. There are a
> > > several tricks to make them look and print OK.
> > >
> > > If they want AutoCAD 2000 drawings you will need version 8, AutoCAD LT
> > > or a different CAD program to produce the drawings.
> > >
> > > If they want you to use their copy of AutoCAD 2000, you will need to
> > > take an intensive training course to learn AutoCAD. Your experience
> > > with AutoSketch will be of little help since the programs are
completely
> > > different.
> > >
> > > If they want real 3D models you need to use AutoCAD or another full
CAD
> > > package that can do real 3D (not the AutoSketch fake 3D).
> > >
> > > You may want to talk to the hiring manager to find out what he really
> > > needs, not the HR person who only has the wish list of "requirements".
> > > I got one of my jobs this way. After talking to the hiring manager at
> > > an open house, he re-wrote the job spec so that it fit my experiences.
> > > --
> > > Len Rafuse
> > > Vision Engineering
> > >
> > > Gerhard Selzer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Looked through the classified section of the
> > > > Palm Beach Post today looking for a job.
> > > >
> > > > Found:
> > > > 1510D - DRAFTING Expd. in Autocad 2000 & furniture / cabinet working
> > > > drawings 868-7940
> > > > Palm Beach Post
> > > > 02/17/2002
> > > >
> > > > Would my V6.01 DWG R14 work with their AutoCAD 2000 and vice versa?
> > > >
> > > > Gerhard
Message 7 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Gerhard,
My experience in this area has shown that "Autocad" means many things. to most
companies around here, when they ask if you have any experience in "AutoCad",
they really are simply asking if you have any "Cad" experience. In most cases,
the companies I have frequented and consulted with >have< a copy of "Autocad" in
the building, but many do not use it because of so many other options that lend
themselves much more useable, especially when any machining or fabrication is
necessary from the drawing(s).

ANY cad experience at all, means that you can certainly learn whichever they
use. AutoCad LT is not too difficult to latch on to. I have access to a copy but
never use it because of what I need a cad program to do. For what I need, Sketch
can do it much faster.

So, chin up, Show them some of your Sketch Work on Paper. After all, who could
tell the difference at that point. Any company who needs a new draftsman should
be able to swing $99 for Sketch as you make any transition to their in-house
program. Then again, if they only need a 2d application, AND, they see how fast
sketch can be, they just might wonder why they spent more than $99 to start with
!

The real problem I see is the future of Sketch. If V8 is the best they can do
after over two years, one may as well be examining ones options. All software
simply has to have some solid improvements in order to stay popular in the
market.

Somehow a new print job on the retail box, and Bitmap fills have not done it for
me. But I guess thats all you get for $99. (well, Ok, now v8 is $129......
Colored Ink must have jumped up in price)

Chris L

Gerhard Selzer wrote:

> To whom it may concern:
>
> Friendly advice after a rude but not totally surprising awakening
> as a lame excuse.
>
> Use your AutoSketch for whatever personal use you intended it for.
> If you ever have to look for a drafting job outside your kingdom,
> don't even think that your simple AS CAD proficiency matters at all.
> Every construction related firm, General and Sub-Contractors,
> Architects, Engineers etc. are operating on some updated version of
> AutoCAD and any AS experience is absolutely useless.
> Len warned me 4 years ago, but it is same lesson as when and how
> much to spend on insurance one "apparently" will never need anymore
> as a septuagenarian.
> Rejoice AutoDesk, AutoCAD reigns supreme here in Florida with only
> two official AutoSketch users.
>
> G
>
> Gerhard Selzer wrote:
> >
> > Len,
> >
> > Harvey was right yesterday when he told me you would have the
> > answer. Thanks!
> > You obviously know my limited skills but at least I have a better
> > idea about the possible options. Will give them a call and take
> > a chance to have them laugh about my 4 year old archaic system.
> >
> > Thanks also to Dan.
> >
> > Gerhard
> >
> > "L. Rafuse" wrote:
> > >
> > > It depends. If they are looking for finished drawings or prints, you
> > > might be able to use AS 6.01 and give them R14 files. There are a
> > > several tricks to make them look and print OK.
> > >
> > > If they want AutoCAD 2000 drawings you will need version 8, AutoCAD LT
> > > or a different CAD program to produce the drawings.
> > >
> > > If they want you to use their copy of AutoCAD 2000, you will need to
> > > take an intensive training course to learn AutoCAD. Your experience
> > > with AutoSketch will be of little help since the programs are completely
> > > different.
> > >
> > > If they want real 3D models you need to use AutoCAD or another full CAD
> > > package that can do real 3D (not the AutoSketch fake 3D).
> > >
> > > You may want to talk to the hiring manager to find out what he really
> > > needs, not the HR person who only has the wish list of "requirements".
> > > I got one of my jobs this way. After talking to the hiring manager at
> > > an open house, he re-wrote the job spec so that it fit my experiences.
> > > --
> > > Len Rafuse
> > > Vision Engineering
> > >
> > > Gerhard Selzer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Looked through the classified section of the
> > > > Palm Beach Post today looking for a job.
> > > >
> > > > Found:
> > > > 1510D - DRAFTING Expd. in Autocad 2000 & furniture / cabinet working
> > > > drawings 868-7940
> > > > Palm Beach Post
> > > > 02/17/2002
> > > >
> > > > Would my V6.01 DWG R14 work with their AutoCAD 2000 and vice versa?
> > > >
> > > > Gerhard
Message 8 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

John and Chris,

Thanks for the encouragement and advice.
Will give it another try, not fretting about the system I have but
using end results as the a measure of performance capability.

> I would be willing to pay more for a closer merging of Autosketch and
> AutoCAD in future editions.

I fully agree and even would pay more than you probably would.
I would even PAY for individual patches of items on the the wish list
all you and other pros (Ric, Len, Harvey, Håkon, Paul etc.) have
consistently mentioned again and again since I got started with AS V5.
Don't want to wait for V9, but then have no idea how their strategic
marketing concept and customer concern is formulated in the inner
chambers of AutoDesk.

Gerhard

John Ehman wrote:
>
> Gerhard,
> All may not be lost.
> I had to go to work for the local phone company, on prem, last year and use
> AutoCAD LT to design telecommunication schematics. The learning curve was
> not that great. However, I did have a copy to practice with at home. Scale
> drawings in AutoCAD take more time to learn as compared to AS. Ordinarily, I
> work out my home office and produce drawings in AS that my clients can open
> in AutoCAD. There have been very few issues.
> On another assignment with a company placing a fiber optic cable I also was
> able to sneak a copy of AS into their office to do a lot of the work on
> drawings for them before saving to .dwg. But then, I didn't really have
> someone looking over my shoulder.
> I would be willing to pay more for a closer merging of Autosketch and
> AutoCAD in future editions. But if that doesn't happen and I plan on staying
> in this business, I will have to make the painful switch.
> John
>
> "Gerhard Selzer" wrote in message
> news:3C764356.51536982@bellsouth.net...
> > To whom it may concern:
> >
> > Friendly advice after a rude but not totally surprising awakening
> > as a lame excuse.
> >
> > Use your AutoSketch for whatever personal use you intended it for.
> > If you ever have to look for a drafting job outside your kingdom,
> > don't even think that your simple AS CAD proficiency matters at all.
> > Every construction related firm, General and Sub-Contractors,
> > Architects, Engineers etc. are operating on some updated version of
> > AutoCAD and any AS experience is absolutely useless.
> > Len warned me 4 years ago, but it is same lesson as when and how
> > much to spend on insurance one "apparently" will never need anymore
> > as a septuagenarian.
> > Rejoice AutoDesk, AutoCAD reigns supreme here in Florida with only
> > two official AutoSketch users.
> >
> > G
> >
> > Gerhard Selzer wrote:
> > >
> > > Len,
> > >
> > > Harvey was right yesterday when he told me you would have the
> > > answer. Thanks!
> > > You obviously know my limited skills but at least I have a better
> > > idea about the possible options. Will give them a call and take
> > > a chance to have them laugh about my 4 year old archaic system.
> > >
> > > Thanks also to Dan.
> > >
> > > Gerhard
> > >
(snip)

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