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Message 1 of 61
Anonymous
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Autosketch 8.0

So when will AutoSketch 8 be released?

(It's already reference on AutoDesk support pages. Just search for
AutoSketch 😎

or

http://support.autodesk.com/enu/kdnview.asp?QueryText=autosketch&k2dockey=d%
3A%5Cesupport%5Cknowledgebase%5Chtml%5C100022%2Ehtm%40kdn&k2url=http%3A%2F%2
Fsupport01%2Eautodesk%2Ecom%2Fenu%2Fknowledgebase%2Fhtml%2F100022%2Ehtm
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Message 21 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hello

And, thanks for reminding me to update the book to V8. But there won't be
too much to add and I need to do some testing once the real version is
available but it should be in print for the next run.

However it does cover 7, so that will do most of the commands.

Paul

"Gerhard Selzer" wrote in message
news:3BFE8FBA.84A72BD@bellsouth.net...
> Len,
>
> Your reason is good enough for me.
>
> Had followed your previous suggestion, never got R7,
> stuck with my reliable R6.01 and Paul's HOAH bible.
>
> Really wanted to do something in the last two months to
> stimulate the economy and was prepared after three years
> to venture into treacherous waters but better wait now
> until Paul publishes his updated instructions on R8.
> Compared to you guys and Pros, I will always be an on
> advice dependent newbie but without any regrets.
>
> Gerhard
>
> "L. Rafuse" wrote:
> >
> > No. I did not recognize the commentors.
> >
> > Since there are no compelling new features to make me want to buy one to
try it, I will wait and see what complaints I hear in the newsgroup.
> >
> > --
> > Len Rafuse
> > Vision Engineering
> >
> > Gerhard Selzer wrote:
> >
> > >Len,
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >Read the promotional material and endorsements.
> > >Did not recognize any of those names as ever being
> > >helpful contributors to this discussion group as
> > >actual AutoSketch users.
> > >Is it to naive for me to assume that I and the others
> > >in this group as potential buyer would be much more
> > >influenced by an evaluation by you and the other pros
> > >in this group who have helped for many years by their
> > >advice to solve problems?
> > >Could AutoSketch not have sent you and, let's say ten
> > >others, complimentary copies of R8.0 and find possible
> > >bugs before the November release than go through another
> > >R7.0 dilemma again?
> > >Just a belated thought.
> > >
> > >Gerhard
> > >
Message 22 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

"Ric Norris" wrote in message
news:F618C94B1DDDFD3430B042CC460C2F76@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi Paul,

> Finally....Paul....why would we send a wish list to you...?? If YOUR
wishes
> haven't been granted, why would ours...?? And if they were granted, do we
> have to wait another 2 years....??...we have all been wishing for the last
> 18 months.
>


My only reason for this was to add any wishes that anybody else has to a
list of my own which will be sent to an interested person at Autodesk that
does not monitor this forum.

Paul
Message 23 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hello and Yes that is on the list, but tell me, would you be prepared to pay
more for the macro option?

Paul


"B Pike" wrote in message
news:7668890B0282F1489420BA8296B3CBE1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Paul
>
> Wishlist is
>
> MACROS, MACROS, MACROS. Just like Drafix used to have. Pleeeease.
>
> B Pike
>
> PS
>
> A few less bugs would be good also.
>
>
>
> "Paul Jackson" wrote in message
> news:8B82AC0EDC7F5CB3EA5806605A4F481F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Hello Ric
> >
> > I think users will find all of the bugs which were present in V7 have
been
> > fixed in 8. The bugs WERE of concern to Autodesk and this forum was
> > monitored for details but it would not have been proper to make
> > announcements on a news group as it would end up as battering ram
against
> > Autodesk.
> >
> > I do not work for Autodesk and I am probably going out on a limb making
> > these statements, but I do not want this thread to deteriorate with
> > hypothetical banter.
> >
> > Send your wish list to me and I might just know where to send it, along
> with
> > mine.
> >
> > Paul Jackson
> > Resolve Computing [Australia]
> >
> > "Ric Norris" wrote in message
> > news:B9F167DF98157E44E96702BB92F7D84D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Received my QuickCAD R8 evaluation copy from AutoDesk....thankyou.
> There
> > is
> > > nothing in
> > > there to convince my management to update 210 licences from QuickCAD
> > version
> > > 7.
> > >
> > > At least the NT registry issues have been fixed....and the User Guide
in
> > > .PDF format will be great for my training sessions with V7. The
> backward
> > > compatibility is also a fine feature....well, between 7 & 8
> > anyway....shame
> > > I have no reason to use 8.
> > >
> > > A real pity the line width issue hasn't been resolved....like I have
> said
> > > over & over again, the "Wish List" is a complete waste of time....!!!!
> > >
> > > Sorry.
> > >
> > > Ric Norris.
> > > http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "H. Alm" wrote in message
> > > news:03E00BE1F80279EB85BAABAEE6A0F085@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > So when will AutoSketch 8 be released?
> > > >
> > > > (It's already reference on AutoDesk support pages. Just search for
> > > > AutoSketch 😎
> > > >
> > > > or
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://support.autodesk.com/enu/kdnview.asp?QueryText=autosketch&k2dockey=d%
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
3A%5Cesupport%5Cknowledgebase%5Chtml%5C100022%2Ehtm%40kdn&k2url=http%3A%2F%2
> > > >
> Fsupport01%2Eautodesk%2Ecom%2Fenu%2Fknowledgebase%2Fhtml%2F100022%2Ehtm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 24 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Paul,

And then wait until Version 9...???....what am I missing here....???

Or are you saying that ADesk will actually bring out a patch to magically
make all our wishes appear after both QC/AS 8 hit the shelves....!!!???

I don't get it....!!!

Ric.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings/index.html


"Paul Jackson" wrote in message
news:945BD1D468BD1F43D2FDFCF30ABDBBFF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
>
> "Ric Norris" wrote in message
> news:F618C94B1DDDFD3430B042CC460C2F76@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Hi Paul,
>
> > Finally....Paul....why would we send a wish list to you...?? If YOUR
> wishes
> > haven't been granted, why would ours...?? And if they were granted, do
we
> > have to wait another 2 years....??...we have all been wishing for the
last
> > 18 months.
> >
>
>
> My only reason for this was to add any wishes that anybody else has to a
> list of my own which will be sent to an interested person at Autodesk that
> does not monitor this forum.
>
> Paul
>
>
Message 25 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Yes, I would.

Barry Pike

"Paul Jackson" wrote in message
news:873AC33B0D6FFEC2D16396AE7E2C33D1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hello and Yes that is on the list, but tell me, would you be prepared to
pay
> more for the macro option?
>
> Paul
>
>
> "B Pike" wrote in message
> news:7668890B0282F1489420BA8296B3CBE1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Paul
> >
> > Wishlist is
> >
> > MACROS, MACROS, MACROS. Just like Drafix used to have. Pleeeease.
> >
> > B Pike
> >
> > PS
> >
> > A few less bugs would be good also.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Paul Jackson" wrote in message
> > news:8B82AC0EDC7F5CB3EA5806605A4F481F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Hello Ric
> > >
> > > I think users will find all of the bugs which were present in V7 have
> been
> > > fixed in 8. The bugs WERE of concern to Autodesk and this forum was
> > > monitored for details but it would not have been proper to make
> > > announcements on a news group as it would end up as battering ram
> against
> > > Autodesk.
> > >
> > > I do not work for Autodesk and I am probably going out on a limb
making
> > > these statements, but I do not want this thread to deteriorate with
> > > hypothetical banter.
> > >
> > > Send your wish list to me and I might just know where to send it,
along
> > with
> > > mine.
> > >
> > > Paul Jackson
> > > Resolve Computing [Australia]
> > >
> > > "Ric Norris" wrote in message
> > > news:B9F167DF98157E44E96702BB92F7D84D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Received my QuickCAD R8 evaluation copy from AutoDesk....thankyou.
> > There
> > > is
> > > > nothing in
> > > > there to convince my management to update 210 licences from QuickCAD
> > > version
> > > > 7.
> > > >
> > > > At least the NT registry issues have been fixed....and the User
Guide
> in
> > > > .PDF format will be great for my training sessions with V7. The
> > backward
> > > > compatibility is also a fine feature....well, between 7 & 8
> > > anyway....shame
> > > > I have no reason to use 8.
> > > >
> > > > A real pity the line width issue hasn't been resolved....like I have
> > said
> > > > over & over again, the "Wish List" is a complete waste of
time....!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sorry.
> > > >
> > > > Ric Norris.
> > > > http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "H. Alm" wrote in message
> > > > news:03E00BE1F80279EB85BAABAEE6A0F085@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > So when will AutoSketch 8 be released?
> > > > >
> > > > > (It's already reference on AutoDesk support pages. Just search for
> > > > > AutoSketch 😎
> > > > >
> > > > > or
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://support.autodesk.com/enu/kdnview.asp?QueryText=autosketch&k2dockey=d%
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
3A%5Cesupport%5Cknowledgebase%5Chtml%5C100022%2Ehtm%40kdn&k2url=http%3A%2F%2
> > > > >
> > Fsupport01%2Eautodesk%2Ecom%2Fenu%2Fknowledgebase%2Fhtml%2F100022%2Ehtm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 26 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Ric

You are not missing anything, so please do not read more into my message
than is actually there.

I am offering to add any comments to my own, Just in case an opportunity
arises to get them to the right people, nothing more. Because I am a
retailer of this product, maybe one day someone asks a pertinent question
and i will be able to respond.

Paul

"Ric Norris" wrote in message
news:060371B7D88794208AAEACEB8FA6E72B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Paul,
>
> And then wait until Version 9...???....what am I missing here....???
>
> Or are you saying that ADesk will actually bring out a patch to magically
> make all our wishes appear after both QC/AS 8 hit the shelves....!!!???
>
> I don't get it....!!!
>
> Ric.
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings/index.html
>
>
> "Paul Jackson" wrote in message
> news:945BD1D468BD1F43D2FDFCF30ABDBBFF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> >
> > "Ric Norris" wrote in message
> > news:F618C94B1DDDFD3430B042CC460C2F76@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Hi Paul,
> >
> > > Finally....Paul....why would we send a wish list to you...?? If YOUR
> > wishes
> > > haven't been granted, why would ours...?? And if they were granted,
do
> we
> > > have to wait another 2 years....??...we have all been wishing for the
> last
> > > 18 months.
> > >
> >
> >
> > My only reason for this was to add any wishes that anybody else has to a
> > list of my own which will be sent to an interested person at Autodesk
that
> > does not monitor this forum.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
>
Message 27 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

The answer to that question is YES.

The more important question is will I pay any money for new version with
only minor changes and the hope of fixing bugs. The answer to that is NO.

--
Len Rafuse
Vision Engineering


Paul Jackson wrote:

>Hello and Yes that is on the list, but tell me, would you be prepared to pay
>more for the macro option?
>
>Paul
>
Message 28 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hey Paul,

I still don't get it.

You have been in a long time association with ADesk and it is NOW you are
offering some mystery link into their mystery world.

How come you didn't offer this so-called association 18 months ago...it's
far too late to be suggesting our "wishes" can be heard by the ADesk
"powers" that lurk around the QC/AS forum, particularly after the new
versions of both have just been released.

You may remember I sat next to you at an ADesk "gunslinger" a couple of
years back. None of my wishes, wished then & to an "official" ADesk
developer from the US have come to fruition....regardless of what software
we were trying out.....they didn't listen.

They never will. I sure as blazes ain't waiting another 2 years. Just as
well my main tool of trade is AutoCAD...(EDITED) shame I have to support 210
QuickCAD users.

Ric.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings


"Paul Jackson" wrote in message
news:7BC3827CA35D9100A1F5CF15BB8A1FA3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Ric
>
> You are not missing anything, so please do not read more into my message
> than is actually there.
>
> I am offering to add any comments to my own, Just in case an opportunity
> arises to get them to the right people, nothing more. Because I am a
> retailer of this product, maybe one day someone asks a pertinent question
> and i will be able to respond.
>
> Paul
>
Message 29 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hello Ric,

Let me ask you about the linewidth problem. How is this manifesting itself
so that you feel that it is not working? Please let me know the steps that
you are using and the results you expect.

GreigJ.

--
Greig Jones [autodesk product support]
"Ric Norris" wrote in message
news:B9F167DF98157E44E96702BB92F7D84D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Received my QuickCAD R8 evaluation copy from AutoDesk....thankyou. There
is
> nothing in
> there to convince my management to update 210 licences from QuickCAD
version
> 7.
>
> At least the NT registry issues have been fixed....and the User Guide in
> .PDF format will be great for my training sessions with V7. The backward
> compatibility is also a fine feature....well, between 7 & 8
anyway....shame
> I have no reason to use 8.
>
> A real pity the line width issue hasn't been resolved....like I have said
> over & over again, the "Wish List" is a complete waste of time....!!!!
>
> Sorry.
>
> Ric Norris.
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings/index.html
>
>
>
> "H. Alm" wrote in message
> news:03E00BE1F80279EB85BAABAEE6A0F085@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > So when will AutoSketch 8 be released?
> >
> > (It's already reference on AutoDesk support pages. Just search for
> > AutoSketch 😎
> >
> > or
> >
> >
>
http://support.autodesk.com/enu/kdnview.asp?QueryText=autosketch&k2dockey=d%
> >
>
3A%5Cesupport%5Cknowledgebase%5Chtml%5C100022%2Ehtm%40kdn&k2url=http%3A%2F%2
> > Fsupport01%2Eautodesk%2Ecom%2Fenu%2Fknowledgebase%2Fhtml%2F100022%2Ehtm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 30 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hello Ric,

Actually we do monitor this discussion group at Autodesk and we are
concerned about good customer relations. When the planning was made for
upgrading QuickCAD and AutoSketch, we did a database search for issues
arising from the discussion group and from calls placed to our product
support technicians. We came up with a top ten (actually top 12 plus
additional items that the core development team felt were worth correcting)
list of defects, suggestions, etc. Emphasis was placed on making the
programs work with the newest operating systems as well as adding features
and correcting defects.

The interface has been a very successful design, still very contemporary,
and most importantly, easy to learn and use which is an important factor for
many customers that do not wish to go thru a higher learning curve such as
would be the case with upgrading to AutoCAD LT or AutoCAD. Our customers are
varied on our Retail CAD products, from the most casual part time user right
on up to the big companies that use it. Our emphasis has always been ease of
use and an attractive low price while still providing the functionality that
entice the large companies to use it.

Regards,

GreigJ.

--
Greig Jones [autodesk product support]
"Ric Norris" wrote in message
news:F618C94B1DDDFD3430B042CC460C2F76@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi Paul,
>
> As you know, myself and many others have been making a "wish list" for the
> last 2 years.....wishes that STILL haven't been realised in QC R8. It is
> not hypothetical banter to say that nothing much has changed with the new
> release of QuickCAD...it is fact. Maybe a few bugs have been fixed and if
> it was of real "concern" to AutoDesk, they would have brought out some
kind
> of patch. And they have....QuickCAD R8....!!!!
>
> The interface is still the same....the same as Version 6....people would
> like to see a change, something different....otherwise it's
boring...seeing
> the same old, same old. There are no new bells & whistles.
>
> No-one from AutoDesk has listened through this forum and AUGI is a waste
of
> time...for a start you have to be member before you can review
> "wishes"....who wants to be a member of an organisation that doesn't
> listen..??
>
> As far I am concerned, QuickCAD R8 is nothing but a patch that ADesk
should
> have brought out 18 months ago...and a rather expensive patch at
> that....around A$100 from what I have been told. Mind you, it is great
> value for someone that doesn't know the history of QuickCAD and is new to
> the software. But that doesn't make the veteran users feel any good at
all.
>
> Finally....Paul....why would we send a wish list to you...?? If YOUR
wishes
> haven't been granted, why would ours...?? And if they were granted, do we
> have to wait another 2 years....??...we have all been wishing for the last
> 18 months.
>
> It will be interesting to see how different AS8 is to AS7....I haven't
> received my eval copy yet.
>
> Ric Norris.
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings/index.html
>
>
> "Paul Jackson" wrote in message
> news:8B82AC0EDC7F5CB3EA5806605A4F481F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Hello Ric
> >
> > I think users will find all of the bugs which were present in V7 have
been
> > fixed in 8. The bugs WERE of concern to Autodesk and this forum was
> > monitored for details but it would not have been proper to make
> > announcements on a news group as it would end up as battering ram
against
> > Autodesk.
> >
> > I do not work for Autodesk and I am probably going out on a limb making
> > these statements, but I do not want this thread to deteriorate with
> > hypothetical banter.
> >
> > Send your wish list to me and I might just know where to send it, along
> with
> > mine.
> >
> > Paul Jackson
> > Resolve Computing [Australia]
> >
> > "Ric Norris" wrote in message
> > news:B9F167DF98157E44E96702BB92F7D84D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Received my QuickCAD R8 evaluation copy from AutoDesk....thankyou.
> There
> > is
> > > nothing in
> > > there to convince my management to update 210 licences from QuickCAD
> > version
> > > 7.
> > >
> > > At least the NT registry issues have been fixed....and the User Guide
in
> > > .PDF format will be great for my training sessions with V7. The
> backward
> > > compatibility is also a fine feature....well, between 7 & 8
> > anyway....shame
> > > I have no reason to use 8.
> > >
> > > A real pity the line width issue hasn't been resolved....like I have
> said
> > > over & over again, the "Wish List" is a complete waste of time....!!!!
> > >
> > > Sorry.
> > >
> > > Ric Norris.
> > > http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "H. Alm" wrote in message
> > > news:03E00BE1F80279EB85BAABAEE6A0F085@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > So when will AutoSketch 8 be released?
> > > >
> > > > (It's already reference on AutoDesk support pages. Just search for
> > > > AutoSketch 😎
> > > >
> > > > or
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://support.autodesk.com/enu/kdnview.asp?QueryText=autosketch&k2dockey=d%
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
3A%5Cesupport%5Cknowledgebase%5Chtml%5C100022%2Ehtm%40kdn&k2url=http%3A%2F%2
> > > >
> Fsupport01%2Eautodesk%2Ecom%2Fenu%2Fknowledgebase%2Fhtml%2F100022%2Ehtm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 31 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Well, Good Morning GregJ !

I think within an hour of studying the group one could easily find numerous
complaints about line width. It's funny that it must NOT be one of the "12"
issues you fellows found in your search of "what's wrong with Sketch". Do not
get me wrong. I think Sketch is one of THE best 2d cad apps available, partially
because of its inexpense.

Line widths: Just think for a moment that there are 50, yes 50 different Line
"Styles" available, but ONLY 7 Line widths. Ok, I could live with
7............. BUT, we need to be able to set the width ourselves !!!!

You only offer two widths as far as I am concerned: Too Narrow and Too Wide !

Now, as long as we have AutoDesks attention: We need to be able to configure
what WE want for line thickness. Give us an .ini file or a .cfg file to edit.
Please don't just make more fixed ones available. I don't think I would enjoy a
drop down list of 50 different line widths......... It is already a pain for me
to rotate up and down between "dotted" or "dashed" and then back to "Solid" when
drawing.

Our best option would be to have FULL control of "Which and What" lines are
even displayed in the drop down boxes as well as their widths.


Here is my next BIG Wish. Do this: Open Sketch and draw a line anywhere. Now,
Select the "offset" command.

Did you notice how the "offset distance" input box on the edit bar automatically
highlighted itself ?? WONDERFUL !

DO THAT with ALL the other situations that are similar.

When I draw a line, make the LENGTH box auto highlight. Then I can simply TAB
key to the other relevant boxes.
When I draw a Circle, make the Radius (I would LOVE a Diameter box instead!) box
auto highlight.

Additionally, Auto Ortho techniques like the old Intergraph and Ashlar
techniques would be good, and I want to be able to trim to Splines. I am sure I
have a few more issues but they are minor. I could refresh my memory if
necessary.


Lastly, It would be a really good gesture to fix the issues Mid stream of V8 and
then we would ALL BUY IT !!
For now, we won't even recommend it..............

Thanks,

Chris Luebke
DATA-CUT

"Greig Jones [Autodesk Product Support]" wrote:

> Hello Ric,
>
> Let me ask you about the linewidth problem. How is this manifesting itself
> so that you feel that it is not working? Please let me know the steps that
> you are using and the results you expect.
>
> GreigJ.
>
> --
> Greig Jones [autodesk product support]
> "Ric Norris" wrote in message
> news:B9F167DF98157E44E96702BB92F7D84D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Received my QuickCAD R8 evaluation copy from AutoDesk....thankyou. There
> is
> > nothing in
> > there to convince my management to update 210 licences from QuickCAD
> version
> > 7.
> >
> > At least the NT registry issues have been fixed....and the User Guide in
> > .PDF format will be great for my training sessions with V7. The backward
> > compatibility is also a fine feature....well, between 7 & 8
> anyway....shame
> > I have no reason to use 8.
> >
> > A real pity the line width issue hasn't been resolved....like I have said
> > over & over again, the "Wish List" is a complete waste of time....!!!!
> >
> > Sorry.
> >
> > Ric Norris.
> > http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > "H. Alm" wrote in message
> > news:03E00BE1F80279EB85BAABAEE6A0F085@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > So when will AutoSketch 8 be released?
> > >
> > > (It's already reference on AutoDesk support pages. Just search for
> > > AutoSketch 😎
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://support.autodesk.com/enu/kdnview.asp?QueryText=autosketch&k2dockey=d%
> > >
> >
> 3A%5Cesupport%5Cknowledgebase%5Chtml%5C100022%2Ehtm%40kdn&k2url=http%3A%2F%2
> > > Fsupport01%2Eautodesk%2Ecom%2Fenu%2Fknowledgebase%2Fhtml%2F100022%2Ehtm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Message 32 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Could you tell us what those "12 items are ???

Chris L

"Greig Jones [Autodesk Product Support]" wrote:

> Hello Ric,
>
> Actually we do monitor this discussion group at Autodesk and we are
> concerned about good customer relations. When the planning was made for
> upgrading QuickCAD and AutoSketch, we did a database search for issues
> arising from the discussion group and from calls placed to our product
> support technicians. We came up with a top ten (actually top 12 plus
> additional items that the core development team felt were worth correcting)
> list of defects, suggestions, etc. Emphasis was placed on making the
> programs work with the newest operating systems as well as adding features
> and correcting defects.
>
> The interface has been a very successful design, still very contemporary,
> and most importantly, easy to learn and use which is an important factor for
> many customers that do not wish to go thru a higher learning curve such as
> would be the case with upgrading to AutoCAD LT or AutoCAD. Our customers are
> varied on our Retail CAD products, from the most casual part time user right
> on up to the big companies that use it. Our emphasis has always been ease of
> use and an attractive low price while still providing the functionality that
> entice the large companies to use it.
>
> Regards,
>
> GreigJ.
Message 33 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hi Greig,

I am responsible for the creation & management of a venue floorplan database
and to date have created and issued over 2500 drawings. AutoCAD LT is my
tool of trade and I do all my "mastering" using LT...I then convert them to
QuickCAD so our 210 national Technical Directors and Technical Event
Managers can easily use. The main reason we use LT to create the original
is just in case a few years down the track, QuickCAD no longer exists (for
example), we then have our .DWG masters in hopefully a current useable
format.

As you know, in LT, the user has the ability to control line weights by
assigning a colour. This works well.....I draw walls and doors in white and
then assign a line weight of .12....windows I draw in red and assign a line
weight of .01.....anything I wish to have a bit of grunt, I draw in blue and
assign a line weight of 3.0. I rarely use polylines.

When the final product is issued in QuickCAD, all I have are pretty
colours.....it is not possible for me to convert every line to a thickness
of 1 or 3 or 5 or whatever...and there is no way I can convert all lines to
polylines. Thus I have NO control over line weights in QuickCAD without
spending considerable time to do one of 2 things just mentioned.....it's
just not practical. Therefore all our QuickCAD drawings are issued with
just 1 line thickness.

There have been many people in both this and the QC Newsgroup that have
constantly been "wishing" for this issue to be rectified....and it is has
been ignored. I for one would like to know if it had been at least,
considered.

Ric Norris
http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings


"Greig Jones [Autodesk Product Support]"
wrote in message
news:49C8F4C6E82FF1E0644FF8DE4B7B953B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hello Ric,
>
> Let me ask you about the linewidth problem. How is this manifesting itself
> so that you feel that it is not working? Please let me know the steps that
> you are using and the results you expect.
>
> GreigJ.
>
> --
> Greig Jones [autodesk product support]
> "Ric Norris" wrote in message
> news:B9F167DF98157E44E96702BB92F7D84D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Received my QuickCAD R8 evaluation copy from AutoDesk....thankyou.
There
> is
> > nothing in
> > there to convince my management to update 210 licences from QuickCAD
> version
> > 7.
> >
> > At least the NT registry issues have been fixed....and the User Guide in
> > .PDF format will be great for my training sessions with V7. The
backward
> > compatibility is also a fine feature....well, between 7 & 8
> anyway....shame
> > I have no reason to use 8.
> >
> > A real pity the line width issue hasn't been resolved....like I have
said
> > over & over again, the "Wish List" is a complete waste of time....!!!!
> >
> > Sorry.
> >
> > Ric Norris.
> > http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings/index.html
Message 34 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

My experience was almost a disaster. I had a presentation to the board for
a facility layout project. The drawing looked great on the computer screen,
but when printed, the lines were very thin. I mean, so thin that it was not
readable in normal conference room lighting. When I selected the next line
width, the lines were so thick, it looked like I had tried to use the
drawing tool in my word processor! I changed the dpi setting all the way
down to 150 (HP ???) and it the lines looked darker but the text and bitmaps
print quality went south. I started using polylines and it does work much
better now.

Is there a problem with using polylines?? I noticed that my circles are not
polylines, so those are still thin.



"Greig Jones [Autodesk Product Support]"
wrote in message
news:49C8F4C6E82FF1E0644FF8DE4B7B953B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hello Ric,
>
> Let me ask you about the linewidth problem. How is this manifesting itself
> so that you feel that it is not working? Please let me know the steps that
> you are using and the results you expect.
>
> GreigJ.
>
> --
> Greig Jones [autodesk product support]
> "Ric Norris" wrote in message
> news:B9F167DF98157E44E96702BB92F7D84D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Received my QuickCAD R8 evaluation copy from AutoDesk....thankyou.
There
> is
> > nothing in
> > there to convince my management to update 210 licences from QuickCAD
> version
> > 7.
> >
> > At least the NT registry issues have been fixed....and the User Guide in
> > .PDF format will be great for my training sessions with V7. The
backward
> > compatibility is also a fine feature....well, between 7 & 8
> anyway....shame
> > I have no reason to use 8.
> >
> > A real pity the line width issue hasn't been resolved....like I have
said
> > over & over again, the "Wish List" is a complete waste of time....!!!!
> >
> > Sorry.
> >
> > Ric Norris.
> > http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > "H. Alm" wrote in message
> > news:03E00BE1F80279EB85BAABAEE6A0F085@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > So when will AutoSketch 8 be released?
> > >
> > > (It's already reference on AutoDesk support pages. Just search for
> > > AutoSketch 😎
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://support.autodesk.com/enu/kdnview.asp?QueryText=autosketch&k2dockey=d%
> > >
> >
>
3A%5Cesupport%5Cknowledgebase%5Chtml%5C100022%2Ehtm%40kdn&k2url=http%3A%2F%2
> > >
Fsupport01%2Eautodesk%2Ecom%2Fenu%2Fknowledgebase%2Fhtml%2F100022%2Ehtm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 35 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Ric Norris wrote:

>As you know, in LT, the user has the ability to control line weights by
>assigning a color. This works well.....I draw walls and doors in white and
>then assign a line weight of .12....windows I draw in red and assign a line
>weight of .01.....anything I wish to have a bit of grunt, I draw in blue and
>assign a line weight of 3.0. I rarely use polylines.
>
As someone who did not grow up with the older CAD packages, using colors
to signify line weights seems like a work around an old problem that
AutoDesk choose not to fix because someone thought of a work around.
Using colors for line weights means you cannot use them for anything else.

Why can't regular lines have real line widths of any size that print and
transfer? This way they will also display on the screen the same as it
prints (WYSIWYG any one).

Why are there lines and polylines? Why don't we have just lines that
can be set to any widths we want?

Too many question...

--
Len Rafuse
Vision Engineering
Message 36 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Tim Smith wrote:

>My experience was almost a disaster. I had a presentation to the board for
>a facility layout project. The drawing looked great on the computer screen,
>but when printed, the lines were very thin. I mean, so thin that it was not
>readable in normal conference room lighting. When I selected the next line
>width, the lines were so thick, it looked like I had tried to use the
>drawing tool in my word processor! I changed the dpi setting all the way
>down to 150 (HP ???) and it the lines looked darker but the text and bitmaps
>print quality went south. I started using polylines and it does work much
>better now.
>
This is part of the reason I use polylines.

>
>
>Is there a problem with using polylines??
>
None that I know

>I noticed that my circles are not
>polylines, so those are still thin.
>
Explode them and then set the line width up.

For text, I use an Arial font that shows up well. CAD fonts look terrible.

--
Len Rafuse
Vision Engineering
Message 37 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hey Len,

Don't (EDITED) on my parade...!!!

You're one of the many who have been complaining about this issue for many
years now. Please provide something more constructive.

ADesk is "listening".....as we have been told.

Ric. Norris.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings


"L. Rafuse" wrote in message
news:3C04CD6F.8080006@wn.net...
>
>
> Ric Norris wrote:
>
> >As you know, in LT, the user has the ability to control line weights by
> >assigning a color. This works well.....I draw walls and doors in white
and
> >then assign a line weight of .12....windows I draw in red and assign a
line
> >weight of .01.....anything I wish to have a bit of grunt, I draw in blue
and
> >assign a line weight of 3.0. I rarely use polylines.
> >
> As someone who did not grow up with the older CAD packages, using colors
> to signify line weights seems like a work around an old problem that
> AutoDesk choose not to fix because someone thought of a work around.
> Using colors for line weights means you cannot use them for anything
else.
>
> Why can't regular lines have real line widths of any size that print and
> transfer? This way they will also display on the screen the same as it
> prints (WYSIWYG any one).
>
> Why are there lines and polylines? Why don't we have just lines that
> can be set to any widths we want?
>
> Too many question...
>
> --
> Len Rafuse
> Vision Engineering
>
>
>
Message 38 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I too do not like all the different variations of Lines.

I learned to draw with a modern Cad program. Lines were Lines were Lines. Cut,
Trim, do what ever you want. The Explode concept did not exist. Just Group and
Ungroup.

I have noticed that there are times when you have to "Convert" an arc to
something. What for ?

I don't understand who really needs the variation as long as you can do what you
want with widths and colors.

In Rics case, I think he is just telling you that he can "Zing" thru a drawing
much faster when he keeps all of a particular group of items in one color. Then
it is easy to select that color to assign a width or modify.

Colors also have a pretty good use when your cad program is combined with some
forms of Engraving, Routing and Plotting. So it is good that one can assign a
width to a color.

If Adesk just lets us assign widths WE Want...... It should help everyones
problem. But, they should take into consideration that if they offer DWG
compatability, Then bringing in a true .dwg drawing needs to display and print
the same as it did in the native program. Especially when it comes from their
program. I'd expect different if one was using a non ADesk product..............


Chris L

Len wrote:

> Ric Norris wrote:
>
> >As you know, in LT, the user has the ability to control line weights by
> >assigning a color. This works well.....I draw walls and doors in white and
> >then assign a line weight of .12....windows I draw in red and assign a line
> >weight of .01.....anything I wish to have a bit of grunt, I draw in blue and
> >assign a line weight of 3.0. I rarely use polylines.
> >
> As someone who did not grow up with the older CAD packages, using colors
> to signify line weights seems like a work around an old problem that
> AutoDesk choose not to fix because someone thought of a work around.
> Using colors for line weights means you cannot use them for anything else.
>
> Why can't regular lines have real line widths of any size that print and
> transfer? This way they will also display on the screen the same as it
> prints (WYSIWYG any one).
>
> Why are there lines and polylines? Why don't we have just lines that
> can be set to any widths we want?
>
> Too many question...
>
> --
> Len Rafuse
> Vision Engineering
Message 39 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Ric Norris wrote:

   >Hey Len,
   >
   >Don't (EDITED) on my parade...!!!
   >
   >You're one of the many who have been complaining about this issue for
many
   >years now. Please provide something more constructive.
   >
   >ADesk is "listening".....as we have been told.
   >
   >Ric. Norris.
   >http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings
   >

This is constructive.

There is an underlying line weight selection-plot problem that should be
fixed rather than worked around. In AutoCAD they long ago chose a work
around rather than fixing the underlying problem.

Users should be able to draw exactly as it will plot. As bad as Word
is, I do not have to make any text that I want to be bold blue and then
assign blue as a thicker line weight. No I just make it bold and it
appears bold on the screen and it prints bold.

If they want to have a color-pen weight table and fix the line weight
selection-print issue, then everyone can be happy.

Do you think they are listening with their good ear today?

--
Len Rafuse
Vision Engineering
Message 40 of 61
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Chris,

Hope Greig will be generous and make it a baker's dozen
to cheer you up.
As soon as you receive them, will you let us know if they
were fudge filled doughnuts or the ones with holes?

Gerhard 😉


CL wrote:
>
> Could you tell us what those "12 items are ???
>
> Chris L
>
> "Greig Jones [Autodesk Product Support]" wrote:
>
> > Hello Ric,
> >
> > Actually we do monitor this discussion group at Autodesk and we are
> > concerned about good customer relations. When the planning was made for
> > upgrading QuickCAD and AutoSketch, we did a database search for issues
> > arising from the discussion group and from calls placed to our product
> > support technicians. We came up with a top ten (actually top 12 plus
> > additional items that the core development team felt were worth correcting)
> > list of defects, suggestions, etc. Emphasis was placed on making the
> > programs work with the newest operating systems as well as adding features
> > and correcting defects.
> >
> > The interface has been a very successful design, still very contemporary,
> > and most importantly, easy to learn and use which is an important factor for
> > many customers that do not wish to go thru a higher learning curve such as
> > would be the case with upgrading to AutoCAD LT or AutoCAD. Our customers are
> > varied on our Retail CAD products, from the most casual part time user right
> > on up to the big companies that use it. Our emphasis has always been ease of
> > use and an attractive low price while still providing the functionality that
> > entice the large companies to use it.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > GreigJ.

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